Person over player/JOY

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BUBBFAN
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Karab said:

JOY absolutely should stay. And Drew can stay here til he dies

With what coaches get paid at the P4 level, no one should be untouchable.
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FFA0329 said:

You need help, MAGA idiot. I am so sick of you people. You are all brainwashed, deranged, cruel and arrogant. What have we become? Please go away.

This make me lol. pot calling kettle.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

I don't like overpaying for mediocrity. Do you? I'm
Just calling a spade a spade which this forum tends to avoid.


You're not paying anything. Dude, you're even on the free board.
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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I don't like overpaying for mediocrity. Do you? I'm
Just calling a spade a spade which this forum tends to avoid.


You're not paying anything. Dude, you're even on the free board.

This site is basically a non-consensual group therapy session.
(the preem side is exactly the same in this respect)
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NIL has taken its toll on the basketball program. The program is one and done every year now. Top assistants have moved on to HC gigs. Getting the top players is tougher now that wins have started to dwindle.
boognish_bear
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I understand us not being in position to hang at the higher levels of NIL in football...but we should be able to be competitive in basketball.
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There is no joy in Mudville.
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Robert Wilson said:

All I know is that neither our football team nor our basketball team is fun to watch, and it has become difficult to make yourself go to the games even if you live in Waco, as evidenced by all of the empty seats in McLane and in Foster.

Dave is just simply not a very good head coach. He does not have the skill set.

Drew is a little more puzzling. He won a national championship with a bunch of older, seasoned players, but since then he stocks up on guys that will only be here one or two years. And now we stink. Part of that is the nature of the new environment, but part of that is simply Drew not having the intestinal fortitude to stick with what really worked in the face of his ability to attract some high flying one and done type guys.



Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….
boognish_bear
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Not sure we've seen the "proving" yet

Jacques Strap
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boognish_bear said:

Not sure we've seen the "proving" yet



"Baylor has the money to compete in NIL" contradicts the email from BU President Linda Livingstone and interview with BU's wealthiest BMD Drayton McLane. So, what's the basis for this claim?
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cowboycwr said:

Robert Wilson said:

All I know is that neither our football team nor our basketball team is fun to watch, and it has become difficult to make yourself go to the games even if you live in Waco, as evidenced by all of the empty seats in McLane and in Foster.

Dave is just simply not a very good head coach. He does not have the skill set.

Drew is a little more puzzling. He won a national championship with a bunch of older, seasoned players, but since then he stocks up on guys that will only be here one or two years. And now we stink. Part of that is the nature of the new environment, but part of that is simply Drew not having the intestinal fortitude to stick with what really worked in the face of his ability to attract some high flying one and done type guys.



Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….
Yeah, we're only #14 in the country and in first place in the conference. What moron would enjoy that??
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Mitch Henessey said:

cowboycwr said:

Robert Wilson said:

All I know is that neither our football team nor our basketball team is fun to watch, and it has become difficult to make yourself go to the games even if you live in Waco, as evidenced by all of the empty seats in McLane and in Foster.

Dave is just simply not a very good head coach. He does not have the skill set.

Drew is a little more puzzling. He won a national championship with a bunch of older, seasoned players, but since then he stocks up on guys that will only be here one or two years. And now we stink. Part of that is the nature of the new environment, but part of that is simply Drew not having the intestinal fortitude to stick with what really worked in the face of his ability to attract some high flying one and done type guys.



Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….

Yeah, we're only #14 in the country and in first place in the conference. What moron would enjoy that??

but Kim is doing so much better!!!! (they leave out the part about her 3x NIL budget at LSU)

Nicki is doing a great job but these doods have axes to grind!
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Jacques Strap said:

boognish_bear said:

Not sure we've seen the "proving" yet



"Baylor has the money to compete in NIL" contradicts the email from BU President Linda Livingstone and interview with BU's wealthiest BMD Drayton McLane. So, what's the basis for this claim?

