List of CFB coaches available to Baylor who can……

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Adriacus Peratuun
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1) recruit Texas effectively. Specifically East Texas, Golden Triangle, DFW, Greater Houston & CenTex.
can find talent others miss.

2) develop talent. Also find a S&C coach who can build grown men.

3) scheme to the available talent instead of trying to pound square pegs into round holes.

4) innovate on offense. Make Ds defend the entire field.

5) connect to players at a level that builds loyalty.

6) can communicate to the fanbase.

7) has a visible energy level.

8) develop a team that comes out punching.

9) assist in rebuilding trust with jaded BMDs.

10) brand builder.

11) toughness builder, especially with D.

12) proactive not reactive.

13) every ounce of their being screams Texan.

14) sweats the minor details.

15) hires a talented and tireless staff and leads them.

16) admin would not dare to interfere on sidelines.

17) sees the possibility of Baylor.

18) recognizes what Baylor already has in facilities, location, unique character, etc.

19) self starter

20) has an edge, more edge, large supply of edge.
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Art Briles
Realitybites
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#1 is the real sticking point.

Traylor is the only one I can think of on that list who hasn't already taken another job.

Maybe Newberry from Navy.

Otherwise Mullen (UNLV), Eck (UNM), Rolovich (Cal), Rogers (Washington State).

I don't know if any of them are natural Texas recruiters.

Leadership has really left the football program in dire straits. We've gone from one of the 3 premier football programs in the state to probably fifth in the Central-North Texas region. Nobody is abandoning an SEC, Big 10, other Big 12, or probably even an ACC job to come to Baylor. So we're either going to have to look at AAC, Mac, MWC coaches or take a gamble on another coordinator.
Streichout
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Baylor lost out on another commit Jamarion Vincent flipping from Baylor to Michigan . Top corner commit of the Aranda era
WA Jim
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Realitybites said:

#1 is the real sticking point.

Traylor is the only one I can think of on that list who hasn't already taken another job.

Maybe Newberry from Navy.

Otherwise Mullen (UNLV), Eck (UNM), Rolovich (Cal), Rogers (Washington State).

I don't know if any of them are natural Texas recruiters.

Leadership has really left the football program in dire straits. We've gone from one of the 3 premier football programs in the state to probably fifth in the Central-North Texas region. Nobody is abandoning an SEC, Big 10, other Big 12, or probably even an ACC job to come to Baylor. So we're either going to have to look at AAC, Mac, MWC coaches or take a gamble on another coordinator.

The recruiting thing/local ties is overrated in today's recruiting/NIL/Portal - old provincial thinking - a good recruiter can recruit anywhere.
Adriacus Peratuun
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WA Jim said:

Realitybites said:

#1 is the real sticking point.

Traylor is the only one I can think of on that list who hasn't already taken another job.

Maybe Newberry from Navy.

Otherwise Mullen (UNLV), Eck (UNM), Rolovich (Cal), Rogers (Washington State).

I don't know if any of them are natural Texas recruiters.

Leadership has really left the football program in dire straits. We've gone from one of the 3 premier football programs in the state to probably fifth in the Central-North Texas region. Nobody is abandoning an SEC, Big 10, other Big 12, or probably even an ACC job to come to Baylor. So we're either going to have to look at AAC, Mac, MWC coaches or take a gamble on another coordinator.

The recruiting thing/local ties is overrated in today's recruiting/NIL/Portal - old provincial thinking - a good recruiter can recruit anywhere.


Except CFB rosters across the country show otherwise.

80+% of CFB players are on rosters w/i 400 miles of their home city.
Aliceinbubbleland
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The days of only looking for Texas kids is over. Tech, UT aggnoids and maybe SMU have the cash to buy them.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
Adriacus Peratuun
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

The days of only looking for Texas kids is over. Tech, UT aggnoids and maybe SMU have the cash to buy them.


If Baylor can't recruit Texas it is time to fold the athletic department.

