Surprised there's been no mention of this yet ...

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bear2be2
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Stefano DiMera said:

Calm down.

I'm not rationalizing anything.

How many years has he been AD? Have there been multiple instances of this behavior from him? If so... He needs to be gone yesterday.

I know I've had outbursts I'm not proud of. But I've apologized if I was the one at fault and moved on.

Do y'all not think he's as frustrated as y'all are on this season ? His ass is in the jackpot if Aranda fails.

I'm willing to grant him a little grace on this.

If I find out he's a coke head.. alcoholic. .. cheating on his wife.. and there are more instances of this behavior.. I'll be the first to say he can't represent Baylor and has to go.

I've already said I'll give him grace for one such outburst. He had two three hours apart. That's not normal behavior and shouldn't be treated as such.

If he can't handle the stress or emotion of his job, he shouldn't hold it.
Stefano DiMera
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I'll answer my own question.. He's been AD nine and a half years. No blowups.

Two occurrences 3 hours apart I lump into one and consider it 'having a bad day'. Tough emotional last second loss. .Maybe Aranda should yell at someone on the sidelines.

But like I said.. if it turns out we have Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight for an AD I'll be the loudest wanting a change.

Silly **** like this happens in every program.. just seems the timing is weird on this..
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It's for damn sure a data point. And is really weird. In a vacuum not grounds to term. But we're not in a vacuum. If this had been a few years ago, with a different coach, I'm sure Certain Regents would have been "crying out to God."
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Stefano DiMera said:

I'll answer my own question.. He's been AD nine and a half years. No blowups.

Two occurrences 3 hours apart I lump into one and consider it 'having a bad day'. Tough emotional last second loss. .Maybe Aranda should yell at someone on the sidelines.

But like I said.. if it turns out we have Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight for an AD I'll be the loudest wanting a change.

Silly **** like this happens in every program.. just seems the timing is weird on this..

"bad day"....really. Having a bad day is when you get a flat tire on the way to a job interview and it's raining outside.

Swearing at a player before he goes into the game, then pursuing said player / coach at the conclusion of the game - - - that's not having a bad day. Unfortunately, poor decisions have consequences....He's a representative of a school in a prominent role - - such school that has seen a student athlete kill a teammate in the basketball program and a rape scandal in the football program.

I've said it before - - you act this way in the real world and your ass is canned.
bear2be2
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Stefano DiMera said:

I'll answer my own question.. He's been AD nine and a half years. No blowups.

Two occurrences 3 hours apart I lump into one and consider it 'having a bad day'. Tough emotional last second loss. .Maybe Aranda should yell at someone on the sidelines.

But like I said.. if it turns out we have Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight for an AD I'll be the loudest wanting a change.

Silly **** like this happens in every program.. just seems the timing is weird on this..

There have been only two reported occurrences. That doesn't mean there aren't more, and now that this is public, people who are good at digging up such information will be probing into his past and present interactions in a way that they never have before.

But even if this is only a recent development, it doesn't change much. He only recently started looking like a sloppy middle-aged man in crisis, which makes a change in behavior all the more concerning.

It's his job to present himself and act in a professional manner. There's been a noticeable decline in the former for more than a year now. And it's starting to look like the latter has become a problem, too.
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Stefano DiMera said:

I'll answer my own question.. He's been AD nine and a half years. No blowups.

Two occurrences 3 hours apart I lump into one and consider it 'having a bad day'. Tough emotional last second loss. .Maybe Aranda should yell at someone on the sidelines.

But like I said.. if it turns out we have Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight for an AD I'll be the loudest wanting a change.

Silly **** like this happens in every program.. just seems the timing is weird on this..

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bear2be2 said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Karab said:

Based on the article, this doesn't sound like much of a big deal in the world of athletics.

In the scheme of Christian ethics, certainly wrong and should be addressed.

The fact that this made the news at all makes me wonder if it was intentionally leaked because Baylor wants to justify firing him at the end of the season.


You sir I think nailed this on the head.

People on here complain about wokeness and the world being soft. This is nothing but ammo for the people who want him gone and I get it.

There is no world in which it is appropriate for an athletic director to be even having these conversations with players or assistant coaches, much less getting in altercations with them over things well outside his scope.

You seem hell-bent on rationalizing unhinged, micromanaging behavior. But that's exactly what this is.

Mack Rhoades isn't a coach. He's an athletic administrator. He needs to get his ass in the luxury boxes and kiss the asses of rich donors. That's his job. He has no business whatsoever accosting people on the sideline before and after games.


Yes, but it's not uncommon for ADs to be on the sideline and get comfortable with the team.

