CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

I agree 100 percent, but who would want to come in for just one year? Also a possibility that Dave doesnt last the whole season.

BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

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Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

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Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

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For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

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Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

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For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

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Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

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For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

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I think Spav will have another P4 coordinator job when he leaves Baylor, whether it's this offseason or next.

As frustratingly inconsistent as his unit could be this season, largely because of an unreliable running game, Spavital's offense still ranked 30th in SP+. It wasn't our problem this season.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

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Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

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For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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How do you account for our lack of production in the red zone ? We put up big numbers all season except when we got inside the 20. Maybe his play design or play calls had something to do with that ??

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

---

How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

---

Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

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I think Spav will have another P4 coordinator job when he leaves Baylor, whether it's this offseason or next.

As frustratingly inconsistent as his unit could be this season, largely because of an unreliable running game, Spavital's offense still ranked 30th in SP+. It wasn't our problem this season.

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I didn't see a number.

We most definitely need a new defensive coordinator. We currently have two. Both need to go.

We will fire Powledge and then hire internally.

I am not advocating for it, so don't jump off the ledge, but nothing has been said that Aranda would only be here for one more year. All that has been said is that he is being retained and that the new AD will make decisions on the program going forward. We don't know who has been told what beyond that. Him being gone next year or even next week is an assumption generated on this board and not stated by anyone having any control over the situation.

As far as a DC, if you offer enough you can get someone and if they are that good, they would have no problem moving on if need be the next season. Lots of up and comers in all professions have no problem staying somewhere for just a year. BUT....as someone said, all evidence of this fiasco thus far points to the fact that we do not have the money to do much of anything until a new AD can work miracles with the pocketbooks of wherever our money comes from.

BEAR 45 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

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Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

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For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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How do you account for our lack of production in the red zone ? We put up big numbers all season except when we got inside the 20. Maybe his play design or play calls had something to do with that ??

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We couldn't run the football reliably or consistently. Teams that can't run the football move the ball well between the 20s and bog down when the field condenses and makes passing the ball more difficult.

That's been the quintessential problem/concern of basically every Air Raid offense ever.

I agree with Blackie and I said this somewhere else. Something is weird. There has been no announcement of any defensive staff changes which I thought would be obviously made. I agree with the OP regarding getting a top DC and I would have thought some vacancies would be announced by now. However maybe he is waiting for after the December signing day.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

---

How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

---

Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

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I think Spav will have another P4 coordinator job when he leaves Baylor, whether it's this offseason or next.

As frustratingly inconsistent as his unit could be this season, largely because of an unreliable running game, Spavital's offense still ranked 30th in SP+. It wasn't our problem this season.

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I didn't see a number.

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And you're not going to. I'm not playing stupid games I never agreed to play.

Outside of his failed head coaching tenure at Texas State, Spavital has been a power conference OC for over 10 years now. I expect that to continue when his time at Baylor is done. If you disagree, say so and give your reasons.

BEAR 45 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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How do you account for our lack of production in the red zone ? We put up big numbers all season except when we got inside the 20. Maybe his play design or play calls had something to do with that ??

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Dawson Pendergrass

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

---

How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

---

Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

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I think Spav will have another P4 coordinator job when he leaves Baylor, whether it's this offseason or next.

As frustratingly inconsistent as his unit could be this season, largely because of an unreliable running game, Spavital's offense still ranked 30th in SP+. It wasn't our problem this season.

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I didn't see a number.

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And you're not going to. I'm not playing stupid games I never agreed to play.

Outside of his failed head coaching tenure at Texas State, Spavital has been a power conference OC for over 10 years now. I expect that to continue when his time at Baylor is done. If you disagree, say so and give your reasons.

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Triggered when asked to indicate likelihood with specificity. Interesting.

Spavital is yesterday's flavor. ATM to Cal to Baylor is not trending upward. Wish it were but it isn't.

The retread tendency has shrunk. People are hiring young guns more than retreads. Retreads are using Analyst jobs to rehabilitate their reputations. There are Spavital types than openings and most of those openings are not shopping in the retread aisle.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

---

How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

---

Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

---

Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

---

I think Spav will have another P4 coordinator job when he leaves Baylor, whether it's this offseason or next.

As frustratingly inconsistent as his unit could be this season, largely because of an unreliable running game, Spavital's offense still ranked 30th in SP+. It wasn't our problem this season.

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I didn't see a number.

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And you're not going to. I'm not playing stupid games I never agreed to play.

Outside of his failed head coaching tenure at Texas State, Spavital has been a power conference OC for over 10 years now. I expect that to continue when his time at Baylor is done. If you disagree, say so and give your reasons.

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Triggered when asked to indicate likelihood with specificity. Interesting.

Spavital is yesterday's flavor. ATM to Cal to Baylor is not trending upward. Wish it were but it isn't.

