This can't be true, right.?? Y'all are ginkcuf with us.

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hodedofome said:

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Come on guys it could always be worse. We could have hired the first lesbian AD or something.

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She was probably in top two but didn't attend Columbus.

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Antioch.

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Antioch is not on board with the LGBTQ agenda like the Methodist or Episcopal church.

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Youre a clown said:

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boognish_bear said:

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TenBears said:

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Classic, textbook Baylor move. Baylor is soooooooo Baylor.

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We have rolled the clock back on the program 20 years...

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How exactly? Because we didn't hire Dickey?

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Dickey would have been great...or someone else who's been active in the college game since at least 2021.

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So how are we set back years when this is the guy that the big donors specifically wanted?

Sounds a lot like Trump wrote that letter!!

pedbear1978 said:

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Sounds a lot like Trump wrote that letter!!

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I can guarantee you all of Aranda's buyout he most certainly did not.

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boognish_bear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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boognish_bear said:

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TenBears said:

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Classic, textbook Baylor move. Baylor is soooooooo Baylor.

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We have rolled the clock back on the program 20 years...

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How exactly? Because we didn't hire Dickey?

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Dickey would have been great...or someone else who's been active in the college game since at least 2021.

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So how are we set back years when this is the guy that the big donors specifically wanted?

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We don't know that donors piece for sure yet… but if true and he motivates them then that's a definite plus.

Our program is already trending down and we are currently saddled with a lame duck coach. Bringing in an AD that's been out of the game since 2018 and I am assuming is not currently connected across college athletics makes me nervous we will fall even further back.

I wasn't thrilled at first when we hired Rhule...and that obviously worked out. I'd love to be wrong again... but right now this move feels less than inspiring to me.

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boognish_bear said:

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TenBears said:

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Classic, textbook Baylor move. Baylor is soooooooo Baylor.

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We have rolled the clock back on the program 20 years...

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How exactly? Because we didn't hire Dickey?

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Because we hired a guy who spent most of the last decade running a fishing magazine and a home accessories conglomerate. I mean they didn't even have the decency to go get an active AD who had shown promise running a smaller program.

Hey this hiring was quick so he's got tons of time to hire a real HC now. This new AD would have Baylor nation in total joy if he did can Aranda and bring in a new HC. All he has to say is "why wait another year of losing to know we need new leadership"

From Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/1pg1sig/thamel_sources_baylor_is_finalizing_the_hire_of/

After reading a bit more about this dude, he's certainly an interesting choice. Risky, but with definite upside potential. The one guarantee is that he'll make sure Baylor football stays the Saturday afternoon social outing in Waco, he's wildly connected in Central Texas.

The Field and Stream thing is just a couple years old, his bigger bullet point is that he was the President of Magnolia for a while. If you're confused why Magnolia seemed to get even bigger across the country after Fixer Upper went off the air, and then suddenly got a big section at every Target store, this is the dude you have to thank for that.

He took over Field and Stream, mainly a legacy outdoors magazine that also has some branding deals on equipment at Dick's, and somehow increased readership and revenue from a print media outlet in the 2020s. He was also Baylor's Associate AD covering the Baylor Foundation for his time working at BU, so he's super connected to Baylor's donor base.

Definitely a risky hire in some ways (namely his lack of experience evaluating and hiring coaches), but also a safer hire in a couple ways (primarily his marketing/fundraising success and his connections to the wealthier segments of the alumni base), and I have a sneaking suspicion that this is how we get a new head coach who's in Art Briles' coaching tree without being directly connected to Briles. Someone like Sean Lewis.

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Hey this hiring was quick so he's got tons of time to hire a real HC now. This new AD would have Baylor nation in total joy if he did can Aranda and bring in a new HC. All he has to say is "why wait another year of losing to know we need new leadership"

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He sits next to aranda at church.

Realitybites said:

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Youre a clown said:

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boognish_bear said:

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TenBears said:

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Classic, textbook Baylor move. Baylor is soooooooo Baylor.

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We have rolled the clock back on the program 20 years...

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How exactly? Because we didn't hire Dickey?

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Because we hired a guy who spent most of the last decade running a fishing magazine and a home accessories conglomerate. I mean they didn't even have the decency to go get an active AD who had shown promise running a smaller program.

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This has got to be tremendously financial related or true bonafide candidates flatly told Baylor NO!

hodedofome said:

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To bringing back Briles. McNamee was in the athletic department when Briles was winning championships.

Put it on paper.

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He was also the team manager when Dave Bliss was head coach. But, of course, he saw nothing untoward. Nothing!

Time to bring back Dave Bliss! This Stephen Miller-looking slimeball was around for all of the scandals. What a perfect hire!

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From Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/1pg1sig/thamel_sources_baylor_is_finalizing_the_hire_of/

After reading a bit more about this dude, he's certainly an interesting choice. Risky, but with definite upside potential. The one guarantee is that he'll make sure Baylor football stays the Saturday afternoon social outing in Waco, he's wildly connected in Central Texas.