People in power love to lie lie and lie to cover their own skin. They see their customers and supporters as mostly average idiots who can't read past 150 characters.
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boognish_bear said:

Not sure we've seen the "proving" yet




Pure malarkey, and one of the many reasons I dropped my premium subscription. We are getting bent over backwards by the biggest spenders in basically every sport. We were able to secure some separate funding to get DJ Lagway because of his familial connections, but overall, our football transfer class is mediocre. I don't follow basketball recruiting all that closely, but I believe we got blown out by Kansas and Texas Tech who I know are very big spenders in basketball.
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Jacques Strap said:

boognish_bear said:

Not sure we've seen the "proving" yet



"Baylor has the money to compete in NIL" contradicts the email from BU President Linda Livingstone and interview with BU's wealthiest BMD Drayton McLane. So, what's the basis for this claim?


The proof is in the pudding. Whole lot of damage control and PR word salading going on right now because of the decision to retain Dave
canoso
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boognish_bear said:

I understand us not being in position to hang at the higher levels of NIL in football...but we should be able to be competitive in basketball.

Check Indiana's NIL total going into this just-finished season. It's a wake-up call.
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AI generated so consider the source....

Others of Note
Texas Tech 28 million
Ohio State $20 million to $35 million+
Oregon $23 million to over $26 million
Texas between $35 million and $40 million
Texas A&M athletes received a total of $51.4 million in NIL compensation from July 2024 to June 2025, according to reports. Of this, approximately $49.2 million was directed toward men's sports, with the overwhelming majority dedicated to securing top-tier talent for the football team. This figure represents a massive, nearly threefold increase from the previous academic year.

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AI Overview

Indiana University spent an estimated
$21.1 million on football Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) for the 2025 college football season, according to reports. This investment placed the Hoosiers among the top programs in player spending, with their total roster cost for the season exceeding $20 million.
  • Significant Investment: The $21.1 million figure reflects a massive, competitive push, often cited in comparisons with elite programs.
  • Context: While not publicly confirmed, this estimated amount, highlighted by Yahoo Sports and Instagram, indicates a high-level, donor-backed effort to build a competitive roster under Head Coach Curt Cignetti.
  • Player Valuations: The high spending was reflected in individual player valuations, with reports citing high-value deals for key contributors like quarterback Fernando Mendoza.
The spending was largely facilitated by NIL collectives such as Hoosiers For Good and Hoosiers Connect.



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AI Overview

Based on September 2025 reports, Baylor Football's NIL budget for the 2025 season has increased significantly, with estimates placing their available funds around

$15 million. This substantial rise allowed the team to secure a large transfer portal class, reflecting a shift from lower, earlier-year NIL, spending towards a highly competitive, million-dollar, roster-wide structure.

Key Details on Baylor NIL Spending:
  • Budget Growth: The program increased its efforts to roughly $15 million, enabling the signing of a large transfer portal class of 24 players, nearly equaling the total from the previous three years.
  • Partnership: The team relies on a roster-wide NIL deal with Startup Waco, which offers opportunities for all players, including walk-ons, to earn, potential amounts, into the five-figure range.
  • Context: This $15 million figure places them in a more competitive position within the Big 12, though still below top-spending schools like Texas, which was projected to spend over $35 million.
Note: NIL data for 2025 is often estimated and subject to rapid change.

Youre a clown
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Jacques Strap said:

AI generated so consider the source....

Others of Note
Texas Tech 28 million
Ohio State $20 million to $35 million+
Oregon $23 million to over $26 million
Texas between $35 million and $40 million
Texas A&M athletes received a total of $51.4 million in NIL compensation from July 2024 to June 2025, according to reports. Of this, approximately $49.2 million was directed toward men's sports, with the overwhelming majority dedicated to securing top-tier talent for the football team. This figure represents a massive, nearly threefold increase from the previous academic year.

Quote:

AI Overview

Indiana University spent an estimated
$21.1 million on football Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) for the 2025 college football season, according to reports. This investment placed the Hoosiers among the top programs in player spending, with their total roster cost for the season exceeding $20 million.
  • Significant Investment: The $21.1 million figure reflects a massive, competitive push, often cited in comparisons with elite programs.
  • Context: While not publicly confirmed, this estimated amount, highlighted by Yahoo Sports and Instagram, indicates a high-level, donor-backed effort to build a competitive roster under Head Coach Curt Cignetti.
  • Player Valuations: The high spending was reflected in individual player valuations, with reports citing high-value deals for key contributors like quarterback Fernando Mendoza.
The spending was largely facilitated by NIL collectives such as Hoosiers For Good and Hoosiers Connect.