The retread tendency has shrunk. People are hiring young guns more than retreads. Retreads are using Analyst jobs to rehabilitate their reputations. There are Spavital types than openings and most of those openings are not shopping in the retread aisle.

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I'm not triggered. I just acknowledge that neither you nor I could answer the question you're asking with any degree of accuracy, and I don't find it a worthwhile endeavor to try.

I think Spavital will 100 percent be a P4 offensive coordinator again after his Baylor tenure is over. If that's not a satisfactory answer for you, that's on you.

I would also think about getting a new Strength & conditioning coach.

BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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Mark Stoops.

Perfectly positioned to step in as the interim when Dave gets fired.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

---

How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

---

Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

---

Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

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I think Spav will have another P4 coordinator job when he leaves Baylor, whether it's this offseason or next.

As frustratingly inconsistent as his unit could be this season, largely because of an unreliable running game, Spavital's offense still ranked 30th in SP+. It wasn't our problem this season.

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I didn't see a number.

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And you're not going to. I'm not playing stupid games I never agreed to play.

Outside of his failed head coaching tenure at Texas State, Spavital has been a power conference OC for over 10 years now. I expect that to continue when his time at Baylor is done. If you disagree, say so and give your reasons.

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Triggered when asked to indicate likelihood with specificity. Interesting.

Spavital is yesterday's flavor. ATM to Cal to Baylor is not trending upward. Wish it were but it isn't.

The retread tendency has shrunk. People are hiring young guns more than retreads. Retreads are using Analyst jobs to rehabilitate their reputations. There are Spavital types than openings and most of those openings are not shopping in the retread aisle.

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I'm not triggered. I just acknowledge that neither you nor I could answer the question you're asking with any degree of accuracy, and I don't find it a worthwhile endeavor to try.

I think Spavital will 100 percent be a P4 offensive coordinator again after his Baylor tenure is over. If that's not a satisfactory answer for you, that's on you.

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These boards slay me.

Would love a new DC for Christmas. Jim Knowles might be in need of a job depending on the new head coach. Someone would have to stroke a serious check for that.

We could roll the dice with an FCS or D-II/III pick. Someone from a lower level might want the resume boost and new connections and be willing to step into a likely one year deal. Dave Clawson (Richmond) hopped on board the sinking Philip Fulmer ship as OC and ended up having a pretty solid career after.

To my thinking, Spavital could be designated the interim head coach, which:

--Makes sure we keep him and may offset departures by others who we should keep
--Might help keep recruits
--Gives Spav an aspiration to become permanent in that spot but does not lock it in
--Allows potential hiring of a new HC before next season
--Provides greater leeway to hire a new DC

BearlyBeloved said:

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To my thinking, Spavital could be designated the interim head coach, which:

--Makes sure we keep him and may offset departures by others who we should keep
--Might help keep recruits
--Gives Spav an aspiration to become permanent in that spot but does not lock it in
--Allows potential hiring of a new HC before next season
--Provides greater leeway to hire a new DC

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I could roll with that. Go find a crusty old school DC that can instill the grit back into our defense (think Phil Snow) and see where it goes. If it doesn't work out then pull the plug and start the complete rebuild in 2027. 2026 is apparently a lame duck throw away season anyway, what could it hurt? Demote Diamond Ave to Honorary HC and strip him of all duties if we're trying to avoid the buyout. He'd TECHNICALLY still be the HC so no litigation…maybe.

bear2be2 said:

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BEAR 45 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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How do you account for our lack of production in the red zone ? We put up big numbers all season except when we got inside the 20. Maybe his play design or play calls had something to do with that ??

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We couldn't run the football reliably or consistently. Teams that can't run the football move the ball well between the 20s and bog down when the field condenses and makes passing the ball more difficult.

That's been the quintessential problem/concern of basically every Air Raid offense ever.

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Baylor does not run an air raid offense. Spav's typical call, run twice for no gain and then throw a fade to the corner of the end zone to our shortest receiver. He cannot isolate a 6'5" tight end, that is more of a wide receiver than tight end, on a linebacker in the red zone ?

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Hell...at this point I'd settle for a non-premier DC.

We finished the year 122nd in Scoring Defense. It really can't get much worse.

If we aren't making a change at HC I'd be fine rolling the dice on an unproven and hungry DC from G5 and just see what happens. Really not much risk at this point between another year of Dave as DC or a rando. At least it would provide a little more intrigue with it being something different for the upcoming season.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

---

Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

---

For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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Likelihood any team hires him away from Baylor…….simply provide a % estimate.

the market is the best indicator of value.

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I think Spav will have another P4 coordinator job when he leaves Baylor, whether it's this offseason or next.

As frustratingly inconsistent as his unit could be this season, largely because of an unreliable running game, Spavital's offense still ranked 30th in SP+. It wasn't our problem this season.

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I didn't see a number.

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And you're not going to. I'm not playing stupid games I never agreed to play.

