Stupid new kickoff rule

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Dia del DougO
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GoldenBear007 said:

10 years from now, I doubt we even have kickoffs. Offense just takes over on their side of the field.
I think that's the excuse Baylor is using to deny Conner Martin's scholarship.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
cowboycwr
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X has disappeared from the thread once facts were provided to prove him wrong.....
xiledinok
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trey3216 said:

xiledinok said:

trey3216 said:

xiledinok said:

Jimmy the Greek told us it's a big boy game. The game suffers because they cannot market the players for more than 5 years.
The NBA markets their guys post retirement. Look at gambler Mike Jordan. He owns a team in North Carolina.
The NFL has Marshawn Lynch. He is too dumb to market himself and maximize his money. Etc.,,etc,,..
lol. Marshawn Lynch isn't dumb at all. Dude is fairly savvy.
Savvy enough to take off a season then have to come back? If he'd just act like he wants to be there, maybe the Beast could be sold.
He took a season off because he wanted to get away from SEA that badly. He gave up almost $7mm worth of guaranteed salary to get away from them so he could pick where he wanted to play.

He is known to use his NFL salary on purchasing cash producing rental real estate for his retirement, maxing out his 401k, and loading up on cash value life insurance.

He gives tons of money away every year to legit charitable endeavors. Maybe you could google that.

Your slack-jawed, ill-informed bs is laughable and you keep digging a deeper grave.
It's all opinion, he was savvy enough to retire and then go get hit some more. That's a helluva plan to lose a year of physical ability to play. You would think if he was all about the money, he'd stick around and not walk away from it.
xiledinok
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cowboycwr said:

X has disappeared from the thread once facts were provided to prove him wrong.....
Coming from you, I should post even more.
Lynch didn't maximize his career value and didn't market the "Beast" when he could have made the most money doing it. He walked away at the peak.
Like most NFL players, they aren't marketed as well as the other sports.
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I wonder if this rule will actually create a bigger demand for better kickers. Talented kickers could do squib kicks or, as Elvis suggested, kick it to the back of the end zone. Kickers could become highly recruited athletes, like other notable positions. Will we have more on-side kicks? The rule will have one of two results regarding kicking: it will have to get better or it will ultimately be eliminated.
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Grumpy said:

I wonder if this rule will actually create a bigger demand for better kickers. Talented kickers could do squib kicks or, as Elvis suggested, kick it to the back of the end zone. Kickers could become highly recruited athletes, like other notable positions. Will we have more on-side kicks? The rule will have one of two results regarding kicking: it will have to get better or it will ultimately be eliminated.
It could encourage more pooch and squib kicks, unfortunately
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cowboycwr
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I bet the coach in Arkansas at that high school that never does a regular kick off and always does onsides laughs at a rule like this.
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xiledinok said:

trey3216 said:

xiledinok said:

trey3216 said:

xiledinok said:

Jimmy the Greek told us it's a big boy game. The game suffers because they cannot market the players for more than 5 years.
The NBA markets their guys post retirement. Look at gambler Mike Jordan. He owns a team in North Carolina.
The NFL has Marshawn Lynch. He is too dumb to market himself and maximize his money. Etc.,,etc,,..
lol. Marshawn Lynch isn't dumb at all. Dude is fairly savvy.
Savvy enough to take off a season then have to come back? If he'd just act like he wants to be there, maybe the Beast could be sold.
He took a season off because he wanted to get away from SEA that badly. He gave up almost $7mm worth of guaranteed salary to get away from them so he could pick where he wanted to play.

He is known to use his NFL salary on purchasing cash producing rental real estate for his retirement, maxing out his 401k, and loading up on cash value life insurance.

He gives tons of money away every year to legit charitable endeavors. Maybe you could google that.

Your slack-jawed, ill-informed bs is laughable and you keep digging a deeper grave.
It's all opinion, he was savvy enough to retire and then go get hit some more. That's a helluva plan to lose a year of physical ability to play. You would think if he was all about the money, he'd stick around and not walk away from it.
Umm no it isn't opinion. Much of it is documented fact.

He was one of the highest paid players in terms of endorsements. The highest by a RB.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2015/10/11/the-nfl-players-who-make-the-most-from-endorsements/#1a19c44f6277

Yes $5mil is not much compared to other superstar athletes.

But I think NFL players can be harder to market because they aren't as easy to recognize. Their face is hidden behind a helmet/face mask.

A tennis player, soccer player, etc doesn't have that.

A tennis player, golfer, etc also is not part of a team.

