Honestly, I have ZERO optimism. Saban or Kirby could come and doubtful they would have real success. Some places just aren't meant to be.

$Mil'$$$$$$ spent and aggy is still aggy.

MOVIN’ ON MONDAY (Power ranking candidates to be the next HC of the Baylor Bears):

1. Spencer Danielson, Boise State HC ↔️

2. Shawn Bell, Houston AHC 📈

3. Jeff Traylor, UTSA HC 📈

4. Jason Eck, New Mexico HC 📉

5. Lincoln Riley, USC HC 📈 pic.twitter.com/peiePHMNib

— Scotty Swingler (@PleaseBearW_Me) October 19, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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MOVIN’ ON MONDAY (Power ranking candidates to be the next HC of the Baylor Bears):

1. Spencer Danielson, Boise State HC ↔️

2. Shawn Bell, Houston AHC 📈

3. Jeff Traylor, UTSA HC 📈

4. Jason Eck, New Mexico HC 📉

5. Lincoln Riley, USC HC 📈 pic.twitter.com/peiePHMNib

— Scotty Swingler (@PleaseBearW_Me) October 19, 2026

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1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.

He ain't leaving $MU for Waco.

boognish_bear said:

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Shawn Bell? Hell no, lol

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Yeah...that one doesn't excite me at all

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He did Jack squat as our quarterback coach, and his personality is very mild, similar to Dave's. For me, he would be like hiring a high school coach. Just go get Colby Carthel from SFA if you get that far down the list

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boognish_bear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Shawn Bell? Hell no, lol

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Yeah...that one doesn't excite me at all

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He did Jack squat as our quarterback coach, and his personality is very mild, similar to Dave's. For me, he would be like hiring a high school coach. Just go get Colby Carthel from SFA if you get that far down the list

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Shawn Bell has done a hell of job with Conner Weigman at Houston, but you'd have trouble selling that hire.

I like Shawn more as a coach than most, but he'd be skipping several rungs on the ladder if he was hired as a Big 12 head coach right now.

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Youre a clown said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Shawn Bell? Hell no, lol

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Yeah...that one doesn't excite me at all

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He did Jack squat as our quarterback coach, and his personality is very mild, similar to Dave's. For me, he would be like hiring a high school coach. Just go get Colby Carthel from SFA if you get that far down the list

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Shawn Bell has done a hell of job with Conner Weigman at Houston, but you'd have trouble selling that hire.

I like Shawn more as a coach than most, but he'd be skipping several rungs on the ladder if he was hired as a Big 12 head coach right now.

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Right. Let an FCS or G5 hire him first

Youre a clown said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Youre a clown said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Shawn Bell? Hell no, lol

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Yeah...that one doesn't excite me at all

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He did Jack squat as our quarterback coach, and his personality is very mild, similar to Dave's. For me, he would be like hiring a high school coach. Just go get Colby Carthel from SFA if you get that far down the list

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Shawn Bell has done a hell of job with Conner Weigman at Houston, but you'd have trouble selling that hire.

I like Shawn more as a coach than most, but he'd be skipping several rungs on the ladder if he was hired as a Big 12 head coach right now.

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Right. Let an FCS or G5 hire him first

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Or let him have a successful run as a G4 offensive coordinator. But he needs experience and success in one of those areas or the other.

We scream all the time here that Baylor And staff did not adjust or understand the new NIL era. That is Dabo. Just because he's always talking about Jesus does not make him a great hire.

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We scream all the time here that Baylor And staff did not adjust or understand the new NIL era. That is Dabo. Just because he's always talking about Jesus does not make him a great hire.

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Just say no to Dabo

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boognish_bear said:

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MOVIN’ ON MONDAY (Power ranking candidates to be the next HC of the Baylor Bears):

1. Spencer Danielson, Boise State HC ↔️

2. Shawn Bell, Houston AHC 📈

3. Jeff Traylor, UTSA HC 📈

4. Jason Eck, New Mexico HC 📉

5. Lincoln Riley, USC HC 📈 pic.twitter.com/peiePHMNib

— Scotty Swingler (@PleaseBearW_Me) October 19, 2026

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1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.

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Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.

Agree. Not HC material. I'd be fine with him back on staff in some capacity. He'd be another experiment like Davey has been.

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Give Doug a hand with his list
Tier 1 proven history
Danielson at Boise State
Brian Newberry at Navy
Kalen DeBoer if Bama fires him

Tier 1 up and coming
Jason Eck at New Mexico

Tier 2 up and Coming
Brent Vigen Montana State

The usual suspects
Jeff Traylor
Sean Bell
GJ Kinne

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Not Newberry. No Academy guys in an NIL world.

Add Shane Beamer to the list.

We are headed for a VERY long revolving door era. There are no Baylor lifers in our future.
The job is acquire/get dealt a roster, be creative and play your best hand. So ... young x-box coaches. We're gonna lose anyone who is good, so keep the Rolodex fresh.

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We are headed for a VERY long revolving door era. There are no Baylor lifers in our future.
The job is acquire/get dealt a roster, be creative and play your best hand. So ... young x-box coaches. We're gonna lose anyone who is good, so keep the Rolodex fresh.

