IowaBear said:
Bo Pelini at Nebby comes to mind as a real head scratcher
As was his predecessor, who likely is a bigger regret than Bo, if the Children of the Corn are honest.Guitarbiscuit said:IowaBear said:
Bo Pelini at Nebby comes to mind as a real head scratcher
Got a feeling Pelini was probably a nightmare to work with. But true, his record there was good.
Frank Solich won 9 games and got canned. Been a real sh** show in Lincoln ever since.IowaBear said:
Bo Pelini at Nebby comes to mind as a real head scratcher
hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
I don't think anyone including admin will "forget it", but we also don't need that era to be an albatross around our neck to the point we can't enjoy moving back up because we keep comparing to our past.Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
drahthaar said:As was his predecessor, who likely is a bigger regret than Bo, if the Children of the Corn are honest.Guitarbiscuit said:IowaBear said:
Bo Pelini at Nebby comes to mind as a real head scratcher
Got a feeling Pelini was probably a nightmare to work with. But true, his record there was good.
pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
Daveisabovereproach said:Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
What I've learned about Baylor is that if any coach has even one successful season, they immediately get a cult following that is both rabid and permanent. It isn't just briles that has one, Aranda has one as well, that's the funny thing
IowaBear said:
Bo Pelini at Nebby comes to mind as a real head scratcher
The most hilarious of all were the Einsteins that brown-nosed Chuck Reedy & Kevin Steele. I was branded Lucifer himself for about 10 years for posting the TRUTH about our black eyes administered by those coaches. While Reedy, Roberts & Steele were being lifted off the ground by Baylor's $$$$ men/brown-noses at that time, don't forget our AD at that time - Sweet Tom Stanton. It did not matter how bad those years, coaches and AD were, we had an abundance of posters on BaylorFans defending the indefensible.Daveisabovereproach said:Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
What I've learned about Baylor is that if any coach has even one successful season, they immediately get a cult following that is both rabid and permanent. It isn't just briles that has one, Aranda has one as well, that's the funny thing
hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Thee University said:The most hilarious of all were the Einsteins that brown-nosed Chuck Reedy & Kevin Steele. I was branded Lucifer himself for about 10 years for posting the TRUTH about our black eyes administered by those coaches. While Reedy, Roberts & Steele were being lifted off the ground by Baylor's $$$$ men/brown-noses at that time, don't forget our AD at that time - Sweet Tom Stanton. It did not matter how bad those years, coaches and AD were, we had an abundance of posters on BaylorFans defending the indefensible.Daveisabovereproach said:Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
What I've learned about Baylor is that if any coach has even one successful season, they immediately get a cult following that is both rabid and permanent. It isn't just briles that has one, Aranda has one as well, that's the funny thing
I was correct about those 4 and I remember taking heat for posting the TRUTH. This gave birth to the original charter members of the Baylor Bear Limp-Wrist/Pencil Neck Society. Some of them are here today posting away.
pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
I just meant that Solich had a .750 winning percentage and was fired after a 9-3 season (his previous season was 7-7 -- I still don't understand how they played 13 regular season games with no championship game). He won more games during his tenure than Devaney or Osborne did in six years. Because they weren't winning 12 games every single year, they canned him and have never been back to the Osborne days since.IowaBear said:
I thought they had more success under Pelini ? Could absolutely be wrong on that.
PartyBear said:
Texas with Mack Brown.
pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
I think there needs to be a distinction between those fired for external reasons (such as Briles, Leach, Pelini, Mangino, Leavitt, etc.) and those fired because they didn't win enough.Guitarbiscuit said:IowaBear said:
Bo Pelini at Nebby comes to mind as a real head scratcher
Got a feeling Pelini was probably a nightmare to work with. But true, his record there was good.
pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
What do you mean by "truly in the mix"?Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
Maybe a failure of semantics, but in 2013 and 14, we were ranked very high early and were in the conversation pretty much all year in part because of how we lit up the scoreboard. No one knew what to do with that, and it looked dangerous. The 2019 and 2021 teams were coming off such bad previous seasons that they had to win a long time to get on the radar, plus lots of close-ish wins against mediocre teams took a lot longer to make a splash. I do think 2019 would've played their way into it with a win over OU so I'd agree they were in the mix. The '21 team lost early-ish games to OSU and TCU and just wasn't really in the playoff picture because of that, but man did they close strong.bear2be2 said:What do you mean by "truly in the mix"?Robert Wilson said:pitchspork said:hodedofome said:
1a and 1b would be Briles and Leach. No other programs fell as much as those two after the firing, and have never recovered their previous stature.
Since Briles was fired, we've been to 5 additional bowl games, 2 of which were NY6, and had the best single season in program history in 2021 while winning the Big 12.
We've been less consistently good overall for sure, but hard to say we never recovered our previous stature when we *literally had a season where we did better than we ever had before*.
Will this board ever wash the taste of Briles out of its mouth?
We sucked out loud for 15 years before he got here. Then he brought Heisman winner, won a couple big 12 championships, beat up on UT and OU, had us in the national title / playoff conversation deep into seasons, and we fired him for non-football reasons. My guess is he will remain popular with a large contingent of Baylor fans forever.
I appreciate what both Aranda and Rhule have done at points, but we've been extremely up-and-down ever since Briles, and we've never been truly in the mix nationally since Briles. He had us on the lip of the cup and was just ramping up recruiting to match.
So, no. I'm happy to be 8-4 and headed to a bowl game. Excited about the future. But I also remember how badly we ****ed that up. It was peak Baylor behavior, and we forget it at our peril.
Our 2019 team was a win over Oklahoma from getting into the playoff and our 2021 team gets in without an upset loss to TCU.
Both of those teams were in similar positions to our 2013 and 2014 teams -- which were our two best before those.
