Matt Rhule will be the next head coach at PSU

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Rhule developed far better all-round football players than Briles ever did. Rhule's players lasted in the pros, Briles' players mostly all bombed except for Andrew Billings.

Of the players drafted during Rhule's tenure, only James Lynch is still in the NFL. Giving him credit for Tyquan might be fair i guess, but arguably Thornton developed more under Grimes in one year than he did under Nixon in two.

While they were Rhule's recruits, Pitre & Bernard give Aranda plenty of credit for getting them NFL-ready. Especially Pitre...who Phil Snow played out of position with too much weight.

(for the edification of others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baylor_Bears_in_the_NFL_draft )
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Stranger said:

Stefano DiMera said:

'Morale killer...epic embarrassment for the ages..'

Hyperbole much?

Jack Crowe and Citadel say hi if you wanna talk about embarrassing upsets people still talk about..App St and Michigan .

No one outside Stranger's psych ward remembers Liberty




i hate to tell you Steph . . . EVERYBODY remembers Liberty. I welcome you to join the psych ward I belong to. It beats these green and gold sniffers that occupy this place.


I remember going to the Duke game in Durham that year. I believe it was the third game of the season. I couldn't believe the lack of energy on the sidelines… except for the occasional dunk on the Tyke basketball goal even as we were getting our hats handed to us.

Briles routinely won games against P5 teams like that by 40. I left in disbelief at how our program had fallen so far so fast, especially when a good portion of our roster was still intact. I'm still disappointed in how we squandered the brand that Briles built.
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Life is not black and white.

Pros:
Rhule upped recruiting that led to our 2021 season.
He brought in Snow as DC who was a stud
By 2019 we had a positive spotlight
Besides targeting calls pretty sound fundamentals
1 of 3 BU coaches to achieve 11 wins or more

Cons:
I don't know what we did on offense but it was painful
Liberty was bad, no other way to put it (but not intentional)
He did leave, granted he was up front he'd take an NFL job and he got $60M to do so
2nd half of OU… stings more than Liberty
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Bearknuckle said:

CaliBear00 said:


Rhule developed far better all-round football players than Briles ever did. Rhule's players lasted in the pros, Briles' players mostly all bombed except for Andrew Billings.

Of the players drafted during Rhule's tenure, only James Lynch is still in the NFL. Giving him credit for Tyquan might be fair i guess, but arguably Thornton developed more under Grimes in one year than he did under Nixon in two.

While they were Rhule's recruits, Pitre & Bernard give Aranda plenty of credit for getting them NFL-ready. Especially Pitre...who Phil Snow played out of position with too much weight.

(for the edification of others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baylor_Bears_in_the_NFL_draft )


I love how you cut it off at Rhule's tenure. Jalen Pitre? Terrell Bernard? Are you going to really claim that was Aranda's work.
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boykin_spaniel said:

Life is not black and white.

Pros:
Rhule upped recruiting that led to our 2021 season.
He brought in Snow as DC who was a stud
By 2019 we had a positive spotlight
Besides targeting calls pretty sound fundamentals
1 of 3 BU coaches to achieve 11 wins or more

Cons:
I don't know what we did on offense but it was painful
Liberty was bad, no other way to put it (but not intentional)
He did leave, granted he was up front he'd take an NFL job and he got $60M to do so
2nd half of OU… stings more than Liberty

That 2nd half vs OU in regular season screwed with me for about 3 days. Oilers '93 collapse vs. Bills became a distant memory.
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It was kind of a big deal in the national media, for anyone who wasn't there. They were relishing in the demise of Baylor football and rubbing it in.
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I felt that Rhule basically deserved the Carolina years. Not because he left Baylor for the job, but because he was so full of himself.

I was hoping for a new regime with a lot more class. Which it does. As far as equal or better football success and acumen that we all crave, that is yet to be clear.
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CaliBear00 said:

Bearknuckle said:

CaliBear00 said:


Rhule developed far better all-round football players than Briles ever did. Rhule's players lasted in the pros, Briles' players mostly all bombed except for Andrew Billings.

Of the players drafted during Rhule's tenure, only James Lynch is still in the NFL. Giving him credit for Tyquan might be fair i guess, but arguably Thornton developed more under Grimes in one year than he did under Nixon in two.

While they were Rhule's recruits, Pitre & Bernard give Aranda plenty of credit for getting them NFL-ready. Especially Pitre...who Phil Snow played out of position with too much weight.

(for the edification of others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baylor_Bears_in_the_NFL_draft )


I love how you cut it off at Rhule's tenure. Jalen Pitre? Terrell Bernard? Are you going to really claim that was Aranda's work.


Did you not read my whole post or are incapable of understanding what I wrote?

