boognish_bear said:

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johnnychimpo said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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... names I'm hearing search firm may have identified.

Dickey at Boise.

Wren Baker at West Virginia (former UNT AD)

Yurachek at Arkansas.

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I'll never understand why people continue to line the pockets of search firms to regurgitate the same names that everyone and their mom can easily put together.


Like fortune 100 companies paying 100s of millions to consultants to help them get control of their costs and spending all for them to just tell them to lay off x amount of people at the same cost savings they just paid out to the consultants.

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So johnnychimpino... what would you say you do around here?

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johnnychimpo said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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... names I'm hearing search firm may have identified.

Dickey at Boise.

Wren Baker at West Virginia (former UNT AD)

Yurachek at Arkansas.

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I'll never understand why people continue to line the pockets of search firms to regurgitate the same names that everyone and their mom can easily put together.


Like fortune 100 companies paying 100s of millions to consultants to help them get control of their costs and spending all for them to just tell them to lay off x amount of people at the same cost savings they just paid out to the consultants.

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This...sad thing is that these are often times top notch MBA grads. If you can't figure out how to lead the business efficiently and drive margins up then maybe you shouldn't serve in that sr. mgmt/exec role.

I think most that don't have $200K MBAs or so much as one at all have done just fine for themselves. I hate the huge push for grad school in general as the only alleged way to achieve one's goals. Graduate degrees today feel just as common as bachelors just 30 or less short years ago; thus making undergrad papers effectively valueless. Maybe for some they fear that they won't get a perfect GMAT and into the program of their choice so they never take it. Or they don't want massive busy work case study papers like a dissertation.

It's disheartening- feels like 90+% of non manager roles in Texas expect a Masters at large companies. Especially in energy.

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— Baylor Football (@BUFootball) December 13, 2025

Colorado is targeting New Mexico AD Fernando Lovo in its athletic director search, sources tell @YahooSports. No deal is finalized and UC Board of Regents must authorize any move.

Lovo spent the last year at UNM after stints at Texas, Ohio State and Houston.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) December 28, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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The last sentence in this clip...

"as far as our athletic departments are concerned... success for us looks like did we deliver a great experience to our fans regardless if we win or lose."

I think the "great experience" part for fans is winning more often than losing.

Ultimate fan experience. pic.twitter.com/49J3oeXvOF

— Baylor Athletics (@BaylorAthletics) December 8, 2025

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What is the "great experience" for fans going to be?

Maybe time warp back to early 2000s where women's bball was our calling card

Not sure which was most impressive...

Taliah's shot
DSmith being unaffected by the towel
Or how calm Lori is https://t.co/T6cbNG0daA

— Doug McNamee (@DougMcNameeBU) January 5, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The last sentence in this clip...

"as far as our athletic departments are concerned... success for us looks like did we deliver a great experience to our fans regardless if we win or lose."

I think the "great experience" part for fans is winning more often than losing.

Ultimate fan experience. pic.twitter.com/49J3oeXvOF

— Baylor Athletics (@BaylorAthletics) December 8, 2025

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What is the "great experience" for fans going to be?

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Years ago, my son and I would decide an hour before kickoff to go to a game. We had no tickets so we'd go to Wendy's and each get a meal deal and upgrade it with Frosty. The Frosty was the key that allowed us to purchase $5 general admission tickets. Halfway through the second quarter there were plenty of empty seats and we would move to between the 35s.

Those were great experiences for us. We still talk about them when we talk about Dave's contract extension and that stupid letter from Linda.

Bad and broke can be fun, trust me.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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boognish_bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The last sentence in this clip...

"as far as our athletic departments are concerned... success for us looks like did we deliver a great experience to our fans regardless if we win or lose."

I think the "great experience" part for fans is winning more often than losing.

Ultimate fan experience. pic.twitter.com/49J3oeXvOF

— Baylor Athletics (@BaylorAthletics) December 8, 2025

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What is the "great experience" for fans going to be?