That said, you are wrong. Baylor can recruit the vast bulk of its CFB roster from Texas and win at a high level. But leadership has to change first.
Robert Wilson
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Eck and Mullen would be near the top of my list. Both proven head coaches and both builders.
Bearknuckle
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His name is Eric Morris and we missed that boat, unfortunately.
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Guitarbiscuit
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I just heard of him. Up and coming candidate.
TeamPlayer
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Jonathan Smith is someone to watch for next year. He did a great job at Oregon State and got a raw deal at Michigan State.

I have no idea what his prayer life is like, if he uses filthy language, or if he appreciates questions.

Collin Klein would be an option. Aggies hate him, but they hate everyone. Seems like a really high character guy and a good fit for us.

WA Jim
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

WA Jim said:

Realitybites said:

#1 is the real sticking point.

Traylor is the only one I can think of on that list who hasn't already taken another job.

Maybe Newberry from Navy.

Otherwise Mullen (UNLV), Eck (UNM), Rolovich (Cal), Rogers (Washington State).

I don't know if any of them are natural Texas recruiters.

Leadership has really left the football program in dire straits. We've gone from one of the 3 premier football programs in the state to probably fifth in the Central-North Texas region. Nobody is abandoning an SEC, Big 10, other Big 12, or probably even an ACC job to come to Baylor. So we're either going to have to look at AAC, Mac, MWC coaches or take a gamble on another coordinator.

The recruiting thing/local ties is overrated in today's recruiting/NIL/Portal - old provincial thinking - a good recruiter can recruit anywhere.


Except CFB rosters across the country show otherwise.

80+% of CFB players are on rosters w/i 400 miles of their home city.

That doesn't change the point that a good recruiter can recruit anywhere, anytime. That was my point. Too many people think you have to have a coach with local ties to recruit Texas - that may have been true 40 years ago - but not anymore. Texas has changed a lot -it is old school provincial thinking to believe otherwise.
Realitybites
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Quote:

Jonathan Smith is someone to watch for next year. He did a great job at Oregon State and got a raw deal at Michigan State.


Can you elaborate on that? Don't really follow Michigan State much.
Adriacus Peratuun
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WA Jim said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

WA Jim said:

Realitybites said:

#1 is the real sticking point.

Traylor is the only one I can think of on that list who hasn't already taken another job.

Maybe Newberry from Navy.

Otherwise Mullen (UNLV), Eck (UNM), Rolovich (Cal), Rogers (Washington State).

I don't know if any of them are natural Texas recruiters.

Leadership has really left the football program in dire straits. We've gone from one of the 3 premier football programs in the state to probably fifth in the Central-North Texas region. Nobody is abandoning an SEC, Big 10, other Big 12, or probably even an ACC job to come to Baylor. So we're either going to have to look at AAC, Mac, MWC coaches or take a gamble on another coordinator.

The recruiting thing/local ties is overrated in today's recruiting/NIL/Portal - old provincial thinking - a good recruiter can recruit anywhere.


Except CFB rosters across the country show otherwise.

80+% of CFB players are on rosters w/i 400 miles of their home city.

That doesn't change the point that a good recruiter can recruit anywhere, anytime. That was my point. Too many people think you have to have a coach with local ties to recruit Texas - that may have been true 40 years ago - but not anymore. Texas has changed a lot -it is old school provincial thinking to believe otherwise.


Strange…..when UT, Tech, ATM, SMU, TCU and even Baylor hired recruiting type ACs it was almost exclusively Texas natives.

But why believe our eyes and the data when we have you to tell us what reality actually exists.

Baylor examples: Hall and Powledge

Premier example: Samples

Want into Texas for recruiting? Hire a Texas guy.
That choice has been the methodology for years.
But clearly you know better.

PartyBear
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Benjamin Franklin is now everyone's top recruiter. The college sports world is different now.
Adriacus Peratuun
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PartyBear said:

Benjamin Franklin is now everyone's top recruiter. The college sports world is different now.


Yes. But as the market sets value, some aspect has to differentiate offers.