You can't compare Lynch's endorsements to Lebron James. He is the top player in that league and most popular. A more accurate comparison might be to Manu Ginobili. He only made about 3 million a year in endorsements at the top of his game.
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xiledinok said:

cowboycwr said:

X has disappeared from the thread once facts were provided to prove him wrong.....
Coming from you, I should post even more.
Lynch didn't maximize his career value and didn't market the "Beast" when he could have made the most money doing it. He walked away at the peak.
Like most NFL players, they aren't marketed as well as the other sports.
You do realize that the NFL has league rules about endorsements that restricts many types of endorsements? Right?

The league causes the difference in marketing between an NBA player and an NFL player.

And yes he did market the beast. Look above for proof.
xiledinok
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cowboycwr said:

xiledinok said:

cowboycwr said:

X has disappeared from the thread once facts were provided to prove him wrong.....
Coming from you, I should post even more.
Lynch didn't maximize his career value and didn't market the "Beast" when he could have made the most money doing it. He walked away at the peak.
Like most NFL players, they aren't marketed as well as the other sports.
You do realize that the NFL has league rules about endorsements that restricts many types of endorsements? Right?

The league causes the difference in marketing between an NBA player and an NFL player.

And yes he did market the beast. Look above for proof.


He took off a year during his peak at 29 years old while he was scheduled to make $7 million. He made $3.5 last year and will play most likely his last year in 2018. He didn't maximize his value and the "beast mode" faded.
Also, he moved home close to mom to play for the Raiders. There is all kinds of information about why he makes strange social decisions.
trey3216
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xiledinok said:

cowboycwr said:

xiledinok said:

cowboycwr said:

X has disappeared from the thread once facts were provided to prove him wrong.....
Coming from you, I should post even more.
Lynch didn't maximize his career value and didn't market the "Beast" when he could have made the most money doing it. He walked away at the peak.
Like most NFL players, they aren't marketed as well as the other sports.
You do realize that the NFL has league rules about endorsements that restricts many types of endorsements? Right?

The league causes the difference in marketing between an NBA player and an NFL player.

And yes he did market the beast. Look above for proof.


He took off a year during his peak at 29 years old while he was scheduled to make $7 million. He made $3.5 last year and will play most likely his last year in 2018. He didn't maximize his value and the "beast mode" faded.
Also, he moved home close to mom to play for the Raiders. There is all kinds of information about why he makes strange social decisions.

Perhaps because he has made sound enough financial decisions, for being ignorant according to you, to be happy rather than stuck. That year off helped him clear his mind and what not. His Marginal Utility of playing in his hometown for less money was great than the marginal utility for playing for Pete Carroll. You know, simple micro-economics stuff.
xiledinok
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trey3216 said:

xiledinok said:

cowboycwr said:

xiledinok said:

cowboycwr said:

X has disappeared from the thread once facts were provided to prove him wrong.....
Coming from you, I should post even more.
Lynch didn't maximize his career value and didn't market the "Beast" when he could have made the most money doing it. He walked away at the peak.
Like most NFL players, they aren't marketed as well as the other sports.
You do realize that the NFL has league rules about endorsements that restricts many types of endorsements? Right?

The league causes the difference in marketing between an NBA player and an NFL player.

And yes he did market the beast. Look above for proof.


He took off a year during his peak at 29 years old while he was scheduled to make $7 million. He made $3.5 last year and will play most likely his last year in 2018. He didn't maximize his value and the "beast mode" faded.
Also, he moved home close to mom to play for the Raiders. There is all kinds of information about why he makes strange social decisions.

Perhaps because he has made sound enough financial decisions, for being ignorant according to you, to be happy rather than stuck. That year off helped him clear his mind and what not. His Marginal Utility of playing in his hometown for less money was great than the marginal utility for playing for Pete Carroll. You know, simple micro-economics stuff.
Perhaps. The NFL has gone from a player drinking a Coke with a kid to a guy going "Beast" mode and taking a year off to clear his mind because Pete Carroll was his boss. That won't sell kool aid or soup. The politicians think the NFLPA is weak and Trump knew the players would be easier to hit than going straight after the league.
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Lots of whiney biaches on this site. if this rule makes you want to give up on football you are too easily bothered.

Play on players and quit acting like a hard azz

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Bona Fide Bear
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BaylorOkie said:

To me, it's ironic that some of the most vocal critics of these types of changes (referring more to the NFL, but it is really driving college changes) are the old-timer former players, yet they are the ones with injuries who are suing the NFL and causing all of this.
I think you have your causation backwards.
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