Outside of his failed head coaching tenure at Texas State, Spavital has been a power conference OC for over 10 years now. I expect that to continue when his time at Baylor is done. If you disagree, say so and give your reasons.

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Triggered when asked to indicate likelihood with specificity. Interesting.

Spavital is yesterday's flavor. ATM to Cal to Baylor is not trending upward. Wish it were but it isn't.

The retread tendency has shrunk. People are hiring young guns more than retreads. Retreads are using Analyst jobs to rehabilitate their reputations. There are Spavital types than openings and most of those openings are not shopping in the retread aisle.

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I'm not triggered. I just acknowledge that neither you nor I could answer the question you're asking with any degree of accuracy, and I don't find it a worthwhile endeavor to try.

I think Spavital will 100 percent be a P4 offensive coordinator again after his Baylor tenure is over. If that's not a satisfactory answer for you, that's on you.

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These boards slay me.

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You asked for a percentage that he gets hired away from Baylor. I have no interest in taking your bait/playing your game.

I think he'll be a P4 OC again after his Baylor tenure is over, whether that's this offseason or after Aranda is fired.

If you can't understand the distinction there, again, that's on you.

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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How often do premier employees willingly board a sinking ship?

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Spavital did it in 2024. But we had the money to go out and hire him. This time around, it seems like a straight punt until the new AD arrives, so I'm guessing we're not going to be money-whipping any new staff additions.

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Note the use of the word "premier".

Think it is safe to assume that most premier OCs don't treat the Red Zone like their routine implosion place.

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For all of his issues this season, Spavital is a very well-thought-of offensive coordinator who has been very successful in that role throughout his career.

We would be lucky to attract a similar talent to coordinate the defense next season, which is my point. The odds of that happening are slim to none, given that we're likely not dealing with the same resources this time around.

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How do you account for our lack of production in the red zone ? We put up big numbers all season except when we got inside the 20. Maybe his play design or play calls had something to do with that ??

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We couldn't run the football reliably or consistently. Teams that can't run the football move the ball well between the 20s and bog down when the field condenses and makes passing the ball more difficult.

That's been the quintessential problem/concern of basically every Air Raid offense ever.

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Baylor does not run an air raid offense. Spav's typical call, run twice for no gain and then throw a fade to the corner of the end zone to our shortest receiver. He cannot isolate a 6'5" tight end, that is more of a wide receiver than tight end, on a linebacker in the red zone ?

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Spav comes from the Air Raid tree. When his run game is working, he leans on the power run game. When it doesn't, he falls back on his Air Raid roots, which is why we averaged 11 more pass attempts per game this season than last.

Our red zone offense sucked because our run game sucked. You can't score consistently in the red zone when you can't run the ball reliably. And this year's team couldn't. That was apparent in the Auburn game and never changed for 12 games.

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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Mark Stoops.

Perfectly positioned to step in as the interim when Dave gets fired.

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We already hired away a head coach from Kentucky. It did not work. Or don't people remember?

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BearlyBeloved said:

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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Mark Stoops.

Perfectly positioned to step in as the interim when Dave gets fired.

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We already hired away a head coach from Kentucky. It did not work. Or don't people remember?

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He was a vast improvement over the guy he replaced tho.

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We already hired away a head coach from Kentucky. It did not work. Or don't people remember?

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What's the Wall Street disclaimer? "Past performance is no guarantee of future results."

If we're going to be firing Dave next year and turning the team over to one of his coordinators, better the winningest football coach in UK history than an unknown quantity.

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To my thinking, Spavital could be designated the interim head coach, which:

--Makes sure we keep him and may offset departures by others who we should keep
--Might help keep recruits
--Gives Spav an aspiration to become permanent in that spot but does not lock it in
--Allows potential hiring of a new HC before next season
--Provides greater leeway to hire a new DC

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I could roll with that. Go find a crusty old school DC that can instill the grit back into our defense (think Phil Snow) and see where it goes. If it doesn't work out then pull the plug and start the complete rebuild in 2027. 2026 is apparently a lame duck throw away season anyway, what could it hurt? Demote Diamond Ave to Honorary HC and strip him of all duties if we're trying to avoid the buyout. He'd TECHNICALLY still be the HC so no litigation…maybe.

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Not a bad idea!

The answer is Mark Stoops. He will also be a perfect fit to take over the interim role in week 6 next season when Aranda is let go.

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CDA's effort to be HC and DC flopped.

With CDA set to return next year, shouldn't we be focused on finding a premier candidate for defensive coordinator???

Who should be the candidates?

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Mark Stoops.

Perfectly positioned to step in as the interim when Dave gets fired.

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We already hired away a head coach from Kentucky. It did not work. Or don't people remember?

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I don't get why the name of the latest FIRED coach gets brought up as a candidate every time this situation come up. It doesn't matter what he did when he first got there. His performance has trailed off or he woudn't have gotten fired.