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Gameday Thread: Baylor vs. Texas Tech (AT&T Stadium)

November 11, 2017
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BAYLOR (1-8) vs. TEXAS TECH (4-5)

AT&T Stadium | 11 a.m. CT | Fox Sports

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Bears look to build on momentum

Baylor secured their first victory of the season and of the Matt Rhule era last Saturday over the Kansas Jayhawks and now are headed to Arlington to face Texas Tech with hopes of pulling out their second in a row.

If the Bears indeed leave AT&T Stadium with a victory it will be the first time the program has won consecutive games since week five and week seven of the 2016 season when the Bears defeated Iowa State and Kansas. The two wins were the final stretch of a seven-game win streak and 16 of their last 19 games dating back to 2015.

While the Bears cannot become bowl eligible for an eighth consecutive season, a strong close to the season would be a huge boost to the recruiting efforts of the Bears who currently hold verbal pledges from 19 2018 prospects.

Baylor has won five of their last six contests against Texas Tech but lost the most recent of the series in 2016, 54-35. Then freshman Zach Smith threw for 377 yards and three touchdowns while running back Terence Williams rushed for 147 yards and two touchdowns.


SIDENOTE STORYLINE

Texas Tech playing for Kingsbury's job?

As Matt Rhule settles into the final three games of his first season in Waco, Texas Tech head coach Kliff Kingsbury is feeling his seat get warm as the Red Raiders have dropped five of their last six including a heartbreaking overtime loss to Kansas State last weekend when Tech led by eight points in the final minutes. The stretch came after Tech opened the season with wins over Arizona State and Houston and began the season 4-1.

The loss to KSU was the second time in Big 12 play Tech has blown a fourth-quarter lead in Big 12 play. Back on Oct. 14, the Red Raiders held a double-digit lead over West Virginia only to see the lead evaporate in the final quarter, dropping the contest 46-35 in Morgantown after giving up 22 points in the final 15 minutes. In that six-game stretch Tech has claimed only single victory over Kansas and has also lost to Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Oklahoma.

Sitting at 4-5 in 2017, Kingsbury has posted a 28-31 overall record in his time in Lubbock and reached a bowl game twice in 2013 and 2015. With three games remaining this season against Baylor, TCU and Texas, missing a bowl game for a second-straight season and falling apart after another promising start could be the final straw for Kingsbury.


MATT RHULE QUOTE OF THE WEEK

On team earning first victory of 2017 season...

“It was a ton of fun. Those guys have worked so hard and we’ve had to put things in perspective so many times in the locker room. We still had to put things in perspective after the game, because great teams ask what’s next and move forward. But it was good for them to have a chance to celebrate and be happy. I just liked the way they finished the game. I didn’t want a team that, when we finally got up and had a chance to win, would celebrate too early or be careless or sloppy or make the other team look bad or not be respectful. I just like the way our guys handled it at the end of the game. We found a way to keep them out of the end zone. We got our fourth quarter shutout. We ran for 65 yards in the fourth quarter. We got the touchdown to Ish [Wainright]. We won the game, shook their hands, said a prayer, went and saw our fans, and went to the locker room. The nice thing was that the way we handled things when we lost was the same way we handled things when we won. But to get in the locker room and see the happy looks on their faces, and to go in on Monday morning and have the team meeting and call out award winners, which we only do when we win, was really nice. Offensive scout team player of the week was Obim Okeke, and defensive scout team player of the week was James Lockhart, and they might not get a ton of time to play right now, with Lockhart sitting out, but all those guys understand it was a team win. It was all the guys on the scout team. It was all the guys that signaled during the game. It was everyone. That was fun.”


PLAYERS TO WATCH

Jim Black
Charlie Brewer

Charlie Brewer will get his second start of the season against Texas Tech and the freshman will need to be prepared to help the Bears keep pace with the high-flying offense from Lubbock. If Brewer can keep his pace from last week, the Bears should be in good position. 

Jim Black
Verkedric Vaughns

Baylor's safeties have been a weak link throughout the season but junior Verkedric Vaughns has begun to emerge as the season progresses. The success of Baylor's defense will depend on how well the secondary holds up, but a big game from Vaughns would be a big help.

Jim Black
Denzel Mims

As important as the defense is, "keeping up" is just as important as the Red Raiders will get their yards and points. Sophomore Denzel Mims will need to be helped out on the outside, but Baylor's leading receiver needs to make Tech's defense question their defensive alignments.

Jim Black
Offensive Line

The best defense is a good offense and Baylor's offensive line can be the deciding point if they can create running lanes for Baylor's running backs. If the Bears can dominate at the LOS and control the clock, the less time Tech's offense will spend on the field in Arlington.

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Gameday Thread: Baylor vs. Texas Tech (AT&T Stadium)

72,161 Views | 489 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by Assassin
JumboShrimper
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Ballgame
timetraveler
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Rhule is getting stomped by one of the worst teams I've seen play all season
JXL
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We'd better be on the phone to the league office on Monday
EatMoreSalmon
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oh well
Doc Holliday
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That was a live ball regardless.

