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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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Agree 100%. It would be a tremendous step backwards with little chance to survive. ONE coach left this miserable Loser university for another job. He presently is having reasonable success, but that university has him on a short leash.

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Your schtick is tired. It's not Baylor, it's Dave.

Baylor pays well, is located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country and has a recent history of success most of our conference peers would kill for.

That Dave can't capitalize on those things doesn't mean a good coach couldn't.

We just need to finalize the divorce and find a better coach.

bear2be2 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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Agree 100%. It would be a tremendous step backwards with little chance to survive. ONE coach left this miserable Loser university for another job. He presently is having reasonable success, but that university has him on a short leash.

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Your schtick is tired. It's not Baylor, it's Dave.

Baylor pays well, is located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country and has a recent history of success most of our conference peers would kill for.

That Dave can't capitalize on those things doesn't mean a good coach couldn't.

We just need to finalize the divorce and find a better coach.

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Sounds reasonable, I'll give you that; however, looking back over 60+ years with the occasional "15 minutes of fame", the Administration's history AND investment I'm just almost completely burned out.

BBWCBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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Agree 100%. It would be a tremendous step backwards with little chance to survive. ONE coach left this miserable Loser university for another job. He presently is having reasonable success, but that university has him on a short leash.

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Your schtick is tired. It's not Baylor, it's Dave.

Baylor pays well, is located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country and has a recent history of success most of our conference peers would kill for.

That Dave can't capitalize on those things doesn't mean a good coach couldn't.

We just need to finalize the divorce and find a better coach.

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Sounds reasonable, I'll give you that; however, looking back over 60+ years with the occasional "15 minutes of fame", the Administration's history AND investment I'm just almost completely burned out.

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The investment level from the Beall, Teaff, Reedy, Roberts and Steele years isn't what the current reality.

Since the Morriss era, we've committed the resources necessary to win, and all three of the coaches that followed Morriss did at a high level for at least one season. The problem is that we've learned these last three years that 2021 had more to do with the residual culture and talent leftover from the Rhule years than anything Dave was doing. And once those fingerprints were wiped away, and Dave's influence was the only one on our program, he's been exposed for what he is.

That's not on Baylor, that's on Dave. Go hire a more qualified replacement and get back to fulfilling this program's substantial potential.

bear2be2 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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Agree 100%. It would be a tremendous step backwards with little chance to survive. ONE coach left this miserable Loser university for another job. He presently is having reasonable success, but that university has him on a short leash.

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Your schtick is tired. It's not Baylor, it's Dave.

Baylor pays well, is located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country and has a recent history of success most of our conference peers would kill for.

That Dave can't capitalize on those things doesn't mean a good coach couldn't.

We just need to finalize the divorce and find a better coach.

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Sounds reasonable, I'll give you that; however, looking back over 60+ years with the occasional "15 minutes of fame", the Administration's history AND investment I'm just almost completely burned out.

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The investment level from the Beall, Teaff, Reedy, Roberts and Steele years isn't what the current reality.

Since the Morriss era, we've committed the resources necessary to win, and all three of the coaches that followed Morriss did at a high level for at least one season. The problem is that we've learned these last three years that 2021 had more to do with the residual culture and talent leftover from the Rhule years than anything Dave was doing. And once those fingerprints were wiped away, and Dave's influence was the only one on our program, he's been exposed for what he is.

That's not on Baylor, that's on Dave. Go hire a more qualified replacement and get back to fulfilling this program's substantial potential.

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Gust Avrakotos

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PartyBear said:

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As I said the disinfo would start flying. Maybe McGuire is one of the legends of college football and you and maybe only a few can see others can see it now and I'm counting Tech people as well. I doubt it though.

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No one said he was a legend. But he's a hell of a lot better than Aranda's sorry ass. The winning percentage says it, and so will the head-to-head record soon.

We hired a ****ing clown ... and you continue to support him as he does his best Titan submersible impression with our program.

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CDA has dirt on PB or something, or PB is sleeping with a staffer. His excuse making for CDA is up there with the best of politicians.

bear2be2 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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Agree 100%. It would be a tremendous step backwards with little chance to survive. ONE coach left this miserable Loser university for another job. He presently is having reasonable success, but that university has him on a short leash.

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Your schtick is tired. It's not Baylor, it's Dave.

