IowaBear said:

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I only know of 2 that were officially charged. Tevin Elliott and Sam U.. who never even played a down for BU

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Shawn Oakman was charged, tried, and acquitted.

Should have worded it better l. I meant 2 found guilty in court. The Oakman and Chafin cases were clear money grab attempts

I always found it amazing that Art coached successfully at UH for 6 years and not a peep or hint of any impropriety.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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I always found it amazing that Art coached successfully at UH for 6 years and not a peep or hint of any impropriety.

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Briles death sentence was beating Texas and OU on a regular basis. We should have all figured out sooner that this would not be tolerated. The Baylor Board of Regents put us back in our rightful place. Still trying to figure out who "influenced" them. Their lack of loyalty destroyed mine when it comes to Baylor Football.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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I always found it amazing that Art coached successfully at UH for 6 years and not a peep or hint of any impropriety.

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Briles death sentence was beating Texas and OU on a regular basis. We should have all figured out sooner that this would not be tolerated. The Baylor Board of Regents put us back in our rightful place. Still trying to figure out who "influenced" them. Their lack of loyalty destroyed mine when it comes to Baylor Football.

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BOOM goes the dynamite.

PartyBear said:

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Can we just acknowledge and agree that our alma mater ranks about number one in the nation in assholishness? What is the harm in the invite? It would have been meaningless as surely they knew he would politely say he has another engagement and leave it at that.

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I think Baylor knows it would create controversy and Briles would get a 10 minute standing ovation. The BOR's do not want that.

chorne68 said:

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He was paid $15,000,000 to be the scapegoat of our Board of Regents. If he had done anything wrong, he would not have been paid a cent. This move by the university was and will always be the biggest mistake ever made. He should have a statue in the stadium that he and RGIII built.

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On the flip side, if Briles didn't do anything wrong, he wouldn't have accepted $15 million in exchange for tarnishing his name. He would have easily made $15 million in about 3 years while coaching at the college level and now he can't even get a job with a minor league team.

It's pretty remarkable how binary some people think about this. Some people are in the boat that it's all Briles fault and some are in the boat that it's all the BoR's fault, but the reality is that it was somewhere in the middle. There were things happening with Briles that we would have been critical of if he was the coach of UT or aggy, And there were things that the BoR was letting happen and pretending wasn't happening in the hopes of ignoring the problems would make them go away. The bottom line is Briles was in charge of the program that brought all of this to light. If it was the basketball program, then Drew would have been let go. If it was the WBB program, then Mulkey would have been let go. But it was the football program. He let things get out of hand. And yes, part of it was the policy that Baylor/BoR had in place, but Briles was a willing participant.

I understand the frustration and lack of accountability with the BoR with the whole situation, but that's the reason we have boards. Unless there is specific wrong-doing by a specific BoR member, it is not very common for members of a board to be individually attacked in these situations.

Briles did not know the $18M was in exchange for his career. It's obvious he thought he could move on in coaching. He tried, but the social media lynch mob cowed the potential employers each time, assisted by the smear job our own regents executed with the WSJ.

I don't think Briles was a choir boy by any stretch. But I think he and the program could've been saved and the university would've suffered way less PR damage if our board had handled this competently.

contrario said:

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chorne68 said:

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He was paid $15,000,000 to be the scapegoat of our Board of Regents. If he had done anything wrong, he would not have been paid a cent. This move by the university was and will always be the biggest mistake ever made. He should have a statue in the stadium that he and RGIII built.

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On the flip side, if Briles didn't do anything wrong, he wouldn't have accepted $15 million in exchange for tarnishing his name. He would have easily made $15 million in about 3 years while coaching at the college level and now he can't even get a job with a minor league team.

It's pretty remarkable how binary some people think about this. Some people are in the boat that it's all Briles fault and some are in the boat that it's all the BoR's fault, but the reality is that it was somewhere in the middle. There were things happening with Briles that we would have been critical of if he was the coach of UT or aggy, And there were things that the BoR was letting happen and pretending wasn't happening in the hopes of ignoring the problems would make them go away. The bottom line is Briles was in charge of the program that brought all of this to light. If it was the basketball program, then Drew would have been let go. If it was the WBB program, then Mulkey would have been let go. But it was the football program. He let things get out of hand. And yes, part of it was the policy that Baylor/BoR had in place, but Briles was a willing participant.

I understand the frustration and lack of accountability with the BoR with the whole situation, but that's the reason we have boards. Unless there is specific wrong-doing by a specific BoR member, it is not very common for members of a board to be individually attacked in these situations.

