Dia del DougO said:

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blackie said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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blackie said:

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You can throw all the stones. But this team does not quit and they don't transfer. What do they see in the coaching staff that outsiders don't?

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BS. A good psychiatrist could possibly explain why they quit earlier. I think the pressure gets to them and when we have nothing left to lose they kick it in with an effort that was missing 90% of game.

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Only the players could assess it. Anything any of us say is just speculation. I don't think they "quit" earlier. They had some drops and Sawyer was overthrowing everyone. I couldn't prove they "quit" or not....and neither could anyone else.

As I sad, I am a Sawyer fan, but for those that have asked the INT problem is probably why Finn started last season. He had shown that in the previous season and it may have been what he was showing in the spring last year.

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Finn was an INT machine.

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Id managed to forget Finn. Thanks for the reminder

Down 42-21 with 3:17 and we almost won it...

PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

Basement Brigade said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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blackie said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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blackie said:

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You can throw all the stones. But this team does not quit and they don't transfer. What do they see in the coaching staff that outsiders don't?

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BS. A good psychiatrist could possibly explain why they quit earlier. I think the pressure gets to them and when we have nothing left to lose they kick it in with an effort that was missing 90% of game.

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Only the players could assess it. Anything any of us say is just speculation. I don't think they "quit" earlier. They had some drops and Sawyer was overthrowing everyone. I couldn't prove they "quit" or not....and neither could anyone else.

As I sad, I am a Sawyer fan, but for those that have asked the INT problem is probably why Finn started last season. He had shown that in the previous season and it may have been what he was showing in the spring last year.

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Finn was an INT machine.

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Id managed to forget Finn. Thanks for the reminder

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After a year of denying NIL was a thing, we then lost another year by giving that dude the bag.

A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

PaperBear89 said:

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Basement Brigade said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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blackie said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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blackie said:

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You can throw all the stones. But this team does not quit and they don't transfer. What do they see in the coaching staff that outsiders don't?

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BS. A good psychiatrist could possibly explain why they quit earlier. I think the pressure gets to them and when we have nothing left to lose they kick it in with an effort that was missing 90% of game.

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Only the players could assess it. Anything any of us say is just speculation. I don't think they "quit" earlier. They had some drops and Sawyer was overthrowing everyone. I couldn't prove they "quit" or not....and neither could anyone else.

As I sad, I am a Sawyer fan, but for those that have asked the INT problem is probably why Finn started last season. He had shown that in the previous season and it may have been what he was showing in the spring last year.

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Finn was an INT machine.

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Id managed to forget Finn. Thanks for the reminder

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After a year of denying NIL was a thing, we then lost another year by giving that dude the bag.

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some elite bayloring it up if ive ever seen it

TCU 42, Baylor 36 (Final)

Arandaball is 4-3, and fails to cover the spread.

Dia del DougO said:

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blackie said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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blackie said:

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You can throw all the stones. But this team does not quit and they don't transfer. What do they see in the coaching staff that outsiders don't?

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BS. A good psychiatrist could possibly explain why they quit earlier. I think the pressure gets to them and when we have nothing left to lose they kick it in with an effort that was missing 90% of game.

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Only the players could assess it. Anything any of us say is just speculation. I don't think they "quit" earlier. They had some drops and Sawyer was overthrowing everyone. I couldn't prove they "quit" or not....and neither could anyone else.

As I sad, I am a Sawyer fan, but for those that have asked the INT problem is probably why Finn started last season. He had shown that in the previous season and it may have been what he was showing in the spring last year.

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Finn was an INT machine.

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Did he play long enough to show it? The switch was good, but I think my hypothesis has some weight to answer why Finn started out of spring.

I don't even remotely believe this. Not only do they have the better football program, but they also have an overall better athletic program than us right now.

that loss hurts worse then if we had just forefitted after 3rd rain delay…..we were that close to pulling off truly the biggest miracle.