Quote:

AI Overview

Based on September 2025 reports, Baylor Football's NIL budget for the 2025 season has increased significantly, with estimates placing their available funds around

$15 million. This substantial rise allowed the team to secure a large transfer portal class, reflecting a shift from lower, earlier-year NIL, spending towards a highly competitive, million-dollar, roster-wide structure.

Key Details on Baylor NIL Spending:
  • Budget Growth: The program increased its efforts to roughly $15 million, enabling the signing of a large transfer portal class of 24 players, nearly equaling the total from the previous three years.
  • Partnership: The team relies on a roster-wide NIL deal with Startup Waco, which offers opportunities for all players, including walk-ons, to earn, potential amounts, into the five-figure range.
  • Context: This $15 million figure places them in a more competitive position within the Big 12, though still below top-spending schools like Texas, which was projected to spend over $35 million.
Note: NIL data for 2025 is often estimated and subject to rapid change.




I don't understand this narrative that Cignetti is winning with zero resources. Like, his resources aren't elite, but they are very good
canoso
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Jacques Strap said:

AI generated so consider the source....

Others of Note
Texas Tech 28 million
Ohio State $20 million to $35 million+
Oregon $23 million to over $26 million
Texas between $35 million and $40 million
Texas A&M athletes received a total of $51.4 million in NIL compensation from July 2024 to June 2025, according to reports. Of this, approximately $49.2 million was directed toward men's sports, with the overwhelming majority dedicated to securing top-tier talent for the football team. This figure represents a massive, nearly threefold increase from the previous academic year.

Quote:

AI Overview

Indiana University spent an estimated
$21.1 million on football Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) for the 2025 college football season, according to reports. This investment placed the Hoosiers among the top programs in player spending, with their total roster cost for the season exceeding $20 million.
  • Significant Investment: The $21.1 million figure reflects a massive, competitive push, often cited in comparisons with elite programs.
  • Context: While not publicly confirmed, this estimated amount, highlighted by Yahoo Sports and Instagram, indicates a high-level, donor-backed effort to build a competitive roster under Head Coach Curt Cignetti.
  • Player Valuations: The high spending was reflected in individual player valuations, with reports citing high-value deals for key contributors like quarterback Fernando Mendoza.
The spending was largely facilitated by NIL collectives such as Hoosiers For Good and Hoosiers Connect.



Quote:

AI Overview

Based on September 2025 reports, Baylor Football's NIL budget for the 2025 season has increased significantly, with estimates placing their available funds around

$15 million. This substantial rise allowed the team to secure a large transfer portal class, reflecting a shift from lower, earlier-year NIL, spending towards a highly competitive, million-dollar, roster-wide structure.

Key Details on Baylor NIL Spending:
  • Budget Growth: The program increased its efforts to roughly $15 million, enabling the signing of a large transfer portal class of 24 players, nearly equaling the total from the previous three years.
  • Partnership: The team relies on a roster-wide NIL deal with Startup Waco, which offers opportunities for all players, including walk-ons, to earn, potential amounts, into the five-figure range.
  • Context: This $15 million figure places them in a more competitive position within the Big 12, though still below top-spending schools like Texas, which was projected to spend over $35 million.
Note: NIL data for 2025 is often estimated and subject to rapid change.



Nice research. Let's drop Indiana's NIL outlay into their context as the university with the largest living alumni base in the country and how much less their figure was than any of the three Texas schools'.
canoso
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Youre a clown said:

Jacques Strap said:

AI generated so consider the source....

Others of Note
Texas Tech 28 million
Ohio State $20 million to $35 million+
Oregon $23 million to over $26 million
Texas between $35 million and $40 million
Texas A&M athletes received a total of $51.4 million in NIL compensation from July 2024 to June 2025, according to reports. Of this, approximately $49.2 million was directed toward men's sports, with the overwhelming majority dedicated to securing top-tier talent for the football team. This figure represents a massive, nearly threefold increase from the previous academic year.

