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Lombardi: Stidham a top-round pick if he had stayed to play for Rhule

May 3, 2019
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With experience as an executive the in front offices with the 49ers, Browns, Eagles, Raiders and Patriors, Michael Lombardi is one of the most knowledgable members of the media when it comes to covering the NFL.

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In Lombardi’s podcast The GM Shuffle, he gave a sizzling hot take on the newest backup quarterback for the New England Patriots and former Baylor and Auburn starting quarterback Jarrett Stidham. Stidham, a five-star signee with the Bears out of the 2015 recruiting class, transferred to Auburn after Baylor head coach Art Briles was fired in May of 2016. 

After initally annoucning his to stay and finish his career in Waco via Instagram, Stidham later backtracked and spent a fall semester at McLennan Community College in Waco before heading to Auburn to play for Gus Malzahn. Stidham had the chance to return to Baylor after his semester at MCC, but decided against it despite Baylor hiring Matt Rhule in early December of that year.

Despite being classified as arguably most natural and gifted passer in the draft, Stidham fell to the end of the fourth round. According to Lombardi, had he simply stayed in Waco and played for Rhule and former NFL quarterback coach Glenn Thomas, he would have been off the board in the first two rounds.

“Really if the kid was smart, he would have stayed at Baylor with Matt Rhule,” Lombardi said. “Because if he plays with Matt Rhule at Baylor, he’s probably going to throw. He probably would have been a first or second-round pick. He’s easily better than Daniel Jones if he plays in an offense that would have highlighted what he can do.”

Jones was the No. 6-overall pick in the draft. Stidham was the seventh quarterback taken behind Kyler Murray (Oklahoma), Jones (Duke), Dwanye Haskins (Ohio State), Drew Lock (Missouri), Will Grier (West Virginia) and Ryan Finley (NC State).

With three years remaining of eligibilty, Stidham’s departure left Baylor to rely on true freshman quarterback Zach Smith to take over for an injured Seth Russell in 2016. Smith would begin the 2017 season as the backup to transfer Anu Solomon before eventually moving back to the startingn lineup when Solomon was sidelined for the season with injury. Smith was then replaced by true freshman Charlie Brewer and opted to transfer in the offseason. 

Brewer, Rhule’s first high school quarterback recruit at Baylor, threw for 3,019 yards and 19 touchdowns as a starter in 2018 while adding 375 yards and seven touchdowns on the ground.

Stidham threw for 2,794 yards with 18 touchdowns in his final season at Auburn with 72 rushing yards and one score.

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Lombardi: Stidham a top-round pick if he had stayed to play for Rhule

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xiledinok
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
xiledinok
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.
They own the college football playoff and almost control the tv rights for ever major sport. The NFL picks and choses who they allow to broadcast their draft.

I don't worship them but understand them. They don't like folks stepping on their bottom line and not adhering to their wishes. They control too much not to be listened to and follow their advice. Some folks don't get it and will have their careers washed away.

This story (which was posted on the pay side with common sense responses) along with comments at the draft by others validate the thought that a quarterback should play in a pro style offense in college to get drafted higher. I understand you and others like yard burner offenses that roll over less talented defenses in the weak defensive Big 12. Those yard burner offenses have yet to maintain themselves against equal athletes.
BearFan33
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It hurt at the time but I don't blame JS for leaving. Baylor was a dumpster fire and the BOR were pouring in gasoline. He has a fantastic arm and is plenty athletic enough to make it in the NFL. I can't imagine a better landing spot for him. If Briles wasn't canned and the scandal never happened, sure I think JS goes higher in the draft, prob 1st round. If he stayed with Rhule, maybe higher, but tough call.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.

This story (which was posted on the pay side with common sense responses) along with comments at the draft by others validate the thought that a quarterback should play in a pro style offense in college to get drafted higher.
Sounds like you are getting a little bit snooty, my friend. Why are you even hanging out here with us trailer trash posters? Did you eat the Grey Poupon???
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
xiledinok
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.

This story (which was posted on the pay side with common sense responses) along with comments at the draft by others validate the thought that a quarterback should play in a pro style offense in college to get drafted higher.
Sounds like you are getting a little bit snooty, my friend. Why are you even hanging out here with us trailer trash posters? Did you eat the Grey Poupon???
I m just posting the reality these guys do not want to accept because it makes Rhule look good.
There's a bunch of folks who dislike Baylor on the free board and don't want Rhule to win conference because it will lessen the washed out one's accomplishments.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.

This story (which was posted on the pay side with common sense responses) along with comments at the draft by others validate the thought that a quarterback should play in a pro style offense in college to get drafted higher.
Sounds like you are getting a little bit snooty, my friend. Why are you even hanging out here with us trailer trash posters? Did you eat the Grey Poupon???
I m just posting the reality these guys do not want to accept because it makes Rhule look good.
There's a bunch of folks who dislike Baylor on the free board and don't want Rhule to win conference because it will lessen the washed out one's accomplishments.
Not sure I agree with you. I think there are a handful of folks here that are skeptical about Rhule's ability to take Baylor to the upper tier of college football but I don't think I know anyone here that wants him to fail. There is a difference. .
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
CNC
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Exactly what RD2 just said!!!
xiledinok
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.

