MRPorter7635 said:

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TT just bad. They need to hit the transfer portal hard.

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So what are we..they have the same record as us.

boognish_bear said:

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“You’ll be visited by three spirits.”

The three spirits: pic.twitter.com/SLAAX76w3k

— Pop-Tarts Bowl (@PopTartsBowl) December 25, 2024

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Perverted, imo.

We beat them!

When you update for the championship brackets opponents, chance B12 representative from ISU to ASU.

jumpinjoe said:

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When you update for the championship brackets opponents, chance B12 representative from ISU to ASU.

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Oops...thanks for the catch. Updated and fixed.

Robert Wilson said:

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Texas Tech football is just so consistently a disappointment.

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These bowl games are stupid ... and will remain so as long as the season and academic/transfer calendar are complete odds with each other.

Teams play their entire season with one team and coaching staff only to play a goofy exhibition game at the end without a bunch of their best players and -- in some cases -- the head coaches and/or coordinators that led them all year.

The Tech-Arkansas game was a prime example. Both teams were running skeleton crews out there, full of players playing roles they haven't held all season -- and likely won't even hold next year.

Honestly, the college football product is really bad right now. Games are exciting, but no one is actually good by historical standards. Because of the impact the transfer portal has had on teams' depth and continuity, every game is a mistake-filled mess. The games are still fun. But the quality has never been worse.

boognish_bear said:

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FWIW... there was not much separation in both records between P5 conferences last year

Bowl records by conference

Pac-12 5-3 (.625)
Big Ten 5-4 (.555)
Big 12 5-4 (.555)
SEC 5-4 (.555)
AAC 3-3 (.500)
CUSA 2-2 (.500)
ACC 5-6 (.454)
MW 3-4 (.428)
Sun Belt 5-7 (.416)
MAC 2-4 (.333)

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) January 3, 2024

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But the SEC's Bowl Games are harder, because it just is...

bear2be2 said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Texas Tech football is just so consistently a disappointment.

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These bowl games are stupid ... and will remain so as long as the season and academic/transfer calendar are complete odds with each other.

Teams play their entire season with one team and coaching staff only to play a goofy exhibition game at the end without a bunch of their best players and -- in some cases -- the head coaches and/or coordinators that led them all year.

The Tech-Arkansas game was a prime example. Both teams were running skeleton crews out there, full of players playing roles they haven't held all season -- and likely won't even hold next year.

Honestly, the college football product is really bad right now. Games are exciting, but no one is actually good by historical standards. Because of the impact the transfer portal has had on teams' depth and continuity, every game is a mistake-filled mess. The games are still fun. But the quality has never been worse.

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I agree. It's a huge mess, and the product has suffered significantly (as did college BB). That will continue without some governance or collective bargaining.

Holy moly! The ACC is terrible. Explains how SMU nearly won it in year one.

So do we want TCU to lose today because we hate them or want them to win to help conference perception?

I think im going to begrudgingly pull for a TCU win. At a time when the B12 perception is dicey we don't need to add a loss to a G5 team.

But if TCU loses...I can still enjoy that pretty easily

The stadium in Albuquerque is approximately 5,312 feet above sea level, or 5,325 feet higher than Cajun Field in Lafayette.

kirk posting a congratulatory tweet whenever his beloved sec loses pic.twitter.com/fj3jHEdewg https://t.co/UWC0LvAlhX

— jamie (@JordanJamie) December 27, 2024

ACC is crashing and burning...now 1-7

TCU took care of business out in the New Mexico desert. That gets the Big 12 back to 500 for the moment. We will see what happens here with Iowa State.

2 claps for Iowa St. First 11 win season in program history.

That gets the B12 to 3-2 and the ACC to 1-8....btw...NCST is currently trailing ECU 13-7 at half.

(Yeah...Cam Ward sat out the second half...but even with him in Iowa St was going toe to toe)

I'm not sure how to handle these games between conference opponents like BYU/CU and Oregon/OSU.

I don't know if I should record the win and loss for the conference… Or not record it because it's an inevitable outcome.

Right now with the B12 at 3-2 our winning percentage is at .60 which puts us ahead of the SEC which is 4-3 for a winning percentage of .57. If I record the BYU/CU results that will put the B12 at 4-3 also for the moment.