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Years ago, my son and I would decide an hour before kickoff to go to a game. We had no tickets so we'd go to Wendy's and each get a meal deal and upgrade it with Frosty. The Frosty was the key that allowed us to purchase $5 general admission tickets. Halfway through the second quarter there were plenty of empty seats and we would move to between the 35s.

Those were great experiences for us. We still talk about them when we talk about Dave's contract extension and that stupid letter from Linda.

Bad and broke can be fun, trust me.

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Great post! So are you saying great seats should be available in 2nd quarter of most every home game this year? I have finally found something to look forward to next season! Thanks

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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boognish_bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The last sentence in this clip...

"as far as our athletic departments are concerned... success for us looks like did we deliver a great experience to our fans regardless if we win or lose."

I think the "great experience" part for fans is winning more often than losing.

Ultimate fan experience. pic.twitter.com/49J3oeXvOF

— Baylor Athletics (@BaylorAthletics) December 8, 2025

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What is the "great experience" for fans going to be?

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Years ago, my son and I would decide an hour before kickoff to go to a game. We had no tickets so we'd go to Wendy's and each get a meal deal and upgrade it with Frosty. The Frosty was the key that allowed us to purchase $5 general admission tickets. Halfway through the second quarter there were plenty of empty seats and we would move to between the 35s.

Those were great experiences for us. We still talk about them when we talk about Dave's contract extension and that stupid letter from Linda.

Bad and broke can be fun, trust me.

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Great post! So are you saying great seats should be available in 2nd quarter of most every home game this year? I have finally found something to look forward to next season! Thanks

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Doug and Wendy may still be hammering out the details but I'm optimistic.

My season tickets before I actually got season tickets.

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My season tickets before I actually got season tickets.

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Yep

boognish_bear said:

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Maybe time warp back to early 2000s where women's bball was our calling card

Not sure which was most impressive...

Taliah's shot
DSmith being unaffected by the towel
Or how calm Lori is https://t.co/T6cbNG0daA

— Doug McNamee (@DougMcNameeBU) January 5, 2026

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No blas. Can he call play by play for BU football, too? Pretty please????????

Agreed. People won't choose to spend their money at a restaurant with a good atmosphere and ****ty food.

Set up the big 4 sports to be competitive and the rest will work itself out.

boognish_bear said:

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Fans want winning teams and competitive teams...then the enjoyment takes care of itself

Baylor Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Doug McNamee on putting the fans first. #SicEm 🐻 pic.twitter.com/DbhQRI8uqc

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) February 16, 2026

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I think that winning teams are a necessary, but not a sufficient, part of fan enjoyment. It is the MOST important ingredient, but not the only one. For example, CDA's first season with a Big XII championship was amazing and wonderful...and the new tailgate scene was still a horrible mistake.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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boognish_bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The last sentence in this clip...

"as far as our athletic departments are concerned... success for us looks like did we deliver a great experience to our fans regardless if we win or lose."

I think the "great experience" part for fans is winning more often than losing.

Ultimate fan experience. pic.twitter.com/49J3oeXvOF

— Baylor Athletics (@BaylorAthletics) December 8, 2025

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What is the "great experience" for fans going to be?

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Years ago, my son and I would decide an hour before kickoff to go to a game. We had no tickets so we'd go to Wendy's and each get a meal deal and upgrade it with Frosty. The Frosty was the key that allowed us to purchase $5 general admission tickets. Halfway through the second quarter there were plenty of empty seats and we would move to between the 35s.

Those were great experiences for us. We still talk about them when we talk about Dave's contract extension and that stupid letter from Linda.

Bad and broke can be fun, trust me.

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Reminds me of days at Wrigley Field in the 70s. Just show up. Buy the cheapest ticket and migrate to the big shrimp seats.

drahthaar said:

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Fans want winning teams and competitive teams...then the enjoyment takes care of itself

Baylor Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Doug McNamee on putting the fans first. #SicEm 🐻 pic.twitter.com/DbhQRI8uqc

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) February 16, 2026

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I think that winning teams are a necessary, but not a sufficient, part of fan enjoyment. It is the MOST important ingredient, but not the only one. For example, CDA's first season with a Big XII championship was amazing and wonderful...and the new tailgate scene was still a horrible mistake.

