Briles Will Coach Again. Yesssss

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Aliceinbubbleland said:



Your on the wrong website. Take this to the Eastern New Mexico site.
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Nobody's gonna believe this, but 4 minutes ago Art Briles sat down 10 feet from my wife and me in DFW terminal D, where we're waiting for our Thanksgiving flight. Unbelievable, but I swear it's true. I've already talked with him; he's on his way to ENMU. WIshed him well on behalf of multiplied thousands of Baylor fans. And I am most assuredly on the right website.
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It will be interesting to see how his coaching staff rounds out. Great opportunity for a young coaching prospect.
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tstuck said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:



Your on the wrong website. Take this to the Eastern New Mexico site.


I guess we can't talk about Matt Rhule, Kevin Steele, Grant Teaff, or any other former coach. Get your head out of your a** and deal with it.
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Briles Derangement Syndrome is real.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
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RightRevBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Now you can all go become ENMU fans instead of pretending to be Baylor faithful.

lmao have fun and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


An analogy for you, Bearknuckle. Let's say my wife made up lies and told them to everyone we know to cover up her own failings. Would my son be unfaithful to her as his mother, if he was pissed at her?

that's a terrible analogy, because Baylor never told lies about Art, and it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he made the bed he had to lay down in: for example, Johnny Jefferson became a heroic addict in Briles' program.

I don't give a rat's ass that Art was 'cleared' of any Title IX related cover-ups - his program had some truly ugly spots that demanded accountability. Given the level of addiction that JJ describes in the article linked above, it's totally unreasonable to believe that the training & coaching staff had literally no idea he was having problems.

Hell, even if they were simply drug testing as often as they were supposed to be, they'd have caught Jefferson's drug use. So either they ignored results or they weren't even looking as hard as they were supposed to be. Either one is major failing.

If Jefferson had experienced a cardiac event during the UNC game (which was in fact within the range of possible outcomes given the state of his health at the time)... in such an event, do you think Briles would have kept his job?
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ImABearToo said:

Makes my day. Go get em Art.

Agree 1000%!!!! So happy for him. Wish it had been Baylor, but instead we have aranda.
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Bearknuckle said:

RightRevBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Now you can all go become ENMU fans instead of pretending to be Baylor faithful.

lmao have fun and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


An analogy for you, Bearknuckle. Let's say my wife made up lies and told them to everyone we know to cover up her own failings. Would my son be unfaithful to her as his mother, if he was pissed at her?

that's a terrible analogy, because Baylor never told lies about Art, and it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he made the bed he had to lay down in: for example, Johnny Jefferson became a heroic addict in Briles' program.

I don't give a rat's ass that Art was 'cleared' of any Title IX related cover-ups - his program had some truly ugly spots that demanded accountability. Given the level of addiction that JJ describes in the article linked above, it's totally unreasonable to believe that the training & coaching staff had literally no idea he was having problems.

Hell, even if they were simply drug testing as often as they were supposed to be, they'd have caught Jefferson's drug use. So either they ignored results or they weren't even looking as hard as they were supposed to be. Either one is major failing.

If Jefferson had experienced a cardiac event during the UNC game (which was in fact within the range of possible outcomes given the state of his health at the time)... in such an event, do you think Briles would have kept his job?

Feel better now? With your support Linda and that F-stick (literally) Rhoades... oh wait, sorry the BOR are patting you on the back as they express their gratitude to you for supporting "THEE we're not an institution of football, have another jumbo shrimp".
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Bearknuckle said:

Any Baylor fan slobbering over Art would hate him to this day if he'd have left us for UT in 2015 there is zero doubt about that, but they tell themselves otherwise because acknowledging he never felt total loyalty to Baylor would take all the wind out of their "WE DESERVE THIS FOR WHAT WE DID TO ART" self-flagellating bull*****


The man brought a Heisman Trophy, a new State of the Art Stadium, and a couple of Big 12 titles to Waco.

For those of us who followed loss after loss in buried in the back of the box scores in the sports section for a decade, that was practically as unbelievable as Baylor winning a national championship would be in 202x.

Then there are people who are just ungrateful.
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canoso said:

Nobody's gonna believe this, but 4 minutes ago Art Briles sat down 10 feet from my wife and me in DFW terminal D, where we're waiting for our Thanksgiving flight. Unbelievable, but I swear it's true. I've already talked with him; he's on his way to ENMU. WIshed him well on behalf of multiplied thousands of Baylor fans. And I am most assuredly on the right website.