Baylor pays well, is located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country and has a recent history of success most of our conference peers would kill for.

That Dave can't capitalize on those things doesn't mean a good coach couldn't.

We just need to finalize the divorce and find a better coach.

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Spot on.

He can't head-coach. It's completely obvious so why is anyone pretending otherwise? It's clinical psychosis.

It's clear to any objective watcher that CDA cannot head-coach. He just doesn't get it. His brain is not wired for the head-coach role. While Mack was making excuses these last two years for him, CDA's cratered the program from where it was headed.

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muddybrazos said:

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is a pretty good team. We kept the wrong coach. I knew the day we let James Blanchard walk that we made a mistake. Joey was the guy that we shoulda kept to keep the Rhule culture. Mack screwed this one up.

And ya they almost lost to ACU but theyre a decent team.

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And our idiot AD seems to be OK with it.

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it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it

Texas Tech is the only team in the nation with four wins vs. opponents that currently have a winning record.

— Cody Kellner (@cody_kellner) October 6, 2024

Arizona is West Texas 📍 pic.twitter.com/5VdhV49FWe

— Texas Tech Football (@TexasTechFB) October 6, 2024

They won those games ugly, but won nonetheless.

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They won those games ugly, but won nonetheless.

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Yep...I don't think in the end they will be one of the top B12 teams. I don't see them competing for the conference title this year....but that was a nice road win last night.

Lubbock is going to whip our butt. I can reasonably see this being our biggest margin to date this season. I'd be more concerned about preventing injuries. This could be a 30-35 point gap. They need to win to make a statement.
They're unranked but they are 3-0 in Big12 And they've scored about 80 more points than us this season despite having a much harder schedule.

Killing Floor said:

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Lubbock is going to whip our butt. I can reasonably see this being our biggest margin to date this season. I'd be more concerned about preventing injuries. This could be a 30-35 point gap. They need to win to make a statement.
They're unranked but they are 3-0 in Big12 And they've scored about 80 more points than us this season despite having a much harder schedule.

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Their remaining schedule is prime for getting to the conference championship.

Bobsyouruncle said:

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They won those games ugly, but won nonetheless.

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I'll take 12 ugly wins every year. Heck, say they gave it to us. Doesn't matter to me.

Beats the heck over having promising losses where the 'team is really close'.

I agree with you. Furthermore, Joey's teams seem to get better as the season goes on. If that continues, he just might do the impossible.

Killing Floor said:

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Lubbock is going to whip our butt. I can reasonably see this being our biggest margin to date this season. I'd be more concerned about preventing injuries. This could be a 30-35 point gap. They need to win to make a statement.
They're unranked but they are 3-0 in Big12 And they've scored about 80 more points than us this season despite having a much harder schedule.

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Much harder schedule by what metric?

Pretty much every computer model has our strength of schedule ranked substantially higher.

We're 42 spots higher in ESPN's FPI, we're 20 spots higher in Massey, we're 28 spots higher in Sagarin, etc.

We suck, but that doesn't mean we need to start making stuff up.

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I agree with you. Furthermore, Joey's teams seem to get better as the season goes on. If that continues, he just might do the impossible.

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The other thing I'll give Joey is that he learns from his mistakes.

He punted last night on a fourth-and-1 from his own end in a spot that he would have definitely gone for it in the past.

His defense held up well enough to keep them in it and their offense finally got going again late in the fourth quarter to pull it out.

If they had gone for it and not gotten it in that spot, they probably lose.

Man I think we're going to get some serious payback for the years of lame a** pizza delivery jokes. Its hard enough to win in Lubbock when with a good team and a real coach.

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Man I think we're going to get some serious payback for the years of lame a** pizza delivery jokes. Its hard enough to win in Lubbock when with a good team and a real coach.

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Tech isn't that good this year. They're beating mediocre teams by one score in most cases. But unlike us, they have shored up their biggest weaknesses since the start of the season and they know how to win close games.

If we haven't completely quit, which is a real threat after the last three games, I think this will likely be another close loss.

But this underscores what I believe to be the most frustrating part of rooting for a Dave Aranda-coached team. That's watching those around us improve while we stay mired in a soupy suck stasis.

Objectively speaking, we were a better football team than Tech after two weeks. Today, that's not even remotely true. They've improved dramatically on the defensive side and continue to get more efficient with what they do offensively, while we continue down the same sorry path. It's infuriating.