If one school doubles bids they likely win. But if every school
offers some similar version of $X, another factor will prevail.

Unless you are suggesting Baylor (or competitors) can moneywhip recruits, the need for a differentiator remains unchanged. Baylor clearly can't moneywhip…..we need to win most 50/50 battles.
Harrison Bergeron
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Bearknuckle said:

His name is Eric Morris and we missed that boat, unfortunately.

Beat me to it ... guessing Morris may be the best hire of this cycle.
WA Jim
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

WA Jim said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

WA Jim said:

Realitybites said:

#1 is the real sticking point.

Traylor is the only one I can think of on that list who hasn't already taken another job.

Maybe Newberry from Navy.

Otherwise Mullen (UNLV), Eck (UNM), Rolovich (Cal), Rogers (Washington State).

I don't know if any of them are natural Texas recruiters.

Leadership has really left the football program in dire straits. We've gone from one of the 3 premier football programs in the state to probably fifth in the Central-North Texas region. Nobody is abandoning an SEC, Big 10, other Big 12, or probably even an ACC job to come to Baylor. So we're either going to have to look at AAC, Mac, MWC coaches or take a gamble on another coordinator.

The recruiting thing/local ties is overrated in today's recruiting/NIL/Portal - old provincial thinking - a good recruiter can recruit anywhere.


Except CFB rosters across the country show otherwise.

80+% of CFB players are on rosters w/i 400 miles of their home city.

That doesn't change the point that a good recruiter can recruit anywhere, anytime. That was my point. Too many people think you have to have a coach with local ties to recruit Texas - that may have been true 40 years ago - but not anymore. Texas has changed a lot -it is old school provincial thinking to believe otherwise.


Strange…..when UT, Tech, ATM, SMU, TCU and even Baylor hired recruiting type ACs it was almost exclusively Texas natives.

But why believe our eyes and the data when we have you to tell us what reality actually exists.

Baylor examples: Hall and Powledge

Premier example: Samples

Want into Texas for recruiting? Hire a Texas guy.
That choice has been the methodology for years.
But clearly you know better.



Whatever, I'm talking about the HC not ACs
muddybrazos
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Bearknuckle said:

His name is Eric Morris and we missed that boat, unfortunately.

Beat me to it ... guessing Morris may be the best hire of this cycle.

Probably so and the worst part is he wanted Baylor over OSU.
Aliceinbubbleland
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muddybrazos said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Bearknuckle said:

His name is Eric Morris and we missed that boat, unfortunately.

Beat me to it ... guessing Morris may be the best hire of this cycle.

Probably so and the worst part is he wanted Baylor over OSU.

You sure about that? Where'd you hear other than on these boards?
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

1) recruit Texas effectively. Specifically East Texas, Golden Triangle, DFW, Greater Houston & CenTex.
can find talent others miss.

2) develop talent. Also find a S&C coach who can build grown men.

3) scheme to the available talent instead of trying to pound square pegs into round holes.

4) innovate on offense. Make Ds defend the entire field.

5) connect to players at a level that builds loyalty.

6) can communicate to the fanbase.

7) has a visible energy level.

8) develop a team that comes out punching.

9) assist in rebuilding trust with jaded BMDs.

10) brand builder.

11) toughness builder, especially with D.

12) proactive not reactive.

13) every ounce of their being screams Texan.

14) sweats the minor details.

15) hires a talented and tireless staff and leads them.

16) admin would not dare to interfere on sidelines.

17) sees the possibility of Baylor.

18) recognizes what Baylor already has in facilities, location, unique character, etc.

19) self starter

20) has an edge, more edge, large supply of edge.

Eric Morris was the best option. Jeff Traylor does all of these. Just coming off an average season.
muddybrazos
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

muddybrazos said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Bearknuckle said:

His name is Eric Morris and we missed that boat, unfortunately.

Beat me to it ... guessing Morris may be the best hire of this cycle.

Probably so and the worst part is he wanted Baylor over OSU.