Awesome !
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/@enmuathletics3717/videos

ENMU Athletics has a Youtube channel.

Go subscribe and get them trending.

Wonder if there is a way to stream their games online next year.
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Bearknuckle said:

RightRevBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Now you can all go become ENMU fans instead of pretending to be Baylor faithful.

lmao have fun and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


An analogy for you, Bearknuckle. Let's say my wife made up lies and told them to everyone we know to cover up her own failings. Would my son be unfaithful to her as his mother, if he was pissed at her?

that's a terrible analogy, because Baylor never told lies about Art, and it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he made the bed he had to lay down in: for example, Johnny Jefferson became a heroic addict in Briles' program.

I don't give a rat's ass that Art was 'cleared' of any Title IX related cover-ups - his program had some truly ugly spots that demanded accountability. Given the level of addiction that JJ describes in the article linked above, it's totally unreasonable to believe that the training & coaching staff had literally no idea he was having problems.

Hell, even if they were simply drug testing as often as they were supposed to be, they'd have caught Jefferson's drug use. So either they ignored results or they weren't even looking as hard as they were supposed to be. Either one is major failing.

If Jefferson had experienced a cardiac event during the UNC game (which was in fact within the range of possible outcomes given the state of his health at the time)... in such an event, do you think Briles would have kept his job?


I feel bad for Johnny, but his story is not unique to Baylor or football. College students across the country get introduced and addicted to drugs. The article doesn't say anything about how he avoided getting caught. I worked at a drug and alcohol rehab for a couple of years. I had to conduct drug testing multiple times a week. There are so many ways to avoid detection with urine tests.

Also, if you think that Baylor never mislead anyone about Art Briles then I have some oceanfront property in Arizona that I would be willing to sell you for at a steep discount.
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canoso said:

Nobody's gonna believe this, but 4 minutes ago Art Briles sat down 10 feet from my wife and me in DFW terminal D, where we're waiting for our Thanksgiving flight. Unbelievable, but I swear it's true. I've already talked with him; he's on his way to ENMU. WIshed him well on behalf of multiplied thousands of Baylor fans. And I am most assuredly on the right website.

Amarillo by mid day up from Horseshoe Bay......

- uncle fred

... stopped at Arby's before I drove out thatta way.

the sun was high in the New Mexico sky
as I pulled in the Portales way
Took a look a-round town and
Was on a return flight the same day

D!

The man must REALLY miss coaching......

https://abc7amarillo.com/sports/content/art-briles-named-football-coach-eastern-new-mexico-university-baylor-scandal-sexual-assault-allegations-mount-vernon-high-school-guelfi-firenze-italian-football-league-grambling-state-offensive-coordinator-hamilton-tiger-cats-cfl-backlash
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https://www.youtube.com/live/w6d1QC1Q68w

Press conference today with the announcement.
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19 comments so far… I figured they would all be trashing ENMU… But it seems pretty split.

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BBWCBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

RightRevBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Now you can all go become ENMU fans instead of pretending to be Baylor faithful.

lmao have fun and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


An analogy for you, Bearknuckle. Let's say my wife made up lies and told them to everyone we know to cover up her own failings. Would my son be unfaithful to her as his mother, if he was pissed at her?

that's a terrible analogy, because Baylor never told lies about Art, and it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he made the bed he had to lay down in: for example, Johnny Jefferson became a heroic addict in Briles' program.

I don't give a rat's ass that Art was 'cleared' of any Title IX related cover-ups - his program had some truly ugly spots that demanded accountability. Given the level of addiction that JJ describes in the article linked above, it's totally unreasonable to believe that the training & coaching staff had literally no idea he was having problems.

Hell, even if they were simply drug testing as often as they were supposed to be, they'd have caught Jefferson's drug use. So either they ignored results or they weren't even looking as hard as they were supposed to be. Either one is major failing.

If Jefferson had experienced a cardiac event during the UNC game (which was in fact within the range of possible outcomes given the state of his health at the time)... in such an event, do you think Briles would have kept his job?

Feel better now? With your support Linda and that F-stick (literally) Rhoades... oh wait, sorry the BOR are patting you on the back as they express their gratitude to you for supporting "THEE we're not an institution of football, have another jumbo shrimp".