Quote:

AI Overview

Indiana University spent an estimated
$21.1 million on football Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) for the 2025 college football season, according to reports. This investment placed the Hoosiers among the top programs in player spending, with their total roster cost for the season exceeding $20 million.
  • Significant Investment: The $21.1 million figure reflects a massive, competitive push, often cited in comparisons with elite programs.
  • Context: While not publicly confirmed, this estimated amount, highlighted by Yahoo Sports and Instagram, indicates a high-level, donor-backed effort to build a competitive roster under Head Coach Curt Cignetti.
  • Player Valuations: The high spending was reflected in individual player valuations, with reports citing high-value deals for key contributors like quarterback Fernando Mendoza.
The spending was largely facilitated by NIL collectives such as Hoosiers For Good and Hoosiers Connect.



Quote:

AI Overview

Based on September 2025 reports, Baylor Football's NIL budget for the 2025 season has increased significantly, with estimates placing their available funds around

$15 million. This substantial rise allowed the team to secure a large transfer portal class, reflecting a shift from lower, earlier-year NIL, spending towards a highly competitive, million-dollar, roster-wide structure.

Key Details on Baylor NIL Spending:
  • Budget Growth: The program increased its efforts to roughly $15 million, enabling the signing of a large transfer portal class of 24 players, nearly equaling the total from the previous three years.
  • Partnership: The team relies on a roster-wide NIL deal with Startup Waco, which offers opportunities for all players, including walk-ons, to earn, potential amounts, into the five-figure range.
  • Context: This $15 million figure places them in a more competitive position within the Big 12, though still below top-spending schools like Texas, which was projected to spend over $35 million.
Note: NIL data for 2025 is often estimated and subject to rapid change.




I don't understand this narrative that Cignetti is winning with zero resources. Like, his resources aren't elite, but they are very good

No one, including Cignetti himself, has said anything remotely resembling the narrative you're referencing. But it does make good excuse fodder.
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canoso said:

Jacques Strap said:

AI generated so consider the source....

Others of Note
Texas Tech 28 million
Ohio State $20 million to $35 million+
Oregon $23 million to over $26 million
Texas between $35 million and $40 million
Texas A&M athletes received a total of $51.4 million in NIL compensation from July 2024 to June 2025, according to reports. Of this, approximately $49.2 million was directed toward men's sports, with the overwhelming majority dedicated to securing top-tier talent for the football team. This figure represents a massive, nearly threefold increase from the previous academic year.

Quote:

AI Overview

Indiana University spent an estimated
$21.1 million on football Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) for the 2025 college football season, according to reports. This investment placed the Hoosiers among the top programs in player spending, with their total roster cost for the season exceeding $20 million.
  • Significant Investment: The $21.1 million figure reflects a massive, competitive push, often cited in comparisons with elite programs.
  • Context: While not publicly confirmed, this estimated amount, highlighted by Yahoo Sports and Instagram, indicates a high-level, donor-backed effort to build a competitive roster under Head Coach Curt Cignetti.
  • Player Valuations: The high spending was reflected in individual player valuations, with reports citing high-value deals for key contributors like quarterback Fernando Mendoza.
The spending was largely facilitated by NIL collectives such as Hoosiers For Good and Hoosiers Connect.



Quote:

AI Overview

Based on September 2025 reports, Baylor Football's NIL budget for the 2025 season has increased significantly, with estimates placing their available funds around

$15 million. This substantial rise allowed the team to secure a large transfer portal class, reflecting a shift from lower, earlier-year NIL, spending towards a highly competitive, million-dollar, roster-wide structure.

Key Details on Baylor NIL Spending:
  • Budget Growth: The program increased its efforts to roughly $15 million, enabling the signing of a large transfer portal class of 24 players, nearly equaling the total from the previous three years.
  • Partnership: The team relies on a roster-wide NIL deal with Startup Waco, which offers opportunities for all players, including walk-ons, to earn, potential amounts, into the five-figure range.
  • Context: This $15 million figure places them in a more competitive position within the Big 12, though still below top-spending schools like Texas, which was projected to spend over $35 million.
Note: NIL data for 2025 is often estimated and subject to rapid change.



Nice research. Let's drop Indiana's NIL outlay into their context as the university with the largest living alumni base in the country and how much less their figure was than any of the three Texas schools'.

IU had the best return on their NIL investment by far, that's not up for debate.