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No doubt the "fan experience" is multifaceted, but the foundational components are winning consistently and cost to participate in the circus. Get those "right" and folks will tolerate most of the rest, and will give leadership time to correct the remainder of issues. We've proven that losing, inept/inconsistent play and expense are poor "loss-leaders".

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I agree with you completely. But I also think it is appropriate to hold AD's to account for other aspects of the fan experience even if they are winning.

I think Mack had a very pri*kly relationship with the fans, even when the programs were winning. He made some serious errors in fan engagement. Ian, for all of his many faults, took good advantage of the football success to create a great tailgating experience, and the school really leaned into sailgating in a positive way. When Mack came along, he really mucked it up - wanted it outsourced so he could get to his "real job" of managing the coaches and programs and raising money.

drahthaar said:

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Fans want winning teams and competitive teams...then the enjoyment takes care of itself

Baylor Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Doug McNamee on putting the fans first. #SicEm 🐻 pic.twitter.com/DbhQRI8uqc

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) February 16, 2026

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I think that winning teams are a necessary, but not a sufficient, part of fan enjoyment. It is the MOST important ingredient, but not the only one. For example, CDA's first season with a Big XII championship was amazing and wonderful...and the new tailgate scene was still a horrible mistake.

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No doubt the "fan experience" is multifaceted, but the foundational components are winning consistently and cost to participate in the circus. Get those "right" and folks will tolerate most of the rest, and will give leadership time to correct the remainder of issues. We've proven that losing, inept/inconsistent play and expense are poor "loss-leaders".

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the problem for Baylor (and all stadium operators) is that costs have risen while most people's disposable income has not. It's very difficult to offer an 'affordable' experience when travel costs are also a component for most fans.

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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drahthaar said:

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Fans want winning teams and competitive teams...then the enjoyment takes care of itself

Baylor Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Doug McNamee on putting the fans first. #SicEm 🐻 pic.twitter.com/DbhQRI8uqc

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) February 16, 2026

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I think that winning teams are a necessary, but not a sufficient, part of fan enjoyment. It is the MOST important ingredient, but not the only one. For example, CDA's first season with a Big XII championship was amazing and wonderful...and the new tailgate scene was still a horrible mistake.

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No doubt the "fan experience" is multifaceted, but the foundational components are winning consistently and cost to participate in the circus. Get those "right" and folks will tolerate most of the rest, and will give leadership time to correct the remainder of issues. We've proven that losing, inept/inconsistent play and expense are poor "loss-leaders".

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I agree with you completely. But I also think it is appropriate to hold AD's to account for other aspects of the fan experience even if they are winning.

I think Mack had a very pri*kly relationship with the fans, even when the programs were winning. He made some serious errors in fan engagement. Ian, for all of his many faults, took good advantage of the football success to create a great tailgating experience, and the school really leaned into sailgating in a positive way. When Mack came along, he really mucked it up - wanted it outsourced so he could get to his "real job" of managing the coaches and programs and raising money.

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No question on holding an AD responsible no matter the success or lack thereof.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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boognish_bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The last sentence in this clip...

"as far as our athletic departments are concerned... success for us looks like did we deliver a great experience to our fans regardless if we win or lose."

I think the "great experience" part for fans is winning more often than losing.

Ultimate fan experience. pic.twitter.com/49J3oeXvOF

— Baylor Athletics (@BaylorAthletics) December 8, 2025

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What is the "great experience" for fans going to be?

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Years ago, my son and I would decide an hour before kickoff to go to a game. We had no tickets so we'd go to Wendy's and each get a meal deal and upgrade it with Frosty. The Frosty was the key that allowed us to purchase $5 general admission tickets. Halfway through the second quarter there were plenty of empty seats and we would move to between the 35s.

Those were great experiences for us. We still talk about them when we talk about Dave's contract extension and that stupid letter from Linda.

Bad and broke can be fun, trust me.

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You can still watch great football at McLane, it's just the other team that will be playing it.