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Gameday Thread: Baylor (3-1) takes a conference road trip to Oklahoma (4-0)

September 28, 2018
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BAYLOR (3-1) vs. OKLAHOMA (4-0)

Memorial Stadium | 2:30 p.m CT | ABC

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Storylines of the Week

Is the Baylor defense for real?

The Bears came out in the first half against Kansas and held the Jayhawks to 48 total yards of offense. It was the most dominant defensive half in Matt Rhule’s tenure at Baylor. The second half did not go as well but in total Baylor only gave up 271 total yards and seven points. The Bears are now giving up 347.8 yards per game and 23.5 points per game which are ranked 49th and 58th respectively in the nation. The Bears rank 84th in 3rd down defense at 39.7%

Baylor will get tested big time as they travel to take on a team that averages 44.3 points over 500 yards per game. With Kyler Murray, a very talented offensive line, skilled receivers, and a bruising running back the Oklahoma offense is an absolute machine.

A Key Stat to Watch

Baylor gives up a first down on opponents third downs 39.7% of the time which is ranked 84th in the nation. Oklahoma converts on 55.6% of its third down tries which is 8th in the country. This could be a huge factor in the game.

Baylor’s most talented position has to step up

All fall camp we heard that the receivers were the most talented group on the roster and they thought they were too. So far they have played well but this is the perfect matchup for them to take another step. They have steadied the number 18 ranked passing attack in the country. Jalen Hurd, Denzel Mims, and Chris Platt have to win their individual matchups this week and the young receivers off the bench need to contribute as well. This group has the ability to rack up over 250 yards this week and if Baylor wants to win they will have to. 

Oklahoma is a top 10 team but the pass defense has not lived up to that ranking. The Sooners are ranked 64th in the country, giving up 211 passing yards per game despite facing Army last week (they had 40 yards passing on just eight pass attempts). If you do not include the Army game then Oklahoma is giving up 269 yards passing per game which would rank 103rd in the nation. Something has to give one way or another.

Quote of the Week

“I am proud of our team. On Saturday the guys came out and put together a good first half. I am really proud of our defense and how they flew around and did a bunch of good things, like created some negatives had a fourth quarter shut out and bounced back from tremendous adversity when the young man had the long run. We had some big-time efforts in the game. Chris Miller was special in the game, he flew from sideline to sideline making a bunch of great plays and I thought Grayland Arnold’s play on fourth down was a game defining play and it allowed us to have a chance to win. I am pleased with the fact we were able to get to the quarterback, we finished with four sacks and we did a tremendous job with different looks and Phil called a great game. Pleased with our defense and how Charlie handled the game on third down. We have to cut down on the penalties, it’s going to be hard to win going forward with three facemask penalties. I’m excited about the opportunity we have this week and go to Norman and play the defending Big 12 champions.” — Coach Matt Rhule

Statistic of the Week

Baylor sophomore quarterback Charlie Brewer has now started eight games in his career and has an overall record of 4-4 while building on his outstanding freshman season where he threw for 1,562 yards on 68.1-percent passing with 11 touchdowns and four interceptions in eight games played. He also added 166 yards rushing on 65 attempts.

As a sophomore in 2018, Brewer has completed 62.7 percent of his passes for 862 yards with six touchdowns and one interception. He has added 126 yards rushing and two touchdowns on 29 attempts. 

In his eight starts, Brewer has completed 67.7 percent of his passes for 2,093 yards with 15 touchdowns and five interceptions while rushing for 233 yards and two scores on 65 carries. 

By comparison, in the first eight starts of his career, Robert Griffin III passed for 1,563 and 11 touchdowns on 61.8-percent passing while rushing for 602 yards and nine scores on 121 carries.

Players to Watch

Jim Black
Charlie Brewer

It's no secret that Baylor is going to have to score above their average points to leave Oklahoma with a victory Saturday evening. That means Charlie Brewer will need to be on top of his game and keep the chains moving and the Sooners and their offense off the field.

Jim Black
Offensive Line

Scoring points starts with protecting the quarterback and creating just enough push to run the football. The Bears will be down Xavier Newman at left guard, but junior college offensive lineman Johncarlo Valentin will get his first career start at left guard.

Jim Black
Defensive Line

Oklahoma leans on their running game more than many expect which means Baylor's front line will need to be up to the challenge on every single snap. A disruptive game by James Lynch would do wonders in knocking Kyler Murray out of rhythm, but keeping him contained might be a bigger key.

 

Discussion from...

Gameday Thread: Baylor (3-1) takes a conference road trip to Oklahoma (4-0)

95,709 Views | 578 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by Timbear
merckywaters
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DAC said:

bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.

Easier to blame the players but you do realize teams with less talent win every Saturday

that takes flawless execution, incredible gameplay, and usually a lucky break or two when as is this situayion the players are less talented and less physically gifted.
You can call it blaming the players all you want
#FreeCinque
Krieg
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Bear8084 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888


Psssstttt...just because you post a score from 4 years ago does not make a good argument. Might as well post the score from 15 where we lost at home. Or the 2014 WVU score. There's a team in Italy you might like if you're giving up on this one.


As far as I can tell our head coach have up before I did. He pulled the guy that just threw a great TD pass and put in his backup. Killed that series and Brewer's next, getting him back into the game. Next drive we got points. We score on either of the other two drives and this isn't a blowout.

Rhule sucks. It's beyond time to realize that fact.
Doc Holliday
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Bear8084 said:

Doc Holliday said:

We will never be good under Rhule.

Accept it. Have patience. Drink beer and don't get your hopes up.

Look forward to the future where we can hire a competent coach.


More hot takes. What are the lotto numbers for this week?