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So if your company was coming down on you and offered you 15mm or more to go away, you would say no, I am going to fight it and risk getting nothing? That would be a pretty dumb move.

contrario said:

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chorne68 said:

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He was paid $15,000,000 to be the scapegoat of our Board of Regents. If he had done anything wrong, he would not have been paid a cent. This move by the university was and will always be the biggest mistake ever made. He should have a statue in the stadium that he and RGIII built.

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On the flip side, if Briles didn't do anything wrong, he wouldn't have accepted $15 million in exchange for tarnishing his name. He would have easily made $15 million in about 3 years while coaching at the college level and now he can't even get a job with a minor league team.

It's pretty remarkable how binary some people think about this. Some people are in the boat that it's all Briles fault and some are in the boat that it's all the BoR's fault, but the reality is that it was somewhere in the middle. There were things happening with Briles that we would have been critical of if he was the coach of UT or aggy, And there were things that the BoR was letting happen and pretending wasn't happening in the hopes of ignoring the problems would make them go away. The bottom line is Briles was in charge of the program that brought all of this to light. If it was the basketball program, then Drew would have been let go. If it was the WBB program, then Mulkey would have been let go. But it was the football program. He let things get out of hand. And yes, part of it was the policy that Baylor/BoR had in place, but Briles was a willing participant.

I understand the frustration and lack of accountability with the BoR with the whole situation, but that's the reason we have boards. Unless there is specific wrong-doing by a specific BoR member, it is not very common for members of a board to be individually attacked in these situations.

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nobody knows what they would do in a given situation when the rug is pulled out from underneath you.

If it is "somewhere in the middle" then scouring text messages may have found something that BU would stretch into "with cause" and he get nothing. Your suggesting he should have made an all or nothing decision. That's stupid when you're talking about generational money.

So you're saying if he hadn't taken the settlement (buyout) that meant he could get another job? What in the world makes you think that?

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Robert Wilson said:

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Briles did not know the $18M was in exchange for his career. It's obvious he thought he could move on in coaching. He tried, but the social media lynch mob cowed the potential employers each time, assisted by the smear job our own regents executed with the WSJ.

I don't think Briles was a choir boy by any stretch. But I think he and the program could've been saved and the university would've suffered way less PR damage if our board had handled this competently.

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He knew was he was agreeing to. It isn't like the criticism of Briles started after he took the money. He was facing major heat before taking the money. He took the money because he saw what was in the report and more importantly, he knew the facts surrounding his program. I've said this many times, you don't take hush money if you are innocent or even close to innocent. He was in his prime coaching years and he could have easily earned the hush money back in just a few years. You don't exchange your reputation for any sum on money and if he honestly thought he would just jump back into coaching, he needs to get better advisors around him or he needs to learn to read the room better.

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What you said is utter nonsense. Do you know how contracts work?

They fired him and paid him his entire buyout. (Why would they do that?) What was he supposed to then do, give the money back?

And if you paid any attention after that, it was clear he thought this would blow over and he would get another job.

Art Briles' biggest mistake at #Baylor was beating #Texas and #Oklahoma too often. pic.twitter.com/D63IQfhv2r

— Message Board Geniuses (@BoardGeniuses) October 31, 2024

Thee University said:

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I've got a new description for all of the limp-wristed, pencil-necked, concave chested chief apologists that for 3,079 days have been in a deep state of depression.

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So are you going to be at McLane on Sat night to honor the Art Briles coached teams that won back2back Big12 Titles?

Not unless he wants to be crowned the biggest hypocrite alive

More Thee word salad.

Robert Wilson said:

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Briles did not know the $18M was in exchange for his career. It's obvious he thought he could move on in coaching. He tried, but the social media lynch mob cowed the potential employers each time, assisted by the smear job our own regents executed with the WSJ.

I don't think Briles was a choir boy by any stretch. But I think he and the program could've been saved and the university would've suffered way less PR damage if our board had handled this competently.

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all we had to do was circle the wagons, and instead of hiring f--ing pepper/hamilton , use that money to hire a really good PR firm,,,,hell even blue bell and chipotle survived and people died....

IowaBear said:

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Should have worded it better l. I meant 2 found guilty in court. The Oakman and Chafin cases were clear money grab attempts

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Kind of like how Oakman grabbed some girls arm at Pedophile St when he didn't want to pay for something?

There are bad dudes all over. Some have been posters on these boards, friends with the owners on here, and that poster stole from them and ended up in jail. **** happens. 2 bad dudes doesn't erase 100's of great people that Briles had on his teams.

Stephenville is playing its final home game at Tarleton Memorial Stadium tonight.

The Yellow Jackets will play in their new stadium next year, and Stephenville ISD just announced the name: Art Briles Stadium (Mike Copeland Field). #txhsfb

— Charles Baggarly (@swaggarly) November 2, 2024

Stephenville ISD with some stones!