This story (which was posted on the pay side with common sense responses) along with comments at the draft by others validate the thought that a quarterback should play in a pro style offense in college to get drafted higher.
Sounds like you are getting a little bit snooty, my friend. Why are you even hanging out here with us trailer trash posters? Did you eat the Grey Poupon???
I m just posting the reality these guys do not want to accept because it makes Rhule look good.
There's a bunch of folks who dislike Baylor on the free board and don't want Rhule to win conference because it will lessen the washed out one's accomplishments.
Not sure I agree with you. I think there are a handful of folks here that are skeptical about Rhule's ability to take Baylor to the upper tier of college football but I don't think I know anyone here that wants him to fail. There is a difference. .
Well, I 'll take the NFL people 's view over those who question Rhule who took over and cleaned house like he was supposed to do to end the embarrassment caused by the others.
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Just saw this on TCU fan blog. Really!?
https://forum.killerfrogs.com/index.php?threads/baylortears.186817/
Forest Bueller
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TerranceJ said:

Just saw this on TCU fan blog. Really!?
https://forum.killerfrogs.com/index.php?threads/baylortears.186817/


Dang.

That is the definition of living rent free in someones head. Pathetic really.
CHP Bear
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xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.

This story (which was posted on the pay side with common sense responses) along with comments at the draft by others validate the thought that a quarterback should play in a pro style offense in college to get drafted higher.
Sounds like you are getting a little bit snooty, my friend. Why are you even hanging out here with us trailer trash posters? Did you eat the Grey Poupon???
I m just posting the reality these guys do not want to accept because it makes Rhule look good.
There's a bunch of folks who dislike Baylor on the free board and don't want Rhule to win conference because it will lessen the washed out one's accomplishments.
Not sure I agree with you. I think there are a handful of folks here that are skeptical about Rhule's ability to take Baylor to the upper tier of college football but I don't think I know anyone here that wants him to fail. There is a difference. .
Well, I 'll take the NFL people 's view over those who question Rhule who took over and cleaned house like he was supposed to do to end the embarrassment caused by the others.

If we stuck to the NFL view, Brady would be selling Bat Guano and Brian Leaf would be the Super Bowl champ.
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CHP Bear said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

xiledinok said:

I brought the A team out today.
Liberty and UTSA. Back to back. Never forget!
Is that why you are upset? Stidham could have stuck around and made a difference in a pro offense. Remember I just mentioned what was factually stated on ESPN.

CNC, this board is entertainment and passing time while doing other things at a keyboard. You 'll need to keep us NFL fans updated on the Patriot camp and life as Tom Brady's backup. Best job in the history of backup QBs.
Stidham made the right decision to leave. At the time, for all we knew, the BOR was going to voluntarily discontinue football to save their own asses. Nothing would surprise me with that bunch. Then and even now.
Well, this column and what was said on ESPN'S draft coverage are not in line with yours or many posts on this thread. Perhaps, he will hang in there against NFL blitzes better than the tough times at Baylor.
Does he go higher than Nc State's 24 year old quarterback sticking around at Baylor in a pro set? Most likely.
Could have a chosen better on his transfer and got poor advice (and self serving advice)? Yes and yes.
I don't give ESPN near the credibility that you do. You seem to almost worship them. They have an agenda and live in the world of Disney. You are welcome to go to them for your football expertise but I think I will look elsewhere.

This story (which was posted on the pay side with common sense responses) along with comments at the draft by others validate the thought that a quarterback should play in a pro style offense in college to get drafted higher.
Sounds like you are getting a little bit snooty, my friend. Why are you even hanging out here with us trailer trash posters? Did you eat the Grey Poupon???
I m just posting the reality these guys do not want to accept because it makes Rhule look good.
There's a bunch of folks who dislike Baylor on the free board and don't want Rhule to win conference because it will lessen the washed out one's accomplishments.
Not sure I agree with you. I think there are a handful of folks here that are skeptical about Rhule's ability to take Baylor to the upper tier of college football but I don't think I know anyone here that wants him to fail. There is a difference. .
Well, I 'll take the NFL people 's view over those who question Rhule who took over and cleaned house like he was supposed to do to end the embarrassment caused by the others.

If we stuck to the NFL view, Brady would be selling Bat Guano and Brian Leaf would be the Super Bowl champ.
I think you mean Ryan Leaf. But Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers were all highly touted first round picks.

Yes there have been Joe Montanas, Tom Bradys, and Tony Romos over the course of football, but there's a reason that the before mentioned were coveted number one picks (with the exception of Rodgers who shockingly slid down draft boards in 2005 and became a steal at pick 24 of the first round.)
Mahan1979
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TCU's pathetic!
 
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