How replicable that is for them remains to be seen. Cignetti is clearly an elite coach, but he can't recreate his past 4 years of coaching: with this season's incredible success, he's crossed the Rubicon, and he & his roster will now be in everyone else's sights.
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Mitch Henessey said:

cowboycwr said:

Robert Wilson said:

All I know is that neither our football team nor our basketball team is fun to watch, and it has become difficult to make yourself go to the games even if you live in Waco, as evidenced by all of the empty seats in McLane and in Foster.

Dave is just simply not a very good head coach. He does not have the skill set.

Drew is a little more puzzling. He won a national championship with a bunch of older, seasoned players, but since then he stocks up on guys that will only be here one or two years. And now we stink. Part of that is the nature of the new environment, but part of that is simply Drew not having the intestinal fortitude to stick with what really worked in the face of his ability to attract some high flying one and done type guys.



Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….
Yeah, we're only #14 in the country and in first place in the conference. What moron would enjoy that??


Lol. Let's check back at the end of the season.

How long has it been since we were a seriously good team? Won the conference? Mid season rankings are worthless
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cowboycwr said:

Mitch Henessey said:

cowboycwr said:

Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….

Yeah, we're only #14 in the country and in first place in the conference. What moron would enjoy that??


Lol. Let's check back at the end of the season.

How long has it been since we were a seriously good team? Won the conference? Mid season rankings are worthless

2022 - went 15-3 in conf, Big 12 Champions. This years team is trending pretty close to that.
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Delmar 2.0 said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Henessey said:

cowboycwr said:

Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….

Yeah, we're only #14 in the country and in first place in the conference. What moron would enjoy that??


Lol. Let's check back at the end of the season.

How long has it been since we were a seriously good team? Won the conference? Mid season rankings are worthless

2022 - went 15-3 in conf, Big 12 Champions. This years team is trending pretty close to that.

worth preemptively noting that only 3 of the 13 players on that 2022 squad were on the 2020 team, and I don't think any of the new players had been signed as recruits by Mulkey.

Also worth noting that Kim is a HoF coach in her third decade of coaching. while Nicki is still in her first decade as an HC. She's doing a great job following a legend (one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).
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Bearknuckle said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Henessey said:

cowboycwr said:

Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….

Yeah, we're only #14 in the country and in first place in the conference. What moron would enjoy that??


Lol. Let's check back at the end of the season.

How long has it been since we were a seriously good team? Won the conference? Mid season rankings are worthless

2022 - went 15-3 in conf, Big 12 Champions. This years team is trending pretty close to that.

worth preemptively noting that only 3 of the 13 players on that 2022 squad were on the 2020 team, and I don't think any of the new players had been signed as recruits by Mulkey.

Also worth noting that Kim is a HoF coach in her third decade of coaching. while Nicki is still in her first decade as an HC. She's doing a great job following a legend (one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).

Does he even watch the team.....seldom if ever posts on the WBB board according to his profile.....perhaps because they have been winning? It would be really exciting if CNC had anywhere near a level playing field of NIL. More than a handful of elite recruits have had Baylor in their last 2 or 3 only to lose out to SEC or ACC money. They play an exciting brand of basketball and get better as the season progresses. They are fun to watch.
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BEAR 45 said:

If you believe Baylor can find a coach better than Drew, it's time to wake up from that dream . College sports [ I use that term sarcastically ] has changed forever and we are forced to accept it. Before the portal and NIL [ pay to play ] kids gravitated towards coaches that had shown the ability to improve their skills and give them the best chance to get to the professional leagues. Now all that matters is the size of the check. Drew has not forgotten how to coach, it is the players that are different. Same thing on football, Saban showed

Perfect then....since Drew only coaches the players "provided" to him....We will adjust his salary to the same level of performance...
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Bearknuckle said:

(one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).


Can we stop saying this like it is something that just happens to a coach? If a coach's attitude is "I'm a victim of my NIL circumstances," then that coach is going to suck.
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Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

(one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).


Can we stop saying this like it is something that just happens to a coach? If a coach's attitude is "I'm a victim of my NIL circumstances," then that coach is going to suck.

Literally no one has said that's Nicki's attitude, because it's not. I don't disagree with your point, but it's also not relevant to a discussion about Nicki Collen in 2026. She's not whining.

However, the fact that she has had a smaller roster budget than programs like LSU, UCONN, or SoCar, is material to evaluating her performance as a coach. She's doing a great job - the team is playing suffocating defense which will serve them well in the tourney.

