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Gameday Thread: Baylor vs. Texas Tech (AT&T Stadium)

November 11, 2017
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BAYLOR (1-8) vs. TEXAS TECH (4-5)

AT&T Stadium | 11 a.m. CT | Fox Sports

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Bears look to build on momentum

Baylor secured their first victory of the season and of the Matt Rhule era last Saturday over the Kansas Jayhawks and now are headed to Arlington to face Texas Tech with hopes of pulling out their second in a row.

If the Bears indeed leave AT&T Stadium with a victory it will be the first time the program has won consecutive games since week five and week seven of the 2016 season when the Bears defeated Iowa State and Kansas. The two wins were the final stretch of a seven-game win streak and 16 of their last 19 games dating back to 2015.

While the Bears cannot become bowl eligible for an eighth consecutive season, a strong close to the season would be a huge boost to the recruiting efforts of the Bears who currently hold verbal pledges from 19 2018 prospects.

Baylor has won five of their last six contests against Texas Tech but lost the most recent of the series in 2016, 54-35. Then freshman Zach Smith threw for 377 yards and three touchdowns while running back Terence Williams rushed for 147 yards and two touchdowns.


SIDENOTE STORYLINE

Texas Tech playing for Kingsbury's job?

As Matt Rhule settles into the final three games of his first season in Waco, Texas Tech head coach Kliff Kingsbury is feeling his seat get warm as the Red Raiders have dropped five of their last six including a heartbreaking overtime loss to Kansas State last weekend when Tech led by eight points in the final minutes. The stretch came after Tech opened the season with wins over Arizona State and Houston and began the season 4-1.

The loss to KSU was the second time in Big 12 play Tech has blown a fourth-quarter lead in Big 12 play. Back on Oct. 14, the Red Raiders held a double-digit lead over West Virginia only to see the lead evaporate in the final quarter, dropping the contest 46-35 in Morgantown after giving up 22 points in the final 15 minutes. In that six-game stretch Tech has claimed only single victory over Kansas and has also lost to Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Oklahoma.

Sitting at 4-5 in 2017, Kingsbury has posted a 28-31 overall record in his time in Lubbock and reached a bowl game twice in 2013 and 2015. With three games remaining this season against Baylor, TCU and Texas, missing a bowl game for a second-straight season and falling apart after another promising start could be the final straw for Kingsbury.


MATT RHULE QUOTE OF THE WEEK

On team earning first victory of 2017 season...

“It was a ton of fun. Those guys have worked so hard and we’ve had to put things in perspective so many times in the locker room. We still had to put things in perspective after the game, because great teams ask what’s next and move forward. But it was good for them to have a chance to celebrate and be happy. I just liked the way they finished the game. I didn’t want a team that, when we finally got up and had a chance to win, would celebrate too early or be careless or sloppy or make the other team look bad or not be respectful. I just like the way our guys handled it at the end of the game. We found a way to keep them out of the end zone. We got our fourth quarter shutout. We ran for 65 yards in the fourth quarter. We got the touchdown to Ish [Wainright]. We won the game, shook their hands, said a prayer, went and saw our fans, and went to the locker room. The nice thing was that the way we handled things when we lost was the same way we handled things when we won. But to get in the locker room and see the happy looks on their faces, and to go in on Monday morning and have the team meeting and call out award winners, which we only do when we win, was really nice. Offensive scout team player of the week was Obim Okeke, and defensive scout team player of the week was James Lockhart, and they might not get a ton of time to play right now, with Lockhart sitting out, but all those guys understand it was a team win. It was all the guys on the scout team. It was all the guys that signaled during the game. It was everyone. That was fun.”


PLAYERS TO WATCH

Jim Black
Charlie Brewer

Charlie Brewer will get his second start of the season against Texas Tech and the freshman will need to be prepared to help the Bears keep pace with the high-flying offense from Lubbock. If Brewer can keep his pace from last week, the Bears should be in good position. 

Jim Black
Verkedric Vaughns

Baylor's safeties have been a weak link throughout the season but junior Verkedric Vaughns has begun to emerge as the season progresses. The success of Baylor's defense will depend on how well the secondary holds up, but a big game from Vaughns would be a big help.

Jim Black
Denzel Mims

As important as the defense is, "keeping up" is just as important as the Red Raiders will get their yards and points. Sophomore Denzel Mims will need to be helped out on the outside, but Baylor's leading receiver needs to make Tech's defense question their defensive alignments.

Jim Black
Offensive Line

The best defense is a good offense and Baylor's offensive line can be the deciding point if they can create running lanes for Baylor's running backs. If the Bears can dominate at the LOS and control the clock, the less time Tech's offense will spend on the field in Arlington.

Discussion from...

Gameday Thread: Baylor vs. Texas Tech (AT&T Stadium)

83,929 Views | 489 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by Assassin
Chanceux
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BaylorOkie said:

So Holmes tore his ACL, I'm hearing.
Thought might be a fracture. I reckon acl is slightly better for his long term health.
rileyroo
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Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
BearKamp
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rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.