Until proven otherwise, I am going to refer to Bearknuckle as Neal Jeffrey. I invite others to do the same. He is showing Prestonwood levels of legalistic morality.
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Stefano DiMera said:

Interesting article.

Says if we had beat UCF in Fiesta he probably would have headed to Austin to take UT job

https://www.chron.com/sports/college/article/art-briles-texas-coach-alternate-reality-21131667.php



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Realitybites said:

Bearknuckle said:

Any Baylor fan slobbering over Art would hate him to this day if he'd have left us for UT in 2015 there is zero doubt about that, but they tell themselves otherwise because acknowledging he never felt total loyalty to Baylor would take all the wind out of their "WE DESERVE THIS FOR WHAT WE DID TO ART" self-flagellating bull*****


The man brought a Heisman Trophy, a new State of the Art Stadium, and a couple of Big 12 titles to Waco.

For those of us who followed loss after loss in buried in the back of the box scores in the sports section for a decade, that was practically as unbelievable as Baylor winning a national championship would be in 202x.

Then there are people who are just ungrateful.

I'm a middle aged Waco-native Baylor grad (4-6 generations of Baylor alums depending on if I get to count extended family). I'm very well aware of Baylor's historical standing in College Football. So yeah, there's zero question that Art accomplished things that seemed impossible at Baylor. He's a first ballot HOF coach on a purely football-related analysis.

But Drayton McLane brought a new state of the art stadium, full stop. Art was not performing miracles in a vacuum - he had unprecedented levels of support for a Baylor coach. That support began forming well before he hit his peak: Art's folksy brand of Texan played perfectly with our biggest donors, and they were already supporting him in a big way even before Robert won the Heisman.

What Baylor football needs right now isn't Art Briles, but rather full buy-in from our wealthiest alumni. Their collective clout and resources are a massive part of why Art succeeded here, and their potential benefaction is huge part of why Matt Rhule, Joey McGuire, and Dave Aranda all wanted to be coaches here.
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RightRevBear said:

BBWCBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

RightRevBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Now you can all go become ENMU fans instead of pretending to be Baylor faithful.

lmao have fun and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


An analogy for you, Bearknuckle. Let's say my wife made up lies and told them to everyone we know to cover up her own failings. Would my son be unfaithful to her as his mother, if he was pissed at her?

that's a terrible analogy, because Baylor never told lies about Art, and it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he made the bed he had to lay down in: for example, Johnny Jefferson became a heroic addict in Briles' program.

I don't give a rat's ass that Art was 'cleared' of any Title IX related cover-ups - his program had some truly ugly spots that demanded accountability. Given the level of addiction that JJ describes in the article linked above, it's totally unreasonable to believe that the training & coaching staff had literally no idea he was having problems.

Hell, even if they were simply drug testing as often as they were supposed to be, they'd have caught Jefferson's drug use. So either they ignored results or they weren't even looking as hard as they were supposed to be. Either one is major failing.

If Jefferson had experienced a cardiac event during the UNC game (which was in fact within the range of possible outcomes given the state of his health at the time)... in such an event, do you think Briles would have kept his job?

Feel better now? With your support Linda and that F-stick (literally) Rhoades... oh wait, sorry the BOR are patting you on the back as they express their gratitude to you for supporting "THEE we're not an institution of football, have another jumbo shrimp".


Until proven otherwise, I am going to refer to Bearknuckle as Neal Jeffrey. I invite others to do the same. He is showing Prestonwood levels of legalistic morality.

"legalistic morality" lmao ok sure

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Bearknuckle said:

Realitybites said:

Bearknuckle said:

Any Baylor fan slobbering over Art would hate him to this day if he'd have left us for UT in 2015 there is zero doubt about that, but they tell themselves otherwise because acknowledging he never felt total loyalty to Baylor would take all the wind out of their "WE DESERVE THIS FOR WHAT WE DID TO ART" self-flagellating bull*****


The man brought a Heisman Trophy, a new State of the Art Stadium, and a couple of Big 12 titles to Waco.

For those of us who followed loss after loss in buried in the back of the box scores in the sports section for a decade, that was practically as unbelievable as Baylor winning a national championship would be in 202x.

Then there are people who are just ungrateful.

I'm a middle aged Waco-native Baylor grad (4-6 generations of Baylor alums depending on if I get to count extended family). I'm very well aware of Baylor's historical standing in College Football. So yeah, there's zero question that Art accomplished things that seemed impossible at Baylor. He's a first ballot HOF coach on a purely football-related analysis.