Tech is no more talented than we are this year. And they're almost certainly going to beat us next week.

Joey is a good headcoach. He may not end up being great, but he's clearly growing into the role.

CDA is not headcoach material. Tech got the better deal.

There's a reason why we're not afraid of anyone poaching CDA, because nobody wants him, outside of a DC role.

The charade just needs to stop.

Texas Tech receiving less votes than the team they just beat and have a better record than is interesting pic.twitter.com/rjXySLx93J

— lil tumbleweed (@codyanderson84) October 6, 2024

you know things are bad in your program when years later your fans lament that out of two coaches with zero college head coaching experience, you hired the wrong one

boykin_spaniel said:

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Joey is still an unknown and how he'd do as Baylor HC is pure speculation. We lose to him next Saturday like we did to ISU and idk who will be leading our sideline for homecoming.

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On the contrary, Joey was only an unknown as a college football coach, but he ran a very successful program at the top level of Texas football. And before you start telling me one cannot base a decision to hire a college football coach on the same coach's high school record, then I will ask you to explain the hiring and results of coaches like Urban Meyer, Chip Kelley, Tommy Tuberville, and Gus Malzahn.

Being better than Aranda is a low bar. He's definitely better than Aranda.

PartyBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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We a lot more going for us over all than Tech I believe.

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I am curious about that comment. What do we have going for us over Tech, ISU, KU, etc... I hear that constantly, but as someone who doesn't live in Texas I don't get it. I don't see the "assets" we have besides a nice Stadium.

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th said:

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you know things are bad in your program when years later your fans lament that out of two coaches with zero college head coaching experience, you hired the wrong one

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Well...the guy we hired had zero head coaching experience.

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exactly

which means the guy making the hiring decisions needs to be shown the door and our next hire needs to be a proven program builder not riding off the coattails of someone else

PartyBear said:

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I think y'all have McGuire and Tech way overrated. If we have an opening, we should not be reaching out to McGuire and I do not think we would. I know this will upset the McGuire off shoot of Rhule's cult followers here and the attacks and disinfo will flow.

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Baylor has been beaten by 3 ranked (in Top 25) teams plus Colorado. Joeys 13th Graders have not even played a ranked team this year.

FLBear5630 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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We a lot more going for us over all than Tech I believe.

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I am curious about that comment. What do we have going for us over Tech, ISU, KU, etc... I hear that constantly, but as someone who doesn't live in Texas I don't get it. I don't see the "assets" we have besides a nice Stadium.

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Waco is a much better location than Lubbock. Lubbock is really isolated from the rest of the state. Five hours from everywhere that's not West Texas.

Pizza Delivery 45
Person Over Player 17

I feel a Tech offensive explosion against Davey's defense. Might put up 55 points or so.

bear2be2 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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We a lot more going for us over all than Tech I believe.

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I am curious about that comment. What do we have going for us over Tech, ISU, KU, etc... I hear that constantly, but as someone who doesn't live in Texas I don't get it. I don't see the "assets" we have besides a nice Stadium.

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Waco is a much better location than Lubbock. Lubbock is really isolated from the rest of the state. Five hours from everywhere that's not West Texas.

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Got you. I did live in Amarillo for 2 years. Panhandle has its charm. We enjoyed it. But, I do get what your saying. I probably give Tech too much credit as a school.

FLBear5630 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Nobody is leaving Tech to coach Baylor in the current environment.

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We a lot more going for us over all than Tech I believe.

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I am curious about that comment. What do we have going for us over Tech, ISU, KU, etc... I hear that constantly, but as someone who doesn't live in Texas I don't get it. I don't see the "assets" we have besides a nice Stadium.

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Waco is a much better location than Lubbock. Lubbock is really isolated from the rest of the state. Five hours from everywhere that's not West Texas.

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Got you. I did live in Amarillo for 2 years. Panhandle has its charm. We enjoyed it. But, I do get what your saying. I probably give Tech too much credit as a school.

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I don't mind Lubbock -- other than the smell. I live in Abilene and really like West Texas. But it's a better place for families than it is for college age men.

And if you're from a major metro area, it really takes some getting used to.

Hear you. But my day to day life was better in Amarillo than anywhere else. It is just in the edge of the world