They had two years with Aranda - just as much time as with Snow, and both have publicly credited Aranda with their development. He moved Pitre to his natural spot and had him slim down from the over-bulk Snow insisted he build up for a position he didn't need to be playing.

Furthermore, '21 doesn't happen without Aranda bringing in Apu, Doyle, Gall and Estrada, or without moving Abram Smith to RB. Giving Rhule the bulk of the credit for '21 is a dumb take usually driven by Aranda Derangement Syndrome. Sorry if that upsets you.



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Bearknuckle said:

CaliBear00 said:

Bearknuckle said:

CaliBear00 said:


Rhule developed far better all-round football players than Briles ever did. Rhule's players lasted in the pros, Briles' players mostly all bombed except for Andrew Billings.

Of the players drafted during Rhule's tenure, only James Lynch is still in the NFL. Giving him credit for Tyquan might be fair i guess, but arguably Thornton developed more under Grimes in one year than he did under Nixon in two.

While they were Rhule's recruits, Pitre & Bernard give Aranda plenty of credit for getting them NFL-ready. Especially Pitre...who Phil Snow played out of position with too much weight.

(for the edification of others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baylor_Bears_in_the_NFL_draft )


I love how you cut it off at Rhule's tenure. Jalen Pitre? Terrell Bernard? Are you going to really claim that was Aranda's work.


Did you not read my whole post or are incapable of understanding what I wrote?

They had two years with Aranda - just as much time as with Snow, and both have publicly credited Aranda with their development. He moved Pitre to his natural spot and had him slim down from the over-bulk Snow insisted he build up for a position he didn't need to be playing.

Furthermore, '21 doesn't happen without Aranda bringing in Apu, Doyle, Gall and Estrada, or without moving Abram Smith to RB. Giving Rhule the bulk of the credit for '21 is a dumb take usually driven by Aranda Derangement Syndrome. Sorry if that upsets you.







I read it just fine, that's how I know you're full of BS. At this point, it's obvious that you just don't like Rhule because you're a total Stan for Art Briles. If you'd just admit that instead of making these laughably cringe posts of yours, you'd save yourself a lot of trouble.

Doyle? Oh please, he was little more than a rah-rah guy. Big liability in the passing game. No OC game planned around him. What about Estrada? He started five games. Yes, Aranda brought over Apu, that's pretty much Aranda's biggest contribution. If Aranda was supposedly so great, then why has he been unable to build a good defense on his own? Why is the team so fundamentally unsound? You can't have it both ways.
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CaliBear00 said:

Bearknuckle said:

CaliBear00 said:

Bearknuckle said:

CaliBear00 said:


Rhule developed far better all-round football players than Briles ever did. Rhule's players lasted in the pros, Briles' players mostly all bombed except for Andrew Billings.

Of the players drafted during Rhule's tenure, only James Lynch is still in the NFL. Giving him credit for Tyquan might be fair i guess, but arguably Thornton developed more under Grimes in one year than he did under Nixon in two.

While they were Rhule's recruits, Pitre & Bernard give Aranda plenty of credit for getting them NFL-ready. Especially Pitre...who Phil Snow played out of position with too much weight.

(for the edification of others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baylor_Bears_in_the_NFL_draft )


I love how you cut it off at Rhule's tenure. Jalen Pitre? Terrell Bernard? Are you going to really claim that was Aranda's work.


Did you not read my whole post or are incapable of understanding what I wrote?

They had two years with Aranda - just as much time as with Snow, and both have publicly credited Aranda with their development. He moved Pitre to his natural spot and had him slim down from the over-bulk Snow insisted he build up for a position he didn't need to be playing.

Furthermore, '21 doesn't happen without Aranda bringing in Apu, Doyle, Gall and Estrada, or without moving Abram Smith to RB. Giving Rhule the bulk of the credit for '21 is a dumb take usually driven by Aranda Derangement Syndrome. Sorry if that upsets you.







I read it just fine, that's how I know you're full of BS. At this point, it's obvious that you just don't like Rhule because you're a total Stan for Art Briles. If you'd just admit that instead of making these laughably cringe posts of yours, you'd save yourself a lot of trouble.

Doyle? Oh please, he was little more than a rah-rah guy. Big liability in the passing game. No OC game planned around him. What about Estrada? He started five games. Yes, Aranda brought over Apu, that's pretty much Aranda's biggest contribution. If Aranda was supposedly so great, then why has he been unable to build a good defense on his own? Why is the team so fundamentally unsound? You can't have it both ways.

"laughably cringe" ok sure lol - do you read the things you type yourself? Pretending Estrada wasn't a big part of our running game success via his excellent blocking just makes you look like a casual, and calling Doyle "little more than a rah-rah guy" cements it - he wasn't excellent in coverage but he was a run stuffing machine and his stats showed it.