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This is the way it will be in all of cfb. Burn out rates for coaches will only increase as well.

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PaperBear89 said:

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We are headed for a VERY long revolving door era. There are no Baylor lifers in our future.
The job is acquire/get dealt a roster, be creative and play your best hand. So ... young x-box coaches. We're gonna lose anyone who is good, so keep the Rolodex fresh.

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This is the way it will be in all of cfb. Burn out rates for coaches will only increase as well.

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Agree. I think the days of assinine contract extensions for fear of losing a coach will be a thing of the past.

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If we go with a head coach that was insanely successful at G5 but flamed out at a blue blood, give me Luke Fickell. I mean, the dude had Cincinnati going toe to toe with SEC powerhouses. Can he get the players he needs? No clue. That's a question for every coach. But the dude absolutely can coach

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If Wisconsin gets rid of him, I'd absolutely say that he goes to the top of the list. He can flat out coach, and if you looked at their game against Riley/USC last night he had them ready to kick ass.

I think Traylor hates to lose even more than he loves to win. Baylor needs that type of fire at this point.

I want an up and comer from a non-P4 school with head coach experience. No failed coaches like a Lincoln Riley please.

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I want an up and comer from a non-P4 school with head coach experience. No failed coaches like a Lincoln Riley please.

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Agreed. Trying to hire a "splash" name normally does not work out too well....even for the blue bloods. There are reasons people like LIncoln Riley and many others mentioned on this board might be available and possibly even interested. And none of those reasons are good.

TCU isn't more attractive by any stretch of the imagination

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GoldenBear007 said:

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I want an up and comer from a non-P4 school with head coach experience. No failed coaches like a Lincoln Riley please.

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Agreed. Trying to hire a "splash" name normally does not work out too well....even for the blue bloods. There are reasons people like LIncoln Riley and many others mentioned on this board might be available and possibly even interested. And none of those reasons are good.

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Issue is, literally everyone wants the young up and comer that built-up a G5 program. Those coaches often have options. Some coaches might fail in the SEC or Big Ten but are perfectly fine in lesser conferences. James Franklin was great at Vanderbilt, decent but not spectacular at Penn State, and now has Virginia Tech looking decent in his first year. Of course, sometimes they don't work out. Whoever we hire will have to endear himself to our big donor base, that's really the key thing

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Rhett Lashlee

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40-17 as HC at SMU
Former Quarterback
Gus Malzahn tree

"On November 30, 2021, Lashlee was named head coach at Southern Methodist University (SMU), replacing Sonny Dykes after he left SMU to become the head coach at rival Texas Christian University (TCU).[11] After three successful seasons and a successful first half of 2025, Lashlee and SMU agreed to a two-year extension"

If certainly put him on my list

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No way he is coming to Baylor when SMU has all that nil money.

I still think Chadwell should be considered. The guy just wins football games

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I still think Chadwell should be considered. The guy just wins football games

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Would not be unhappy with him. He's well paid at liberty though

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TCU isn't more attractive by any stretch of the imagination

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It isn't 1996 anymore. TCU owns Baylor completely. We share a tier with them SMU, Houston; and Tech.

I'd rather see us shut down the football program and give all the money to Scott Drew than to see some subpar hire like Shawn Bell.

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I'd rather see us shut down the football program and give all the money to Scott Drew than to see some subpar hire like Shawn Bell.

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Or Beale, Roberts, Morris, Cap'n Carrot, but I digress. "We're Baylor!"

TCU winning their superbowl every year doesn't make that hon better than Baylor's

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Give Doug a hand with his list
Tier 1 proven history
Danielson at Boise State
Brian Newberry at Navy
Kalen DeBoer if Bama fires him

Tier 1 up and coming
Jason Eck at New Mexico

Tier 2 up and Coming
Brent Vigen Montana State

The usual suspects
Jeff Traylor
Sean Bell
GJ Kinne

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The Boise St coach, seriously.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Give Doug a hand with his list
Tier 1 proven history
Danielson at Boise State
Brian Newberry at Navy
Kalen DeBoer if Bama fires him

Tier 1 up and coming
Jason Eck at New Mexico

Tier 2 up and Coming
Brent Vigen Montana State

The usual suspects
Jeff Traylor
Sean Bell
GJ Kinne

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Jason Eck turned Idaho and New Mexico around immediately. I hope we take a look at him!

bear2be2 said:

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Youre a clown said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Shawn Bell? Hell no, lol

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Yeah...that one doesn't excite me at all

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He did Jack squat as our quarterback coach, and his personality is very mild, similar to Dave's. For me, he would be like hiring a high school coach. Just go get Colby Carthel from SFA if you get that far down the list

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Shawn Bell has done a hell of job with Conner Weigman at Houston, but you'd have trouble selling that hire.

I like Shawn more as a coach than most, but he'd be skipping several rungs on the ladder if he was hired as a Big 12 head coach right now.

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That would be a sink or swim hire.

Maybe one day but, not today.