Can't believe the refs got away with that. They literally just made that up, not kidding.
boognish_bear
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

You can't fair catch a ball that bounces on the ground.


If things work that way then teams should fair catch an onside kick everytime.

That call can't be right.
Brian Ethridge
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Staff
Did the WR step out before catching the ball?
gobears20
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Staff
Big 12 refs are such a joke
BearKamp
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TD Tech.
CSIBear
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Wow. Man that's a gut punch
Dungeon Athletics
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boognish_bear said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

You can't fair catch a ball that bounces on the ground.


If things work that way then teams should fair catch an onside kick everytime.

That call can't be right.

It didn't bounce. He popped it straight up in the air.
BaylorProud77
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

That was a live ball regardless.

Can't believe the refs got away with that. They literally just made that up, not kidding.
Screwed
Chanceux
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Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
Doc Holliday
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Ashamed that CMR didn't tear into the refs. Stand up for the team man...Jesus Christ.
BearKamp
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timetraveler said:

Rhule is getting stomped by one of the worst teams I've seen play all season


Coach Bro gonna send Rhule a Thank you bouquet Tmr.
Doc Holliday
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Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
LTbear
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I can't watch the game in Cali. Can someone explain what just happened?
boognish_bear
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Since no one is watching this game I'm sure they don't have access to Mike Perera...but id sure love an explanation on that onside kick call.

Is that something that CMR could have challenged?
Chanceux
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
Nah brother. Watched it 3 times now. He just pooches that sucker.
Assassin
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LTbear said:

I can't watch the game in Cali. Can someone explain what just happened?
http://www.nflstreams.me/american-football/522017/2/texas-tech-vs-baylor-stream.html
Doc Holliday
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Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
Nah brother. Watched it 3 times now. He just pooches that sucker.
Still a live ball. Traveled 10 yards and fair catch call was too late.
Team America
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.


it did not hit the ground, he popped it straight up.
Brian Ethridge
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Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
Nah brother. Watched it 3 times now. He just pooches that sucker.
Yep. Pop up, never touched the ground.
boognish_bear
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.


I just went back and watched it The ball did not hit the ground
Chanceux
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
Nah brother. Watched it 3 times now. He just pooches that sucker.
Still a live ball. Traveled 10 years and fair catch call was too late.
If it doesnt hit the ground before goin 10 its just a short kick.
BaylorProud77
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boognish_bear said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.


I just went back and watched it The ball did not hit the ground
well crap
Doc Holliday
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Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
Nah brother. Watched it 3 times now. He just pooches that sucker.
Still a live ball. Traveled 10 years and fair catch call was too late.
If it doesnt hit the ground before goin 10 its just a short kick.
Isnt there a rule on how long you have to wave fair catch before making the catch?
Chanceux
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BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
Nah brother. Watched it 3 times now. He just pooches that sucker.
Still a live ball. Traveled 10 years and fair catch call was too late.
If it doesnt hit the ground before goin 10 its just a short kick.
Isnt there a rule on how long you have to wave fair catch before making the catch?
Don't think so. Could be a ref decision?
Anthonybaylor2009
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We suck
BaylorOkie
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So Holmes tore his ACL, I'm hearing.
SicThe12
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Assassin
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Anthonybaylor2009 said:

We suck
Speak for yourself
Doc Holliday
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Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

BEAR RAMMAGE said:

Chanceux said:

Good call on the onside. Balls gotta hit the ground and take a bounce. If it dont hit the ground then they can fair catch it.
It hit the ground. It wouldn't have been an onside kick if it didn't. He didn't flop it, he bounced it off the ground.
Nah brother. Watched it 3 times now. He just pooches that sucker.
Still a live ball. Traveled 10 years and fair catch call was too late.
If it doesnt hit the ground before goin 10 its just a short kick.
Isnt there a rule on how long you have to wave fair catch before making the catch?
Don't think so. Could be a ref decision?
Well if that's the case then I'm telling my players to wave fair catch a split second before catching every ball in order to create a penalty.
John Hawk
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JXL said:

We'd better be on the phone to the league office on Monday
From the 2017 Division 1 Rules:

SECTION 4. Opportunity To Catch a Kick

Interference With Opportunity
ARTICLE 1.
a. If an inbounds player of the receiving team is located where
he could catch a free kick or a scrimmage kick that has crossed the neutral
zone, and if he is attempting to do so, he must be given an unimpeded
opportunity to catch the kick.
b. It is an interference foul if, before the receiver touches the ball, a Team A
player enters the area defined by the width of the receiver's shoulders and
extending one yard in front of him. When in question it is a foul.

So did Vaughns come within 1 yard of #30? When in question it is a foul.


BaylorProud77
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Anthonybaylor2009 said:

We suck
Are you just now noticing?
 
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