We're "fundamentally unsound" because a bunch of lowerclassmen and backups have been pressed into service as we've experienced a cascade of injuries started with losing Devin Turner. We've also lost Barnes & Jackson for the season, two transfers who were primed to contribute (Barnes was our starter!). Jackie and Tez have both been dinged up for much of the year, and Carl Williams has been out for most of the season.

I've said more than once that if Dave was willing to politick with the media and more importantly boosters, he very may well have had the NIL support to build more depth in the offseason and we'd be 6-0. As it is, we're 4-2 with losses to an Auburn squad that is better than its 3-3 record indicates (their losses are two by 7pts and one by 10pts, all three to teams ranked #11 or better at the time at the time), and ASU who still looks to be one of the best teams in the league when they have Leavitt at full health.

And yet my posts are laughable cringe? Let's check back in tomorrow afternoon.

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The best thing Rhule did, imo, was not football related. It was PR. Whether it should have been or not, Baylor was a pariah. But the media people loved Matt Rhule. Few could have done what he did.

The worst part, also not football related. He was a mercenary. He was honest about it, sure, but Baylor fans were wanting someone who cared about Baylor at that fragile moment. He was not that.

As a football coach he was fine. Underachieved his first year, overachieved his third year.

But most importantly, Baylor football was competitive when he left. We weren't convinced that would be the case when he was hired.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful he did that particular job, and I also have no loyalty to him since he left.
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I rooting for Lil' Matty to get the PSU job. Will get him further way from BU.
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Big guy said:

I rooting for Lil' Matty to get the PSU job. Will get him further way from BU.

PSU is not going to settle for a nuts and bolts coach. They will want flash. Someone like the next Urban Meyer. Although Paterno is similar to Rhule in some conservative ways.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Big guy said:

I rooting for Lil' Matty to get the PSU job. Will get him further way from BU.

PSU is not going to settle for a nuts and bolts coach. They will want flash. Someone like the next Urban Meyer. Although Paterno is similar to Rhule in some conservative ways.



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Penn State is in a tough spot.

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Fre3dombear said:

Dont doubt me

I doubt you. Matt will be staying in Lincoln a few more years.
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BellCountyBear said:

Fre3dombear said:

Dont doubt me

I doubt you. Matt will be staying in Lincoln a few more years.

if he's lucky . . .
I'm a Bearbacker
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Stranger said:

BellCountyBear said:

Fre3dombear said:

Dont doubt me

I doubt you. Matt will be staying in Lincoln a few more years.

if he's lucky . . .



Based on what I watched tonite, this be more accurate than most of the comments on this thread.
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Well….its a double edged sword I think tonight kind of tells the tale. They are are focused on getting to State College PA right now or actually already are there but unannounced. If not and they don't make it to State College, Lincoln will be ice cold for rest of the tenure there.
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ursamajor said:

The best thing Rhule did, imo, was not football related. It was PR. Whether it should have been or not, Baylor was a pariah. But the media people loved Matt Rhule. Few could have done what he did.

The worst part, also not football related. He was a mercenary. He was honest about it, sure, but Baylor fans were wanting someone who cared about Baylor at that fragile moment. He was not that.

As a football coach he was fine. Underachieved his first year, overachieved his third year.

But most importantly, Baylor football was competitive when he left. We weren't convinced that would be the case when he was hired.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful he did that particular job, and I also have no loyalty to him since he left.

Good post. He most definitely turned the page and allowed Baylor football to move on.
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Rhule understands complementary football, but even when he was at Baylor, I believe that he held his offense back in order to augment the defense, and he's still doing that in Nebraska. I thought at the time that it was because we were limited by quarterback play, but I really just think that that's how he is. He wants to win games 13 - 10
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Youre a clown said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.


If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.


decent coach, decent program builder, loved by his players, family man…….and used car salesman that says whatever his audience wants to hear in a certain place and time.

Why's PSU talking to Rhule and his crew? Those are some bad dudes. She (Penn State) a stripper? I bet (Rhule) was getting a massage. I'll ck w Jim Doak and c if we can keep it quiet.
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Art_E_Guinn said:

Youre a clown said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.


If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.


decent coach, decent program builder, loved by his players, family man…….and used car salesman that says whatever his audience wants to hear in a certain place and time.

Why's PSU talking to Rhule and his crew? Those are some bad dudes. She (Penn State) a stripper? I bet (Rhule) was getting a massage. I'll ck w Jim Doak and c if we can keep it quiet.

Do we know this is actually happening, or is it the usual media blogosphere clickbait hot take bad speculation?

Naturally, it's the first name that would pop up. I'd like to see if they are actually all that interested. Rhule swears he isn't, but of course...
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Stefano DiMera said:

'Morale killer...epic embarrassment for the ages..'