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A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

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Where is your proof they are willing to accept mediocrity? You do realize the other team has D1 players and want to win as well. I assume you have played competitive sports. You should know that. Biggest problem I see is that we beat ourselves too often, too much. I don't think that is some kind of proof they are satisfied with their season.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

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A loss is good for the malcontents here. The pic saved the day for those who say they would rather go through another Roberts/Steele era than have Aranda.

PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Regardless of whether we would have had a last 2nd miracle (which Aranda has shown he can do), the fact that we put ourselves in position to have to win by a miracle is the problem for malcontents like me, as you call them. These last second endeavors are a 50-50 proposition for us, and that translates to .500 ball. And that's not good enough.

blackie said:

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Drisk said:

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A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

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Where is your proof they are willing to accept mediocrity? You do realize the other team has D1 players and want to win as well. I assume you have played competitive sports. You should know that. Biggest problem I see is that we beat ourselves too often, too much. I don't think that is some kind of proof they are satisfied with their season.

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You said the quiet part out loud. Habitually turning the ball over points directly to players who are not doing the hard things week in and week out to get better. Ergo, accepting mediocrity.

All our games seem to come down to 1 score results, so both sides of the equation (malcontents and otherwise) will likely each get their chance to crow a few more times each since we'll win a few and lose a few. It's just basically where we are.

Final proof that yoda needs to go.

PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

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A loss is good for the malcontents here. The pic saved the day for complaining

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No matter the industry, blaming the consumer for being unhappy with your product is never a winning move.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

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A loss is good for the malcontents here. The pic saved the day for complaining

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No matter the industry, blaming the consumer for being unhappy with your product is never a winning move.

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On another thread they say they are fine with a worse product as long as Aranda is not the HC. So it isn't really the product

blackie said:

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Drisk said:

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A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

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Where is your proof they are willing to accept mediocrity? You do realize the other team has D1 players and want to win as well. I assume you have played competitive sports. You should know that. Biggest problem I see is that we beat ourselves too often, too much. I don't think that is some kind of proof they are satisfied with their season.

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1-5 against TCU over the past 6 years is far below mediocrity however one slices or dices it.

Honest question: how many games does this current team win if we were to go back in time 15 years or so when we had A&M, UT, Nebraska, and OU on the schedule?

blackie said:

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Drisk said:

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A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

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Where is your proof they are willing to accept mediocrity? You do realize the other team has D1 players and want to win as well. I assume you have played competitive sports. You should know that. Biggest problem I see is that we beat ourselves too often, too much. I don't think that is some kind of proof they are satisfied with their season.

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True.

blackie said:

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Drisk said:

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A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

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Where is your proof they are willing to accept mediocrity? You do realize the other team has D1 players and want to win as well. I assume you have played competitive sports. You should know that. Biggest problem I see is that we beat ourselves too often, too much. I don't think that is some kind of proof they are satisfied with their season.

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Retaining Aranda.
The constant harping on image issues rather than focusing on results.

PartyBear said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

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A loss is good for the malcontents here. The pic saved the day for complaining

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No matter the industry, blaming the consumer for being unhappy with your product is never a winning move.

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On another thread they say they are fine with a worse product as long as Aranda is not the HC. So it isn't really the product

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You are purposefully misreading those posts. They are implying that they are OK with short term losing if it leads to Aranda's replacement leading to long term success.

Accepting short term pain to gain long term health isn't exactly a revolutionary concept.

PartyBear said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

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A loss is good for the malcontents here. The pic saved the day for complaining

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No matter the industry, blaming the consumer for being unhappy with your product is never a winning move.

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On another thread they say they are fine with a worse product as long as Aranda is not the HC. So it isn't really the product

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you are
Missing the point entirely. We simply cannot do more of the same. I am willing to take a risk if it brings some energy to a program that has settled into the football equivalent of Applebees, and we just cancelled the skillet queso.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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PartyBear said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

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A loss is good for the malcontents here. The pic saved the day for complaining

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No matter the industry, blaming the consumer for being unhappy with your product is never a winning move.