He crossed some lines. A fireable one? Not sure based on the limited details. Certainly one that requires correction. A single F-Bomb at a player is not the end of the world. Neither is grabbing someone in a football setting.

I'm not here to defend him, and I frankly don't ultimately care if Baylor fires him or not. Baylor claims it investigated and addressed the issue--I'm not one for social media witch hunts.

The fact that this is news tells me someone is trying to get him gone. I don't know if it's Baylor or another conference that wants his CFP seat.

One of the downsides to losing Mack is we lose the CFP selection committee member not just for us but very likely the Big 12.

And if we fire Linda, we lose any influence in the NCAA.

Not defending them, but they strategically put themselves in positions that make them invaluable.
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BluesBear said:

Stefano DiMera said:

I'll answer my own question.. He's been AD nine and a half years. No blowups.

Two occurrences 3 hours apart I lump into one and consider it 'having a bad day'. Tough emotional last second loss. .Maybe Aranda should yell at someone on the sidelines.

But like I said.. if it turns out we have Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight for an AD I'll be the loudest wanting a change.

Silly **** like this happens in every program.. just seems the timing is weird on this..

"bad day"....really. Having a bad day is when you get a flat tire on the way to a job interview and it's raining outside.

Swearing at a player before he goes into the game, then pursuing said player / coach at the conclusion of the game - - - that's not having a bad day. Unfortunately, poor decisions have consequences....He's a representative of a school in a prominent role - - such school that has seen a student athlete kill a teammate in the basketball program and a rape scandal in the football program.

I've said it before - - you act this way in the real world and your ass is canned.



Maybe he got a flat tire driving back from an interview for the permanent LSU AD job and it was raining in Louisiana
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Karab said:

bear2be2 said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Karab said:

Based on the article, this doesn't sound like much of a big deal in the world of athletics.

In the scheme of Christian ethics, certainly wrong and should be addressed.

The fact that this made the news at all makes me wonder if it was intentionally leaked because Baylor wants to justify firing him at the end of the season.


You sir I think nailed this on the head.

People on here complain about wokeness and the world being soft. This is nothing but ammo for the people who want him gone and I get it.

There is no world in which it is appropriate for an athletic director to be even having these conversations with players or assistant coaches, much less getting in altercations with them over things well outside his scope.

You seem hell-bent on rationalizing unhinged, micromanaging behavior. But that's exactly what this is.

Mack Rhoades isn't a coach. He's an athletic administrator. He needs to get his ass in the luxury boxes and kiss the asses of rich donors. That's his job. He has no business whatsoever accosting people on the sideline before and after games.


Yes, but it's not uncommon for ADs to be on the sideline and get comfortable with the team.

He crossed some lines. A fireable one? Not sure based on the limited details. Certainly one that requires correction. A single F-Bomb at a player is not the end of the world. Neither is grabbing someone in a football setting.

I'm not here to defend him, and I frankly don't ultimately care if Baylor fires him or not. Baylor claims it investigated and addressed the issue--I'm not one for social media witch hunts.

The fact that this is news tells me someone is trying to get him gone. I don't know if it's Baylor or another conference that wants his CFP seat.

One of the downsides to losing Mack is we lose the CFP selection committee member not just for us but very likely the Big 12.

And if we fire Linda, we lose any influence in the NCAA.

Not defending them, but they strategically put themselves in positions that make them invaluable.

you are delusional, Mrs. Rhoades.
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bear2be2 said:


Mack Rhoades isn't a coach. He's an athletic administrator. He needs to get his ass in the luxury boxes and kiss the asses of rich donors. That's his job. He has no business whatsoever accosting people on the sideline before and after games.

Exactally.

Who does Rhodes think he is…..Jerry Jones from 1995…?
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Stefano DiMera said:

I'll answer my own question.. He's been AD nine and a half years. No blowups.

Two occurrences 3 hours apart I lump into one and consider it 'having a bad day'. Tough emotional last second loss. .Maybe Aranda should yell at someone on the sidelines.

But like I said.. if it turns out we have Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight for an AD I'll be the loudest wanting a change.

Silly **** like this happens in every program.. just seems the timing is weird on this..

Really Mrs. Lincoln, that Booth guy has been great until now…..simply having a bad day.
maybe we should let it pass.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Bandito said:

Realitybites said:

bear2be2 said:


This situation seems less than ideal.


Actually, the situation is ideal to fire him "for cause".


We can only hope. But I think he's too far up Linda's butt. What clown show this has become.