I know this is all just unofficial BS anyway… I think maybe I will not record the win/loss for these conference matchups.

I would not count the game. I would make the B12 as good as possible.

Another bowl loss for Miami FL (last win 2016, 3-13 in the ACC) pic.twitter.com/yuQ5NRHKUO

— CFB Home (@CFBHome) December 29, 2024

MRPorter7635 said:

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I would not count the game. I would make the B12 as good as possible.

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If byu wins since they the big 12 team in this game count the dub

NCST loses to ECU. ACC now 1-9. With 3 games remaining the best they can hope for is to finish 4-9.

Stefano DiMera said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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TT just bad. They need to hit the transfer portal hard.

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So what are we..they have the same record as us.

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Not if we win our bowl game. Also, we did beat them.

FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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FWIW... there was not much separation in both records between P5 conferences last year

Bowl records by conference

Pac-12 5-3 (.625)
Big Ten 5-4 (.555)
Big 12 5-4 (.555)
SEC 5-4 (.555)
AAC 3-3 (.500)
CUSA 2-2 (.500)
ACC 5-6 (.454)
MW 3-4 (.428)
Sun Belt 5-7 (.416)
MAC 2-4 (.333)

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) January 3, 2024

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But the SEC's Bowl Games are harder, because it just is...

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If the SEC is the "best conference" (TM) then their bowl games are against inferior teams. Those games should be easier, not harder.

whitetrash said:

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The stadium in Albuquerque is approximately 5,312 feet above sea level, or 5,325 feet higher than Cajun Field in Lafayette.

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The elevation of Lafayette, Louisiana is 36 feet above sea level, not below sea level. Albuquerque is 5,276 feet higher. While Ft Worth is significantly higher it still is far lower than Albuquerque. Bottom line: TCU is a much better team.

Fre3dombear said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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I would not count the game. I would make the B12 as good as possible.

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If byu wins since they the big 12 team in this game count the dub

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Makes sense. Our loss to Utah did not count as a conference game for standing.

historian said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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I would not count the game. I would make the B12 as good as possible.

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If byu wins since they the big 12 team in this game count the dub

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Makes sense. Our loss to Utah did not count as a conference game for standing.

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Make sense now that I think about it. BYU is representing the BIG 12. CU was not considered part of the Big 12 for the bowl selection process.

Especially since CU is getting hammered

historian said:

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whitetrash said:

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The stadium in Albuquerque is approximately 5,312 feet above sea level, or 5,325 feet higher than Cajun Field in Lafayette.

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The elevation of Lafayette, Louisiana is 36 feet above sea level, not below sea level. Albuquerque is 5,276 feet higher. While Ft Worth is significantly higher it still is far lower than Albuquerque. Bottom line: TCU is a much better team.

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I overestimated. Cajun Field is only 2 feet below sea level.
https://ragincajuns.com/facilities/cajun-field/5

Since PAC 12 still has a contract with the Alamo Bowl to provide a team, and Colorado as a past member of the PAC12 fills the role of that legacy member, their loss if they lose should not count against BIG12 but against PAC12.

I looked up the city, not the stadium. But that's not the point: both teams played at an elevation 4,000+ feet higher than they are used to.

historian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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FWIW... there was not much separation in both records between P5 conferences last year

Bowl records by conference

Pac-12 5-3 (.625)
Big Ten 5-4 (.555)
Big 12 5-4 (.555)
SEC 5-4 (.555)
AAC 3-3 (.500)
CUSA 2-2 (.500)
ACC 5-6 (.454)
MW 3-4 (.428)
Sun Belt 5-7 (.416)
MAC 2-4 (.333)

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) January 3, 2024

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But the SEC's Bowl Games are harder, because it just is...

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If the SEC is the "best conference" (TM) then their bowl games are against inferior teams. Those games should be easier, not harder.

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My comment was tongue in cheek...

Miami is now 1-12 in bowl games since 2007, their lone win coming in the 2016 Russell Athletic Bowl.

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) December 29, 2024

I thought as much. It's surprising how many people believe the ESPN propaganda. Few on these boards, though.