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On another thread they say they are fine with a worse product as long as Aranda is not the HC. So it isn't really the product

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You are purposefully misreading those posts. They are implying that they are OK with short term losing if it leads to Aranda's replacement leading to long term success.

Accepting short term pain to gain long term health isn't exactly a revolutionary concept.

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I would think that most fans, perhaps not all, would be fine with some short term 2 year losing streak if it meant we played a few years of better than mediocre ball after that.

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blackie said:

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Drisk said:

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A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

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Where is your proof they are willing to accept mediocrity? You do realize the other team has D1 players and want to win as well. I assume you have played competitive sports. You should know that. Biggest problem I see is that we beat ourselves too often, too much. I don't think that is some kind of proof they are satisfied with their season.

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1-5 against TCU over the past 6 years is far below mediocrity however one slices or dices it.

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Completely unacceptable.

I think some sense of competence with upside potential is what most fans want.

Checking in. I see dave paid me yet again. Missed the last 4 hours when i walked away and waited for money to arrive

Mailbox money is real

Thank you Dave. Youre the best!

BUATX2000 said:

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blackie said:

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Drisk said:

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A willingness to accept mediocrity as the standard. Maybe those aren't the players we want sticking around.

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Where is your proof they are willing to accept mediocrity? You do realize the other team has D1 players and want to win as well. I assume you have played competitive sports. You should know that. Biggest problem I see is that we beat ourselves too often, too much. I don't think that is some kind of proof they are satisfied with their season.

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You said the quiet part out loud. Habitually turning the ball over points directly to players who are not doing the hard things week in and week out to get better. Ergo, accepting mediocrity.

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If they wanted mediocrity they wouldn't be coming back late in games. No competitor wants to lose. Recruits would not be making commitments to join a locker room of players they can easily be spotted to be satisfied with mediocrity. Yet out recent recruiting has been very good. Saying they are satisfied with that is nothing more than a strawman for a fan's frustration of trying to live their lives through a bunch of college students playing a game.

Have you never in your career gone through stretches that no matter how hard you tried you still don't get the results you want? It doesn't mean or prove that is your goal.....to be mediocre. It is just an inane statement to make from whoever made it in the first place.

BUATX2000 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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PartyBear said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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FINAL

TCU 42
Baylor 36

Redding recovered the onside kick. We got called for holding on the first play then Sawyer threw his 3rd pick of the day.

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Sawyer saved the day in the last 39 seconds for the malcontents

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Saving the day is typically reserved for when you win, not when you lose. Unless one's standards have become very low.

(But if you are implying he wasn't the reason we lost, then I agree with that.)

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A loss is good for the malcontents here. The pic saved the day for complaining

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No matter the industry, blaming the consumer for being unhappy with your product is never a winning move.

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On another thread they say they are fine with a worse product as long as Aranda is not the HC. So it isn't really the product

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you are
Missing the point entirely. We simply cannot do more of the same. I am willing to take a risk if it brings some energy to a program that has settled into the football equivalent of Applebees, and we just cancelled the skillet queso.

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Your last sentence gave me a good laugh on a dreary day. Thank you.

I certainly wouldn't pin the mediocrity on the players. But we are mediocre.

Isn't Aranda's record now 33-32? It's literally the definition of average and mediocre.

35-33

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Isn't Aranda's record now 33-32? It's literally the definition of average and mediocre.

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The comment I was replying to was saying the players would accept mediocrity. Besides having an average record does not say that is what you are striving far. Think about what you are saying. Nobody at this level wants mediocrity as an end result. Good strawman for fans, though.

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Checking in. I see dave paid me yet again. Missed the last 4 hours when i walked away and waited for money to arrive

Mailbox money is real

Thank you Dave. Youre the best!

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I need to get into gambling because I have no clue who is setting these over/unders. People who don't know Dave that well. The guy just consistently under performs. I can't even remember the last time we came out and just knocked the crap out of somebody. Maybe Texas Tech last year?