I don't think she is running the place. It is the same old farts


It is. The BOI is her boss. They are accountable to no one.
Stefano DiMera
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I actually almost posted something after the Cincinnati game.. I saw him on the sidelines and I wondered if he had a medical issue.. his face looked more drawn and sunken than I had ever seen.

Not excusing the behavior.. just saying before we go on witch hunts we need to think about what may be happening with someone.
Stefano DiMera
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Did you strain your back on that?
.that is a really weird analogy
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A friend of mine posted a pic with Mack at that game and you're right, he looked awful. I asked if he was sick but my friend just said Mack had been losing weight. He's lost so much that he looks unhealthy.
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And on top of organizations posting this story, we now have players moms discussing on FB that this situation is unacceptable, diabolical and that their boys deserve better. Lovely...
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Stefano DiMera said:

BluesBear said:

Stefano DiMera said:

I'll answer my own question.. He's been AD nine and a half years. No blowups.

Two occurrences 3 hours apart I lump into one and consider it 'having a bad day'. Tough emotional last second loss. .Maybe Aranda should yell at someone on the sidelines.

But like I said.. if it turns out we have Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight for an AD I'll be the loudest wanting a change.

Silly **** like this happens in every program.. just seems the timing is weird on this..

"bad day"....really. Having a bad day is when you get a flat tire on the way to a job interview and it's raining outside.

Swearing at a player before he goes into the game, then pursuing said player / coach at the conclusion of the game - - - that's not having a bad day. Unfortunately, poor decisions have consequences....He's a representative of a school in a prominent role - - such school that has seen a student athlete kill a teammate in the basketball program and a rape scandal in the football program.

I've said it before - - you act this way in the real world and your ass is canned.



Maybe he got a flat tire driving back from an interview for the permanent LSU AD job and it was raining in Louisiana

And he got a flat tire near Vidor and not knowing how to fix it he called Linda who arranged for an Exxon station to send crew. When theybfound Out who he was on credit card they left one nut missing

Anyone but the aggies please
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Man, and I thought I was going to miss the Saturday game thread on the bye week.

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PeggyR65 said:

And on top of organizations posting this story, we now have players moms discussing on FB that this situation is unacceptable, diabolical and that their boys deserve better. Lovely...

. . . it's the Baylor way
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Big guy said:

bear2be2 said:


Mack Rhoades isn't a coach. He's an athletic administrator. He needs to get his ass in the luxury boxes and kiss the asses of rich donors. That's his job. He has no business whatsoever accosting people on the sideline before and after games.

Exactally.

Who does Rhodes think he is…..Jerry Jones from 1995…?


Yes. But factually he is Jerry 2025, sadly

Anyone but the aggies please
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Why is the AD on the sidelines? Shouldn't he be in big shrimp suites giving handles to fat cats?
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Trigg is my favorite player on this offense. Why are we pissing him off? He's an A1 talent. He will either be dating Taylor Swift or getting screamed at by Mike Singletary. He has that level of talent.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Why is the AD on the sidelines? Shouldn't he be in big shrimp suites giving handles to fat cats?

Because the suite owners won't let him near them.

Anyone but the aggies please
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Quinton said:

bear2be2 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Now the part that concerns me. The story says Rhoades WAS investigated. Why is he still here if they investigated and the report is factual?

Yeah, I don't like that either.

I can forgive an isolated incident as a momentary lack of judgment, but in this story alone, he had two separate altercations with two separate people at two separate times.That indicates a chronic inability to control one's emotions.

How many other incidents like this have there with him that went unreported?

If this story is true, I want Mack Rhoades fired. The absolute last thing we need, with our history, is an athletic director bringing our university bad publicity with stupid, off-the-field nonsense.

In addition to being completely unacceptable, that is weasel behavior.

Now its complete confirmation bias on my end right now (until proven), but to curse out multiple dudes and touch players/coaches while pitching the religious mission is such a disgrace. The self righteousness is off the charts. Dude probably helped sucked the life out of the team as well. The AD is adding to an already de-motivated group.

Helps that you know the guys can't touch you. The weasel needs to chill bc he's going to get beat one day continually pulling this nonsense...stop pretending, nobody is mistaking you for a tough guy.


It appears to me that he's sucked the life out of Aranda. There's a picture from weeks ago where Dave looks defeated. That was my observation.

If this is his style, it explains the decline of athletics at Baylor.
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Replace Mack with Kim Mulkey. On her first day she can fire Aranda and hire Art Briles.
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Is it pure coincidence that the next game was declared a "white out"?
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TenBears said:

It's for damn sure a data point. And is really weird. In a vacuum not grounds to term. But we're not in a vacuum. If this had been a few years ago, with a different coach, I'm sure Certain Regents would have been "crying out to God."

