Dept. of Ed. Says Title IX applies to Payments

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cowboycwr
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Interesting memo from the department of ed just days before the President Elect takes office. Basically they are saying any profit sharing the schools do would fall under Title IX rules and has to be shared proportionately.

That is until a lawsuit or law or new leadership at the Dept. reverses that decision.

In my opinion there should be no reason a member of a small team that gets few fans to attend and no tv like say tennis (men's or women's) should be getting the same as athletes from the sports that do.

Sort of the same argument of pay for WNBA pay to me.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43443976/dept-education-says-title-ix-applies-payments-athletes
boognish_bear
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Apparently many P4 schools were planning to devote 80% to 85% of the $20.5 million revenue to football players.

It'll be interesting to see how this impacts those plans. Of course...with a new incoming administration things could certainly change again.
BigGameBaylorBear
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cowboycwr said:


Interesting memo from the department of ed just days before the President Elect takes office. Basically they are saying any profit sharing the schools do would fall under Title IX rules and has to be shared proportionately.

That is until a lawsuit or law or new leadership at the Dept. reverses that decision.

In my opinion there should be no reason a member of a small team that gets few fans to attend and no tv like say tennis (men's or women's) should be getting the same as athletes from the sports that do.

Sort of the same argument of pay for WNBA pay to me.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43443976/dept-education-says-title-ix-applies-payments-athletes


Drop women's sports and make everything co-ed. They can try-out for the football and basketball team if they want
Realitybites
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If things go as they should, four years from now we won't have a Department of Ed to make such proclamations.
contrario
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Realitybites said:

If things go as they should, four years from now we won't have a Department of Ed to make such proclamations.
Don't hold your breath.
Robert Wilson
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That's so stupid
bear2be2
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Realitybites said:

If things go as they should, four years from now we won't have a Department of Ed to make such proclamations.
Even if that were to happen (unlikely), it does nothing to change the fact that Title IX is established law. Meaning that this would all still be decided in court. Any way you slice it, "the settlement" is toothless nonsense, as I always suspected.
bear2be2
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Robert Wilson said:

That's so stupid
What's stupid is these conferences and schools thinking they could make hundreds of millions of dollars in "amateur sports" and there would be no repercussions.

Interscholastic athletics don't work as a for-profit enterprise. Any "solution" they arrive at at this point will introduce dozens of other issues and conflicts.

Put plainly, unchecked greed killed college athletics.
jumpinjoe
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bear2be2 said:

Robert Wilson said:

That's so stupid
What's stupid is these conferences and schools thinking they could make hundreds of millions of dollars in "amateur sports" and there would be no repercussions.

Interscholastic athletics don't work as a for-profit enterprise. Any "solution" they arrive at at this point will introduce dozens of other issues and conflicts.

Put plainly, unchecked greed killed college athletics.


Like at UT?
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Robert Wilson
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bear2be2 said:

Robert Wilson said:

That's so stupid
What's stupid is these conferences and schools thinking they could make hundreds of millions of dollars in "amateur sports" and there would be no repercussions.

Interscholastic athletics don't work as a for-profit enterprise. Any "solution" they arrive at at this point will introduce dozens of other issues and conflicts.

Put plainly, unchecked greed killed college athletics.


I agree with that, but kids who are playing sports that lose money should be really happy with a free scholarship, room, and board. And the idea that you have to spread the money around from the people who are making it to the ones who aren't is another version of the problem we had before.
bear2be2
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Robert Wilson said:

bear2be2 said:

Robert Wilson said:

That's so stupid
What's stupid is these conferences and schools thinking they could make hundreds of millions of dollars in "amateur sports" and there would be no repercussions.

Interscholastic athletics don't work as a for-profit enterprise. Any "solution" they arrive at at this point will introduce dozens of other issues and conflicts.

Put plainly, unchecked greed killed college athletics.


I agree with that, but kids who are playing sports that lose money should be really happy with a free scholarship, room, and board. And the idea that you have to spread the money around from the people who are making it to the ones who aren't is another version of the problem we had before.
The issue is still with the schools. You don't get to pay these players hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars and claim they're not employees.

As long as they're not employees, that money will (understandably) be viewed legally as "athletic financial assistance" and, as such, be subject to Title IX.

This is a quagmire. There is no solution.
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