But Drayton McLane brought a new state of the art stadium, full stop. Art was not performing miracles in a vacuum - he had unprecedented levels of support for a Baylor coach. That support began forming well before he hit his peak: Art's folksy brand of Texan played perfectly with our biggest donors, and they were already supporting him in a big way even before Robert won the Heisman.

What Baylor football needs right now isn't Art Briles, but rather full buy-in from our wealthiest alumni. Their collective clout and resources are a massive part of why Art succeeded here, and their potential benefaction is huge part of why Matt Rhule, Joey McGuire, and Dave Aranda all wanted to be coaches here.


Art's development of Baylor's program began at Floyd Casey stadium, not McLane stadium. Not exactly a top shelf venue. Yes Drayton and others ponied up enough money to build a new stadium and other on campus facilities, but not until after Briles success was already established. McGuire jumped from high school coach to major college assistant for an opportunity to move up, not BMD's money. Rhule came for the money, no doubt about that , and bailed for the same reason. Aranda came to start his first head coaching job. Baylor shot themselves in the foot with how they have handled things for the last decade with their donors. Why would they think anything will change in the next decade ?
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Rhule came here as as stepping stone. Stronger commitment to football with higher potential. To continue winning at Temple would have been a major challenge, and with a pretty tough ceiling of success.

He was probably always going to be a rental. That was OK for the time being. Can't blame him. He got his NFL shot.
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Dia del DougO
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Put it on paper.
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Bearknuckle said:

RightRevBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Now you can all go become ENMU fans instead of pretending to be Baylor faithful.

lmao have fun and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


An analogy for you, Bearknuckle. Let's say my wife made up lies and told them to everyone we know to cover up her own failings. Would my son be unfaithful to her as his mother, if he was pissed at her?

that's a terrible analogy, because Baylor never told lies about Art, and it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he made the bed he had to lay down in: for example, Johnny Jefferson became a heroic addict in Briles' program.

I don't give a rat's ass that Art was 'cleared' of any Title IX related cover-ups - his program had some truly ugly spots that demanded accountability. Given the level of addiction that JJ describes in the article linked above, it's totally unreasonable to believe that the training & coaching staff had literally no idea he was having problems.

Hell, even if they were simply drug testing as often as they were supposed to be, they'd have caught Jefferson's drug use. So either they ignored results or they weren't even looking as hard as they were supposed to be. Either one is major failing.

If Jefferson had experienced a cardiac event during the UNC game (which was in fact within the range of possible outcomes given the state of his health at the time)... in such an event, do you think Briles would have kept his job?

You're blaming Art Briles for Johnny Jefferson's heroin (assuming you did not mean heroic there) addiction? Got it. Johnny Jefferson, not Art Briles, is responsible for his drug addiction as we all are responsible for our own decisions.
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william said:

canoso said:

Nobody's gonna believe this, but 4 minutes ago Art Briles sat down 10 feet from my wife and me in DFW terminal D, where we're waiting for our Thanksgiving flight. Unbelievable, but I swear it's true. I've already talked with him; he's on his way to ENMU. WIshed him well on behalf of multiplied thousands of Baylor fans. And I am most assuredly on the right website.

Amarillo by mid day up from Horseshoe Bay......

- uncle fred

... stopped at Arby's before I drove out thatta way.

the sun was high in the New Mexico sky
as I pulled in the Portales way
Took a look a-round town and
Was on a return flight the same day

D!

The man must REALLY miss coaching......

https://abc7amarillo.com/sports/content/art-briles-named-football-coach-eastern-new-mexico-university-baylor-scandal-sexual-assault-allegations-mount-vernon-high-school-guelfi-firenze-italian-football-league-grambling-state-offensive-coordinator-hamilton-tiger-cats-cfl-backlash


Few problems are so daunting that they can't be remedied by an Arby;s 2 for 1 roast beef sandwich deal.
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Bearknuckle said:

Realitybites said:

Bearknuckle said:

Any Baylor fan slobbering over Art would hate him to this day if he'd have left us for UT in 2015 there is zero doubt about that, but they tell themselves otherwise because acknowledging he never felt total loyalty to Baylor would take all the wind out of their "WE DESERVE THIS FOR WHAT WE DID TO ART" self-flagellating bull*****


The man brought a Heisman Trophy, a new State of the Art Stadium, and a couple of Big 12 titles to Waco.