That's Rhule football there.
RealLarryDon
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It's pretty easy to see why the left guard and left tackle are two of the lowest rated offensive linemen of all Power 5 conference linemen by Pro Football Focus.
Cove Dawg
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.


You may want to watch it again, straight in the air with no bounce thus the ability to fair catch.
Chanceux
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Dadgum drops. Turnovers. Ugly.
Assassin
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rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
I'm okay with the onside call. I'll take being aggressive over passive playcalling

As for the implementation, not so much
Grizz Air
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It seems like most of the team has a serious loser mentality. I think we came in expecting to lose big.
Assassin
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How many drops have we had that stopped drives/cost us scores?
Grizz Air
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Brewer and several others are the exception. A few players have heart and show some fight.
Quinton
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God this is a bad football team right now. Glimmers of progress mixed with ineptness. Rhule also making terrible decisions to get put an already undermanned team in terrible positions
BaylorProud77
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Assassin said:

How many drops have we had that stopped drives/cost us scores?
We just don't look good.
RealLarryDon
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We have at least 3 receivers who may as well follow Hall's path to the defensive side of the ball if they can't improve their pass catching ability in the Spring.
greggor25
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Very painful to watch to lose to crappy Tech team.
BaylorProud77
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My only hope is that they don't get to go bowling!
Dman
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Assassin said:

rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
I'm okay with the onside call. I'll take being aggressive over passive playcalling

As for the implementation, not so much



HORRIBLE CALL. No need to risk giving the bAll to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Verus go into 4th down 10 and be within striking distance.

Game changing call...
boognish_bear
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Sucks that we don't have Platt. Brewer looks good...just doesn't have the reliable weapons
Brian Ethridge
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boognish_bear said:

Sucks that we don't have Platt. Brewer looks good...just doesn't have the reliable weapons
Platt, Sneed, Holmes, etc...
Quinton
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Man, hasty could have been great in a spread
boognish_bear
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Man....Hasty has got some jukes
Chanceux
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Well how bout using the tight ends
BaylorProud77
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Dman said:

Assassin said:

rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
I'm okay with the onside call. I'll take being aggressive over passive playcalling

As for the implementation, not so much



HORRIBLE CALL. No need to risk giving the bAll to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Verus go into 4th down 10 and be within striking distance.

Game changing call...
very much so
Assassin
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Dman said:

Assassin said:

rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
I'm okay with the onside call. I'll take being aggressive over passive playcalling

As for the implementation, not so much

HORRIBLE CALL. No need to risk giving the bAll to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Verus go into 4th down 10 and be within striking distance.

Game changing call...
And if we had controlled the ball you would be sayiing

INCREDIBLE CALL. Great idea vs the risk giving the ball to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Put this thing away.

Game changing call...
Anthonybaylor2009
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That's the nicest comment I could make about this season.

cowboycwr
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Compounding said:

Man, hasty could have been great in a spread


In any sort of actual offense. Not a mesh of 15 different systems like we do.
Quinton
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Rhule needs to give the whole roster a full month of pure recovery training and treatment. He blasted out the entire roster in the name of toughness. Balance not stubbornness is needed.
BaylorProud77
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Assassin said:

Dman said:

Assassin said:

rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
I'm okay with the onside call. I'll take being aggressive over passive playcalling

As for the implementation, not so much

HORRIBLE CALL. No need to risk giving the bAll to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Verus go into 4th down 10 and be within striking distance.

Game changing call...
And if we had controlled the ball you would be sayiing

INCREDIBLE CALL. Great idea vs the risk giving the ball to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Put this thing away.

Game changing call...
well yes, but it didn't happen. Mr. Smarty lol
Assassin
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Brewer really throws a sweet, catchable ball.

For those that can actually catch it
Assassin
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Anthonybaylor2009 said:

That's the nicest comment I could make about this season.

Ha!
PartyBear
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WHy is it we decide to go uptemp usually with 8 minutes left in the game down by 3 scores?
Quinton
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The talent level is pretty close. Thats how weak tech's roster has been for years now outside of mahomes
geewago
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rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
It's just a "drowning man grabbing for a straw".
BaylorProud77
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Dropped again!
Brian Ethridge
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How is that not pass interference?
Dman
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Assassin said:

Dman said:

Assassin said:

rileyroo said:

Dumb call to go for that onside kick. We would have been down by 10 to start the fourth quarter. Finding ways to lose.
I'm okay with the onside call. I'll take being aggressive over passive playcalling

As for the implementation, not so much

HORRIBLE CALL. No need to risk giving the bAll to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Verus go into 4th down 10 and be within striking distance.

Game changing call...
And if we had controlled the ball you would be sayiing

INCREDIBLE CALL. Great idea vs the risk giving the ball to a high power offense on such a short field that can put the game away with a TD! Put this thing away.

Game changing call...


Are you kidding? What? It wouldnt have been a short field had we kicked! Onside kicks ARE LOW PROBABILITY! You don't take a chance like that in that situation. We were within 10 and just drove down to score. Sure enough. They score in 2 plays from that short field.

We would be in this game right now otherwise!

We didn't have to be in this situation. HORRIBLE CALL

 
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