There's no reason to be disappointed in the Bears at all at this point in the season.
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Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

(one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).


Can we stop saying this like it is something that just happens to a coach? If a coach's attitude is "I'm a victim of my NIL circumstances," then that coach is going to suck.
Inarguable.
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canoso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

(one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).


Can we stop saying this like it is something that just happens to a coach? If a coach's attitude is "I'm a victim of my NIL circumstances," then that coach is going to suck.

Inarguable.

This has been Baylor's attitude from the get go
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blackie said:

Bearknuckle said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Henessey said:

cowboycwr said:

Great post but needs one edit…. Neither our football team or basketball TEAMS are fun to watch.

The girls used to be fun. Not anymore. But that could be another thread about how Mack ran off KM/let her walk….

Yeah, we're only #14 in the country and in first place in the conference. What moron would enjoy that??


Lol. Let's check back at the end of the season.

How long has it been since we were a seriously good team? Won the conference? Mid season rankings are worthless

2022 - went 15-3 in conf, Big 12 Champions. This years team is trending pretty close to that.

worth preemptively noting that only 3 of the 13 players on that 2022 squad were on the 2020 team, and I don't think any of the new players had been signed as recruits by Mulkey.

Also worth noting that Kim is a HoF coach in her third decade of coaching. while Nicki is still in her first decade as an HC. She's doing a great job following a legend (one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).

Does he even watch the team.....seldom if ever posts on the WBB board according to his profile.....perhaps because they have been winning? It would be really exciting if CNC had anywhere near a level playing field of NIL. More than a handful of elite recruits have had Baylor in their last 2 or 3 only to lose out to SEC or ACC money. They play an exciting brand of basketball and get better as the season progresses. They are fun to watch.



Lol. Ah yes the "he doesn't post so he must not pay attention" deflection.

They are fun to watch as they get second or worse in the big 12 and have early tournaments exits.

cowboycwr
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Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

(one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).


Can we stop saying this like it is something that just happens to a coach? If a coach's attitude is "I'm a victim of my NIL circumstances," then that coach is going to suck.

Literally no one has said that's Nicki's attitude, because it's not. I don't disagree with your point, but it's also not relevant to a discussion about Nicki Collen in 2026. She's not whining.

However, the fact that she has had a smaller roster budget than programs like LSU, UCONN, or SoCar, is material to evaluating her performance as a coach. She's doing a great job - the team is playing suffocating defense which will serve them well in the tourney.

There's no reason to be disappointed in the Bears at all at this point in the season.


No reason???? 89-54….
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cowboycwr said:

Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

(one who's NIL budget exceeds her own by 2-3x, fwiw).


Can we stop saying this like it is something that just happens to a coach? If a coach's attitude is "I'm a victim of my NIL circumstances," then that coach is going to suck.

Literally no one has said that's Nicki's attitude, because it's not. I don't disagree with your point, but it's also not relevant to a discussion about Nicki Collen in 2026. She's not whining.

However, the fact that she has had a smaller roster budget than programs like LSU, UCONN, or SoCar, is material to evaluating her performance as a coach. She's doing a great job - the team is playing suffocating defense which will serve them well in the tourney.

There's no reason to be disappointed in the Bears at all at this point in the season.


No reason???? 89-54….

one ugly loss to the #4 team in the nation that some pundits think has a real shot to win it all, and you're acting like that should be a major disappointment compared to being 17-3 in 1st place in the conference, their only other two losses by 6pts combined to two Top 25 teams.

lol get real.
Mitch Henessey
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tHeY dOn'T WiN eVeRy gAmE, tHeR4 tHeY sUcK!

Be serious, dude. You know how many undefeated seasons your crush Kim Mulkey had? 1. I guess every other season was terrible to watch, other than 2011-12.
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Mitch Henessey said:

tHeY dOn'T WiN eVeRy gAmE, tHeR4 tHeY sUcK!

Be serious, dude. You know how many undefeated seasons your crush Kim Mulkey had? 1. I guess every other season was terrible to watch, other than 2011-12.


Is that what I said??? Checks notes… no it isn't. Not even close.

Did I mention KM? Again no.

But that seems typical from the NC defenders, just like the Dave and MR defenders. Any sort of criticism must mean the person doing the criticism is a fan of the old coach, stuck in the past, etc.
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