For those of us who followed loss after loss in buried in the back of the box scores in the sports section for a decade, that was practically as unbelievable as Baylor winning a national championship would be in 202x.

Then there are people who are just ungrateful.

I'm a middle aged Waco-native Baylor grad (4-6 generations of Baylor alums depending on if I get to count extended family). I'm very well aware of Baylor's historical standing in College Football. So yeah, there's zero question that Art accomplished things that seemed impossible at Baylor. He's a first ballot HOF coach on a purely football-related analysis.

But Drayton McLane brought a new state of the art stadium, full stop. Art was not performing miracles in a vacuum - he had unprecedented levels of support for a Baylor coach. That support began forming well before he hit his peak: Art's folksy brand of Texan played perfectly with our biggest donors, and they were already supporting him in a big way even before Robert won the Heisman.

What Baylor football needs right now isn't Art Briles, but rather full buy-in from our wealthiest alumni. Their collective clout and resources are a massive part of why Art succeeded here, and their potential benefaction is huge part of why Matt Rhule, Joey McGuire, and Dave Aranda all wanted to be coaches here.


In order to have a full buy-in by wealthy alumni, I have to think that the "needle in the haystack, unique" coach Baylor needs, as well as initially, showing he has the capability of winning w/o interference from the inept Admin is paramount. That being said, I would think they would still need some form of reassurance that the administration would almost be bullet proof from f****** it up. Unfortunately, that's the one variable with little to no control over. Therefore, that $$$$$$$$$ will be hard to come by and rightfully so. Baylor gonna' Baylor and almost everyone is NOW completely aware of it.
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Go Greyhounds!!
Le the portal transfers begin.
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Which one of you losers is the pivot man in this fully expected Circle Jerk? Make sure you tell the participants to point their vienna sausages away from each other. One second thought, maybe they want to roll around in it like a javelina hog.

Good grief! You guys are a classic study of disorders linked to worshiping football coaches, the intense emotions and identification involved in sports fandom can be connected to psychological distress such as anxiety and depression, especially when wins are seen as a personal achievement or losses are perceived as personal failures. The extreme highs and lows of following a team can exacerbate pre-existing mental health issues or cause problems like irritability, anger, and dejection in some fans. This intense emotional investment, sometimes called "dysfunctional fandom," can impair social functioning and lead to behaviors like confronting others.

How intense fandom and coach worship can affect a fan's psychology:
  • Vulnerability to extremes: The extreme emotional swings of winning and losing can lead to feelings of dejection, irritability, and anger. This can be particularly challenging for those with a history of mental illness.
  • Cognitive dissonance: Fans may struggle to reconcile negative information about their favorite coach with their positive feelings, a phenomenon known as cognitive dissonance, making it difficult to acknowledge flaws or mistakes.
  • Impaired social functioning: In its most extreme forms, dysfunctional fandom can lead to poor social functioning, such as confronting others or engaging in constant complaining.
  • Feeling of identity loss: Some fans may feel a sense of loss or despair when their team or coach performs poorly because they have a strong psychological connection, identifying with the team as an extension of their own identity.
Intense fandom, coupled with a strong psychological connection to a coach, can lead to a variety of psychological effects for fans. These can include negative emotions, cognitive dissonance, and impaired social functioning. While a link to specific mental disorders is not a given, it is important to recognize how the intense emotions of sports fandom can impact psychological well-being, particularly when combined with factors like a coach's behavior or personal struggles.
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mcleod66 said:

Bearknuckle said:

RightRevBear said:

Bearknuckle said:

Now you can all go become ENMU fans instead of pretending to be Baylor faithful.

lmao have fun and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.


An analogy for you, Bearknuckle. Let's say my wife made up lies and told them to everyone we know to cover up her own failings. Would my son be unfaithful to her as his mother, if he was pissed at her?

that's a terrible analogy, because Baylor never told lies about Art, and it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he made the bed he had to lay down in: for example, Johnny Jefferson became a heroic addict in Briles' program.

I don't give a rat's ass that Art was 'cleared' of any Title IX related cover-ups - his program had some truly ugly spots that demanded accountability. Given the level of addiction that JJ describes in the article linked above, it's totally unreasonable to believe that the training & coaching staff had literally no idea he was having problems.