The Field and Stream thing is just a couple years old, his bigger bullet point is that he was the President of Magnolia for a while. If you're confused why Magnolia seemed to get even bigger across the country after Fixer Upper went off the air, and then suddenly got a big section at every Target store, this is the dude you have to thank for that.

He took over Field and Stream, mainly a legacy outdoors magazine that also has some branding deals on equipment at Dick's, and somehow increased readership and revenue from a print media outlet in the 2020s. He was also Baylor's Associate AD covering the Baylor Foundation for his time working at BU, so he's super connected to Baylor's donor base.

Definitely a risky hire in some ways (namely his lack of experience evaluating and hiring coaches), but also a safer hire in a couple ways (primarily his marketing/fundraising success and his connections to the wealthier segments of the alumni base), and I have a sneaking suspicion that this is how we get a new head coach who's in Art Briles' coaching tree without being directly connected to Briles. Someone like Sean Lewis.

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The vibe I get is we hired a yes man with marching instructions. If he is paid over $250k he is a genius to convince anyone his resume was worth that.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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marigold23 said:

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From Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/1pg1sig/thamel_sources_baylor_is_finalizing_the_hire_of/

After reading a bit more about this dude, he's certainly an interesting choice. Risky, but with definite upside potential. The one guarantee is that he'll make sure Baylor football stays the Saturday afternoon social outing in Waco, he's wildly connected in Central Texas.

The Field and Stream thing is just a couple years old, his bigger bullet point is that he was the President of Magnolia for a while. If you're confused why Magnolia seemed to get even bigger across the country after Fixer Upper went off the air, and then suddenly got a big section at every Target store, this is the dude you have to thank for that.

He took over Field and Stream, mainly a legacy outdoors magazine that also has some branding deals on equipment at Dick's, and somehow increased readership and revenue from a print media outlet in the 2020s. He was also Baylor's Associate AD covering the Baylor Foundation for his time working at BU, so he's super connected to Baylor's donor base.

Definitely a risky hire in some ways (namely his lack of experience evaluating and hiring coaches), but also a safer hire in a couple ways (primarily his marketing/fundraising success and his connections to the wealthier segments of the alumni base), and I have a sneaking suspicion that this is how we get a new head coach who's in Art Briles' coaching tree without being directly connected to Briles. Someone like Sean Lewis.

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The vibe I get is we hired a yes man with marching instructions. If he is paid over $250k he is a genius to convince anyone his resume was worth that.

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Yep! Gotta go with this. Baylor gonna Baylor.

If he fires Aranda Monday, hopefully these naysayers can stop freaking out.

Who would Dougie Poo hire? Obviously as a P4 AD he has a list right?

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Who would Dougie Poo hire? Obviously as a P4 AD he has a list right?

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Just basing this off of LL letter, short leash, all decisions must be approved, saving BU immense amt of contract salary, LL already said Yoda is a lock. He didn't need a list he's got ten-eleven months to familiarize self with hiring process. Yoda is saaaaafffffffeeee.

He doesn't look quite as nerdy as Ian so he maybe he'll be ok?

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Space Cutter said:

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Hey this hiring was quick so he's got tons of time to hire a real HC now. This new AD would have Baylor nation in total joy if he did can Aranda and bring in a new HC. All he has to say is "why wait another year of losing to know we need new leadership"

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He sits next to aranda at church.

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Not true. Dave spends his Sunday mornings in the nursery.

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Art Briles is rightly lauded for the seismic shift he created at Baylor, putting the program on the national map in DI football by winning two Big 12 Conference championships (2013 outright and 2014 shared) and achieving unprecedented heights.

The truth is, the demands of leading a Power Four programthe 18-hour days, year-round recruiting travel, media scrutiny, and high-pressure fundraisingare a brutal, grinding physical and mental toll.

At 70 years old, such a commitment is simply improbable for any major program to ask, making a high-level coaching comeback highly unlikely.

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Trump sleeps 4 hours a day

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Most of it during cabinet meetings.

In all seriousness, don't most universities hire a consulting firm to get them a short list of potential coaching candidates? If that's the case, the AD is basically a fund raiser. Am I wrong? I have a feeling at Baylor everything starts and stops with the all powerful board. When the all powerful board deems Dandy Dave is gone, he'll be gone. It won't be some nerd AD.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Futbol Bear said:

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Art Briles is rightly lauded for the seismic shift he created at Baylor, putting the program on the national map in DI football by winning two Big 12 Conference championships (2013 outright and 2014 shared) and achieving unprecedented heights.

The truth is, the demands of leading a Power Four programthe 18-hour days, year-round recruiting travel, media scrutiny, and high-pressure fundraisingare a brutal, grinding physical and mental toll.

At 70 years old, such a commitment is simply improbable for any major program to ask, making a high-level coaching comeback highly unlikely.

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Trump sleeps 4 hours a day

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Most of it during cabinet meetings.

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It seems several were sleeping during the BOR conference call that brought about this hiring

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Tigerjag said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Futbol Bear said:

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Art Briles is rightly lauded for the seismic shift he created at Baylor, putting the program on the national map in DI football by winning two Big 12 Conference championships (2013 outright and 2014 shared) and achieving unprecedented heights.