That certain coach and several others would have told him to stfu and get off the sidelines, bench area, practice floor or field and don't show up my players or coaches. Micromanage mack.
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Karab said:

bear2be2 said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Karab said:

Based on the article, this doesn't sound like much of a big deal in the world of athletics.

In the scheme of Christian ethics, certainly wrong and should be addressed.

The fact that this made the news at all makes me wonder if it was intentionally leaked because Baylor wants to justify firing him at the end of the season.


You sir I think nailed this on the head.

People on here complain about wokeness and the world being soft. This is nothing but ammo for the people who want him gone and I get it.

There is no world in which it is appropriate for an athletic director to be even having these conversations with players or assistant coaches, much less getting in altercations with them over things well outside his scope.

You seem hell-bent on rationalizing unhinged, micromanaging behavior. But that's exactly what this is.

Mack Rhoades isn't a coach. He's an athletic administrator. He needs to get his ass in the luxury boxes and kiss the asses of rich donors. That's his job. He has no business whatsoever accosting people on the sideline before and after games.


Yes, but it's not uncommon for ADs to be on the sideline and get comfortable with the team.

He crossed some lines. A fireable one? Not sure based on the limited details. Certainly one that requires correction. A single F-Bomb at a player is not the end of the world. Neither is grabbing someone in a football setting.

I'm not here to defend him, and I frankly don't ultimately care if Baylor fires him or not. Baylor claims it investigated and addressed the issue--I'm not one for social media witch hunts.

The fact that this is news tells me someone is trying to get him gone. I don't know if it's Baylor or another conference that wants his CFP seat.

One of the downsides to losing Mack is we lose the CFP selection committee member not just for us but very likely the Big 12.

And if we fire Linda, we lose any influence in the NCAA.

Not defending them, but they strategically put themselves in positions that make them invaluable.

"get comfortable with the team"?? Nice comfort level. jeez..No matter how badly he wants, he's not a member of the team or coaching staff. It's a wave off of DA also.
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Mega Baptist church cluster…
Fre3dombear
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Lmao. They deleted my thread. We so bush league

A thread saying mack thodes will be fired and why cannot be put on this here message board.

He gone!!!!!!!
boognish_bear
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Ok Mack...can you motivate our D next?

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Realitybites said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

I do not know Mack.

Don't have a strong opinion of his performance.

I do not believe this story at all.


Story is legit. There was a second incident after the game. There is reportedly video.

"Immediately following the game, as the players were making their way around the field to thank fans, along with convening for the school song, Mack Rhoades was allegedly standing behind Trigg and other coaches. This is when the situation took another turn, with an assistant coach being involved.

Multiple witnseses tell OutKick that while Trigg went to be with his family, an assistant coach was visiting with his family, when AD Mack Rhoades allegedly came up from behind and grabbed the assistant's arm and, subsequently, his shoulder and neck area. According to sources, Rhoades then allegedly proceeded to verbally accost the assistant coach, which was witnessed by multiple Baylor staff members within the athletic department, along with family members."

Mack Rhodes has to be fired. Baylor needs an AD who doesn't show his ass in public. If the institution thinks it can circle the wagons on this, it's going to be pretty embarassed when the video leaks. Firing now is one way to make the story go away and keep the video from leaking.

I'm tired of mediocrity and Mack has proven to me he is mediocrity personified which is great for this schools current administration. Whatever he was going through or is still going through some kind of mental and/or physical issue I hope he gets treatment and certainly wish him luck and hope he can sort this out with his 3mm year salary and health insurance. I believe he should also be gone because he is not stable and he has turned into a liability and even bigger liability for the Baylor brand. We don't need this and every time shiet like this is brought up in hit pieces/click bait stories all the rats come out the wood work bringing up Rape U and how we deserve to be rung through the mud. It's time for a change and I wish him good luck and he's able to get himself fixed.
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Fre3dombear said:

Lmao. They deleted my thread. We so bush league

A thread saying mack thodes will be fired and why cannot be put on this here message board.

He gone!!!!!!!


Why not? That's the developing consensus. Trying to suppress it is only going to further anger the donors.
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boognish_bear said:

Ok Mack...can you motivate our D next?



The Missouri team is solid - ATM (and it's painful writing this) has a very good chance to make the championship final....
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Realitybites said:

Fre3dombear said:

Lmao. They deleted my thread. We so bush league

A thread saying mack thodes will be fired and why cannot be put on this here message board.

He gone!!!!!!!


Why not? That's the developing consensus. Trying to suppress it is only going to further anger the donors.

What donors?
 
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