Hell, even if they were simply drug testing as often as they were supposed to be, they'd have caught Jefferson's drug use. So either they ignored results or they weren't even looking as hard as they were supposed to be. Either one is major failing.

If Jefferson had experienced a cardiac event during the UNC game (which was in fact within the range of possible outcomes given the state of his health at the time)... in such an event, do you think Briles would have kept his job?

You're blaming Art Briles for Johnny Jefferson's heroin (assuming you did not mean heroic there) addiction? Got it. Johnny Jefferson, not Art Briles, is responsible for his drug addiction as we all are responsible for our own decisions.

did you not have a direct response to what I actually wrote, or is reading comprehension difficult for you? I did not say that Art was responsible for Johnny's addiction.

What I am saying very clearly is that Baylor's medical/training staff should have caught the problem as it was happening. Simply following guidelines on drug testing should have revealed Johnny's addiction to the medical/training staff well before the UNC game. Beyond that, no one is around a CFB RB more than their trainers, coaches, and medical staff (for much of the year they are around them daily, often for extended periods of time).

There's no way he was a full-blown addict (he was, by his own admission) and no one on the team had any idea. Anyone who's known actual addicts knows exactly what I mean...I've encountered them many times in my work career fwiw, and their problems are very visible.

There are two readings of the UNC game that so many of y'all love to celebrate, given the fact that the training staff had to give Johnny an IV to get him ready to play that game (per Johnny himself in the article I linked above):
  • Our staff was fully incompetent (I do no believe this to be the case)
  • Our staff exploited Johnny's mental & physical health struggles for the sake of Winning
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It was a reported fact in the Briles scandal that Ken Starr and the athletic department were playing funny with drug testing.

That same issue was a problem in the Bliss/Denehey scandal. Failed drug tests but players stayed eligible.
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Stefano DiMera said:

It was a reported fact in the Briles scandal that Ken Starr and the athletic department were playing funny with drug testing.

That same issue was a problem in the Bliss/Denehey scandal. Failed drug tests but players stayed eligible.

No way you keep a drug user secret. Anyone who had social contact with a player knew if they were users. They were after more than Briles. They wanted to dump Starr whose biggest mistake was hiring those "girls" from Pepper Hamilton.

Perhaps you meant BOR scandal?
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Bearknuckle said:

Realitybites said:

Bearknuckle said:

Any Baylor fan slobbering over Art would hate him to this day if he'd have left us for UT in 2015 there is zero doubt about that, but they tell themselves otherwise because acknowledging he never felt total loyalty to Baylor would take all the wind out of their "WE DESERVE THIS FOR WHAT WE DID TO ART" self-flagellating bull*****


The man brought a Heisman Trophy, a new State of the Art Stadium, and a couple of Big 12 titles to Waco.

For those of us who followed loss after loss in buried in the back of the box scores in the sports section for a decade, that was practically as unbelievable as Baylor winning a national championship would be in 202x.

Then there are people who are just ungrateful.

I'm a middle aged Waco-native Baylor grad (4-6 generations of Baylor alums depending on if I get to count extended family). I'm very well aware of Baylor's historical standing in College Football. So yeah, there's zero question that Art accomplished things that seemed impossible at Baylor. He's a first ballot HOF coach on a purely football-related analysis.

But Drayton McLane brought a new state of the art stadium, full stop. Art was not performing miracles in a vacuum - he had unprecedented levels of support for a Baylor coach. That support began forming well before he hit his peak: Art's folksy brand of Texan played perfectly with our biggest donors, and they were already supporting him in a big way even before Robert won the Heisman.

What Baylor football needs right now isn't Art Briles, but rather full buy-in from our wealthiest alumni. Their collective clout and resources are a massive part of why Art succeeded here, and their potential benefaction is huge part of why Matt Rhule, Joey McGuire, and Dave Aranda all wanted to be coaches here.


I'd suggest a competent football coach is a more important factor to "winning" than BMD's, as vital as they are.
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Here you go boys:

https://www.facebook.com/ENMUFOOTBALL/

Don't orgasm over each other.

I'm sure yall can buy a used yellow dawg school bus for luxury transport out to Portales and then hit the towns of Clovis, San Angelo, Wichita Falls, Canyon, Midland, Kingsville, Alpine and the highlight game.....Ellensburg, Washington (if the yella dawg makes it 2,046 miles!).



"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
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