Its reality. Accept it.
ColomboLQ
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bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good
Well, you nailed it.
ImwithBU
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When the coaches suck ass blame the talent. Someone remind me what was Harrison hand and Grayland Arnold ratings prior to Baylor. At some point coaches have to earn their paychecks. Teams with "less talent" win every Saturday. We not only suck but we lack discipline. It's one thing to have penalties when you can score on any play it's another thing when 28 pts is about all you are expected to score most games
DAC
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merckywaters said:

DAC said:

bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.

Easier to blame the players but you do realize teams with less talent win every Saturday

that takes flawless execution, incredible gameplay, and usually a lucky break or two when as is this situayion the players are less talented and less physically gifted.
You can call it blaming the players all you want

It does not take FLAWLESS execution. But perhaps you're right maybe we shouldn't expect incredible gameplay.
boognish_bear
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bear2be2 said:

What were you guys expecting from this game? I think anyone who looked at this matchup objectively saw something like this coming. If we can score out of halftime, we'll be in decent shape given the circumstances.


I thought we had a good chance to beat the spread.

That start sucked. Great job by D to start the game...but then the muffed punt. Then first offensive possession 2 holding penalties. Tough to fade those mistakes against a Top 10 team.

Felt like we spotted them 14 points before the game even got started
Bear8084
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Krieg said:

Bear8084 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

bear2be2 said:

ColomboLQ said:

Kyler Murray at the half:

4 TD passes
1 incompletion

Yoda Snow has him all sorts of confused so far!
We're not good or talented enough to stop a team with the weapons that OU has. We basically have to pick whether we're going to try to slow the run or pass at this stage because we can't defend a team that can do both well. It's obvious we've focused on taking away the run game. But doing so puts our DBs in positions they're not equipped to succeed in against these receivers. It is what is. You pick your poison.

On the plus side, it's been nice seeing our D-line get as much pressure as it has. That's going to be a big development when we start playing teams we're closer to in talent level.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547888


Psssstttt...just because you post a score from 4 years ago does not make a good argument. Might as well post the score from 15 where we lost at home. Or the 2014 WVU score. There's a team in Italy you might like if you're giving up on this one.


As far as I can tell our head coach have up before I did. He pulled the guy that just threw a great TD pass and put in his backup. Killed that series and Brewer's next, getting him back into the game. Next drive we got points. We score on either of the other two drives and this isn't a blowout.

Rhule sucks. It's beyond time to realize that fact.


He pulled him after a 4 and out and then back in another series.
Bear8084
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Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Doc Holliday said:

We will never be good under Rhule.

Accept it. Have patience. Drink beer and don't get your hopes up.

Look forward to the future where we can hire a competent coach.


More hot takes. What are the lotto numbers for this week?


Its reality. Accept it.


Lol. Uh huh. More hot takes.
BigBeauregard
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Hotsauce said:

Who was the guy screaming at CMR as he was trying to go to the locker room after the FG? It was an older guy in Baylor gear and he was really getting in CMR's face!


I was wondering the same thing. Anyone?
Bear8084
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boognish_bear said:

bear2be2 said:

What were you guys expecting from this game? I think anyone who looked at this matchup objectively saw something like this coming. If we can score out of halftime, we'll be in decent shape given the circumstances.


I thought we had a good chance to beat the spread.

That start sucked. Great job by D to start the game...but then the muffed punt. Then first offensive possession 2 holding penalties. Tough to fade those mistakes against a Top 10 team.

Felt like we spotted them 14 points before the game even got started


True about spotting them 14 points to start off.
tpj1991
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Looked like Joey McGuire
tpj1991
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BigBeauregard said:

Hotsauce said:

Who was the guy screaming at CMR as he was trying to go to the locker room after the FG? It was an older guy in Baylor gear and he was really getting in CMR's face!


I was wondering the same thing. Anyone?
Think it was Joey McGuire
Bear75605
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Good drive.... time for Jalan McClendon!
boognish_bear
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BigBeauregard said:

Hotsauce said:

Who was the guy screaming at CMR as he was trying to go to the locker room after the FG? It was an older guy in Baylor gear and he was really getting in CMR's face!


I was wondering the same thing. Anyone?


Was it George Deleone?

PartyBear
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No. He really wasn't an old guy looked like about Rhules age but hair was gray.
CTbruin
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The guy with the microphone was radio sideline reporter Ricky Thompson
DAC
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The announcers love rhule cuz they know he will never be a threat to knock off OU or Tx
BearConvert
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Well, well, well...look at us driving the ball!
cowboycwr
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How nice. Rhule's parents move every time he gets a job. At least he had 2 safe houses to go to where no one will bring up how crappy he is doing.
Bear75605
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Up-tempo!
bear2be2
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Great drive there. That was big if we're going to have any chance down the stretch.
NoBSU
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Nice series for a TD.
forza orsi
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Nice drive. Running the ball really well right now
chukronos
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Best drive I've seen this year. Great tempo and execution
Hotsauce
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There's actually been a few nice positives to hold your hat on moving forward...but you wouldn't really know it by reading some of the miserable fans we have posting on this site.
EGOTbear
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big time drive
Pablo_mondragon
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Much better look from the offense this half, great composure. Let's hope the defense is able to do the same
DAC
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chukronos said:

Best drive I've seen this year. Great tempo and execution

Bout time for a qb change
Michibear
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Whatever the score, be thankful for your Baylor degree.

TTAY24
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I liked that drive.
DAC
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Michibear said:

Whatever the score, be thankful for your Baylor degree.



That's too funny
BERFAN
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CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP
Bear75605
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Defense gives you a lot to hang your hat on!
cowboycwr
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Hotsauce said:

There's actually been a few nice positives to hold your hat on moving forward...but you wouldn't really know it by reading some of the miserable fans we have posting on this site.


Like that last play?
 
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