You sure about that? Where'd you hear other than on these boards?

I heard it on the 247 board from someone who knows more BMDs than me. He preferred us over the pokes but we were not coming open. It makes sense from a location standpoint.
blackie
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muddybrazos said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

muddybrazos said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Bearknuckle said:

His name is Eric Morris and we missed that boat, unfortunately.

Beat me to it ... guessing Morris may be the best hire of this cycle.

Probably so and the worst part is he wanted Baylor over OSU.

You sure about that? Where'd you hear other than on these boards?

I heard it on the 247 board from someone who knows more BMDs than me. He preferred us over the pokes but we were not coming open. It makes sense from a location standpoint.

We may have wanted him too. But if the money ain't there, it ain't there and I believe that is the problem. We can't buyout Aranda and whatever buyouts would be needed for assistants, pay any buyout the new coach would have from his old school, pay for a new athletic director and still have excess money left over for NIL beyond what we have to provide to athletes for the new guy to have any kind of a chance to get a roster that is any improvement over what we already have. We might could do some of that, but not all.

If the above is true it doesn't matter where Morris wanted to go. We will get to see however, if he works out, wonderful for them or is he the next Tom Herman (his team performance, not his personal demeanor) that everyone was falling over themselves to try to get and those that didn't later counted their lucky stars

The thing I don't like about it is that we will probably never know the complete story as to the whys and why nots.
Aliceinbubbleland
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I think your reasoning is closest to correct. BMD's moved on. Thank you Jeffrey.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
Reverend
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There's a lot of work to be done by our new AD. Otherwise, we'll have exactly the same money problems next year.
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Robert Wilson said:

Eck and Mullen would be near the top of my list. Both proven head coaches and both builders.

These two would both be on my list, along with Sean Lewis at San Diego State and Jeff Traylor, who I still think would thrive with our resources.
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Realitybites said:

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Jonathan Smith is someone to watch for next year. He did a great job at Oregon State and got a raw deal at Michigan State.


Can you elaborate on that? Don't really follow Michigan State much.

I mean, I'm not tied into Michigan State athletics, but I liked what Tom Izzo said about him post-firing. He didn't even get 2 years to build something. New AD came in and pulled the plug.

I followed Smith's time at Oregon St. and liked how he built that program up where they had a preseason ranking. That's unheard of. 4-year starter at QB, offensively they were really good.
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TeamPlayer said:

Realitybites said:

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Jonathan Smith is someone to watch for next year. He did a great job at Oregon State and got a raw deal at Michigan State.


Can you elaborate on that? Don't really follow Michigan State much.

I mean, I'm not tied into Michigan State athletics, but I liked what Tom Izzo said about him post-firing. He didn't even get 2 years to build something. New AD came in and pulled the plug.

I followed Smith's time at Oregon St. and liked how he built that program up where they had a preseason ranking. That's unheard of. 4-year starter at QB, offensively they were really good.

Briles issues and MSU issues. Constant problems seemed to have rubbed off on both athletic programs after they played in Cotton Bowl.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

TeamPlayer said:

Realitybites said:

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Jonathan Smith is someone to watch for next year. He did a great job at Oregon State and got a raw deal at Michigan State.


Can you elaborate on that? Don't really follow Michigan State much.

I mean, I'm not tied into Michigan State athletics, but I liked what Tom Izzo said about him post-firing. He didn't even get 2 years to build something. New AD came in and pulled the plug.

I followed Smith's time at Oregon St. and liked how he built that program up where they had a preseason ranking. That's unheard of. 4-year starter at QB, offensively they were really good.

Briles issues and MSU issues. Constant problems seemed to have rubbed off on both athletic programs after they played in Cotton Bowl.

rubbing off was part of the problem for sure
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In all seriousness, I still like Jimmy Rogers from Washington State, Eck from New Mexico, Huff from Southern Miss, and Sean Lewis from SDSU. Those are the best up-and-coming coaches that would be realistically attainable
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