The truth is, the demands of leading a Power Four programthe 18-hour days, year-round recruiting travel, media scrutiny, and high-pressure fundraisingare a brutal, grinding physical and mental toll.

At 70 years old, such a commitment is simply improbable for any major program to ask, making a high-level coaching comeback highly unlikely.

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Trump sleeps 4 hours a day

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Most of it during cabinet meetings.

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It seems several were sleeping during the BOR conference call that brought about this hiring

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Asleep? My man most of them were on a beach and didn't even call in.

Good God, we are not serious people. A guy who ran a fishing magazine, Livingstone has officially given up any pretense of caring.

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To bringing back Briles.

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Sometimes I wish this site was like the old BF site, or like surly, because your comment needs to get ***** slapped off the forum and you should get negged into oblivion.

boognish_bear said:

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Never happening

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From a major, acute TDS sufferer. For obvious reasons don't see any w TDS supporting Briles. No doubt excited at some point about Aranda and Linda for DEI reasons.

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hodedofome said:

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To bringing back Briles.

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Sometimes I wish this site was like the old BF site, or like surly, because your comment needs to get ***** slapped off the forum and you should get negged into oblivion.

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Why is it that the Briles haters are the biggest freaking DEI progressives ? This guy defends trans in women's sports, criticizes Riley Gaines and personally insults or probably projects anyone who disagrees with him w trash, low class terminology.

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Good God, we are not serious people. A guy who ran a fishing magazine, Livingstone has officially given up any pretense of caring.

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If NIL is not boosted for Aranda like McGuire has, and consequently has a bad year. I'm going to be right there with the Linda critics in that she and this AD and Aranda all have to go. If he can't boost our NIL by next season near the top of the conference with all these business skills, he will be proven ineffective and Linda would need to go as well.
This move is so unimpressive I thought it was a troll job for the first hour or so.
Again I would love to eat a buffet of crow about this but I'm really afraid I won't have to.

I read online he's for alcohol sales.

I like him already!

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CaliBear00 said:

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Good God, we are not serious people. A guy who ran a fishing magazine, Livingstone has officially given up any pretense of caring.

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If NIL is not boosted for Aranda like McGuire has, and consequently has a bad year. I'm going to be right there with the Linda critics in that she and this AD and Aranda all have to go. If he can't boost our NIL by next season near the top of the conference with all these business skills, he will be proven ineffective and Linda would need to go as well.
This move is so unimpressive I thought it was a troll job for the first hour or so.
Again I would love to eat a buffet of crow about this but I'm really afraid I won't have to.

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Name the billionaire Baylor boosters that might be convinced to spend $20 million per season on a football roster - and convince to spend $20 mil by next season. Our "Cody Campbell" types.

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To bringing back Briles.

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Sometimes I wish this site was like the old BF site, or like surly, because your comment needs to get ***** slapped off the forum and you should get negged into oblivion.

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Why is it that the Briles haters are the biggest freaking DEI progressives ? This guy defends trans in women's sports, criticizes Riley Gaines and personally insults or probably projects anyone who disagrees with him w trash, low class terminology.

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It's 2025. Time to move on from a guy who was fired nearly a DECADE AGO. Why is it that easily-manipulated, chronically online Boomers can't manage to get unstuck from a feedback loop that compels them to regurgitate the same exact right-wing social media talking points? RILEY GAINES. CHARLIE KIRK. TDS. ICE. DEI. Critical Race Theory. NEWSCUM. Demonrats. Crazy Nancy. Thanks, Obama. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

And, no, I don't have TDS. I just find it difficult to support an octogenarian who has already added $10 TRILLION to the national debt, and whom Jeffrey Epstein called, "my best friend for a decade." These are facts but you're the type who won't allow facts to get in the way of your feelings.

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boognish_bear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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TenBears said:

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Classic, textbook Baylor move. Baylor is soooooooo Baylor.

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We have rolled the clock back on the program 20 years...

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How exactly? Because we didn't hire Dickey?

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Dickey would have been great...or someone else who's been active in the college game since at least 2021.

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So how are we set back years when this is the guy that the big donors specifically wanted?

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Son, wheel sea..........

- TOB

D!

What is the source of the claims that the Magazine Salesman/Shiplap Doug is highly popular with the big donor set at Baylor? Is this a case of "insiders" simply making unsubstantiated claims?

Fortunately this hypothesis is testable. Money will come in or it won't, or some will but will be insufficient for the purpose. If we are hiring defensive linemen for $5.1million over three years, then it is true.

My guess is that will never happen.

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What is the source of the claims that the Magazine Salesman/Shiplap Doug is highly popular with the big donor set at Baylor? Is this a case of "insiders" simply making unsubstantiated claims?

Fortunately this hypothesis is testable. Money will come in or it won't, or some will but will be insufficient for the purpose. If we are hiring defensive linemen for $5.1million over three years, then it is true.

My guess is that will never happen.

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Agree. If the claims are true the results should start pouring in quickly and I hope they do. Frankly it should already be starting with his announcement if he is the BMDs man as claimed by some. They don't have to wait for him to move into his office. But this is not an experiment we should spend a lot of time on.