Hyperbole much?

Jack Crowe and Citadel say hi if you wanna talk about embarrassing upsets people still talk about..App St and Michigan .

No one outside Stranger's psych ward remembers Liberty

Ol stef is just a revisionist, Liberty didn't happen ,,.I bet stef helped take down Lees statue and moved it to Lajitas,,,

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Stefano DiMera said:

Was Grant Teaff burned at the cross for San Jose State?

Seems like a lot more was on the line in that game than Liberty.
The San Jose State was before social media.
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I love how you mix sports into some political **** that I don't give a **** about.
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Quote:

Oilers '93 collapse vs. Bills became a distant memory.


For everyone who wasn't an Oilers fan, that was probably the best football game I've ever seen on any level.

I actually just looked up what Frank Reich is up to these days. He's the interim head coach of the Stanford team that just upset FSU.

Didn't know this about him:
"Throughout Reich's NFL career, he remained a devout Christian. He is a motivational speaker utilizing the great comebacks and the importance of God as a main keynote of his speeches. Reich credits the song "In Christ Alone" by Michael English as his inspiration. Reich attended the Charlotte Campus of Reformed Theological Seminary in Charlotte and he earned a Master of Divinity degree. Reich served as president of RTS' Charlotte campus from 2003 to 2006.He was also a pastor at Ballantyne Presbyterian until he moved to Indianapolis.
Reich and his wife, Linda, have three daughters."
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rhatt mule needs to worry abt keeping his cornhusker job -

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william said:

rhatt mule




Gold!
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Youre a clown said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.


If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.


-decent coach,
-decent program builder, loved by his players,
-used car salesman that says whatever his audience wants to hear in a certain place and time.


He took temple, who was dog **** and turned them into conference champs.

After the BOI ran loose and turned our program on its head, he took us to the CCG by instilling toughness and finding guys who were overlooked and developed them.

He turned around two programs and...he's "decent".

Also - Rhule was quite clear about wanting to get to the NFL. He told Rhoades and the players he recruited. It was no secret, but you make it sound like it was.

Everything in your post screams butt hurt.
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morethanhecouldbear said:

Youre a clown said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.


If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.


-decent coach,
-decent program builder, loved by his players,
-used car salesman that says whatever his audience wants to hear in a certain place and time.


He took temple, who was dog **** and turned them into conference champs.

After the BOI ran loose and turned our program on its head, he took us to the CCG by instilling toughness and finding guys who were overlooked and developed them.

He turned around two programs and...he's "decent".

Also - Rhule was quite clear about wanting to get to the NFL. He told Rhoades and the players he recruited. It was no secret, but you make it sound like it was.

Everything in your post screams butt hurt.


It's interesting that you say that I'm butt hurt when it literally looks like you're in the middle of applying preparation H to your own rearend

I'm not going to waste my time with somebody who bows down and worships at the feet of Matt Rhule and who balls their little fists up and screams in rage when anybody speaks the truth about him. Sorry that calling him a "decent coach" and "decent program builder" insulted your false god.

Here's some advice - buy yourself a Nebraska T-shirt from eBay, and go join their fan base. When God calls Matt to go to Penn State for a bigger paycheck, go on eBay and get yourself a Penn State T-shirt. Rinse and repeat
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Youre a clown said:

morethanhecouldbear said:

Youre a clown said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.


If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.


-decent coach,
-decent program builder, loved by his players,
-used car salesman that says whatever his audience wants to hear in a certain place and time.


He took temple, who was dog **** and turned them into conference champs.

After the BOI ran loose and turned our program on its head, he took us to the CCG by instilling toughness and finding guys who were overlooked and developed them.

He turned around two programs and...he's "decent".

Also - Rhule was quite clear about wanting to get to the NFL. He told Rhoades and the players he recruited. It was no secret, but you make it sound like it was.

Everything in your post screams butt hurt.


It's interesting that you say that I'm butt hurt when it literally looks like you're in the middle of applying preparation H to your own rearend

I'm not going to waste my time with somebody who bows down and worships at the feet of Matt Rhule and who balls their little fists up and screams in rage when anybody speaks the truth about him. Sorry that calling him a "decent coach" and "decent program builder" insulted your false god.

Here's some advice - buy yourself a Nebraska T-shirt from eBay, and go join their fan base. When God calls Matt to go to Penn State for a bigger paycheck, go on eBay and get yourself a Penn State T-shirt. Rinse and repeat



Lol, you literally don't know what you're talking about.
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boognish_bear said:



guessing he's already been told by Kraft he's not going to get the gig (which I suspect is the case), because otherwise this is just him pitching the PSU admin/boosters/alums on his Culture at the expense of the kids he's supposed to be focusing on right now.
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