If the football Gods had an oven to invite dumb, naive, gullible and confused football fans, they could have quiet a cookout at McLane Stadium this morning and afternoon from what I've read on this board about 2017.

xiledinok said:

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If the football Gods had an oven to invite dumb, naive, gullible and confused football fans, they could have quiet a cookout at McLane Stadium this morning and afternoon from what I've read on this board about 2017.

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And your are the bastion of football logic?

Havnt you been banned enough? Can't we just get back to football discussion? Versus the need to just tear down others when they don't agree with your personal narrative?

Bears are about to go 2-0. It's a good day. Find a way to enjoy it.

Sic'em

xiledinok said:

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If the football Gods had an oven to invite dumb, naive, gullible and confused football fans, they could have quiet a cookout at McLane Stadium this morning and afternoon from what I've read on this board about 2017.

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So all those in attendance who believe in Rhule are "dumb, naive, guilible and confused football fans"?

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xiledinok said:

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If the football Gods had an oven to invite dumb, naive, gullible and confused football fans, they could have quiet a cookout at McLane Stadium this morning and afternoon from what I've read on this board about 2017.

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And your are the bastion of football logic?

Havnt you been banned enough? Can't we just get back to football discussion? Versus the need to just tear down others when they don't agree with your personal narrative?

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Enough knowledge to know the only way you win a championship with no defense and always out scoring people is if no other team shows up.
I'll use the NFL example. One player in two years to the NFL. It was a Rhule transfer.
You might be able to out athlete your conference but eventually you run into guys who can match up.

Outside the bubble, Baylor was considered close to an NCAA sanctioned school in 2017. I m glad we have Charlie Brewer in 2019 than the gunslinger at Tulsa. Our talent evaluation is better as well. In 2017, we had an underdeveloped and incapable roster with our schemes.

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xiledinok said:

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If the football Gods had an oven to invite dumb, naive, gullible and confused football fans, they could have quiet a cookout at McLane Stadium this morning and afternoon from what I've read on this board about 2017.

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So all those in attendance who believe in Rhule are "dumb, nave, guilible and confused football fans"?

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Has nothing to do with Rhule. It's easy to understand why 2017 was a wash when looking at the big picture. There's a whole bunch of knowledge to be gained by understanding football before 2010 and outside the bubble.

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

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Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

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This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

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Bear8084 said:

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Krieg said:

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Bear8084 said:

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Krieg said:

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S11 bringing some straight facts again.

Those thinking that he was just stepping in to a fully loaded team from '16 have blinders on. CMR stepped into quite a rebuilding project. Yes, he wants to do things his way, but he didn't purposely tank a season just to rebuild his way. The team was still rocked by the scandal and as S11 mentioned, graduations and injuries. The program needed to be rebuilt physically and emotionally, and CMR seems to be doing that.

Of course there is still a long way to go, and much improvements to made, but I think CMR has this program on the right track and we are lucky to have him. Sic 'Em.

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At least respond to what I wrote instead of what you imagined I wrote. Nobody said we were "fullt loaded." Everyone says we were better than our record.

I also never said he tanked the season. S11 implied I said it but I didn't. I said he didn't try to maximize wins in his first year but rather in this year and next year. He seemed to feel implementing his own stuff 100% from the start was better long term than a slower transition that would've won more games in year 1. He was ok with losing more up front, if it happened, to win more later. Now we get to see if it worked.

He didn't try to lose games, he just was ok with it for his vision of the future. There's a massive difference between the two. Let's hope it works.

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That's pretty much implying he tanked the season because he didn't want to change to the magical spread offense (which we have been running btw) and ignoring how bad off the team really was in '17 and really, in '16 as Milli brought up. No coach is happy with losing or ok with it, especially having the season that they did. CMR even said in interviews it was hard on him, the staff, and the already beleaguered players. As S11 has posted over and over again, the program was not in a good place when CMR took over. They weren't going to win much past 3 if they were to steal a few that season.

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Just so I make sure we're on the same page, you believe Rhule set out in 2017 to win as many games as he possibly could in 2017?

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What coach doesn't? Just because he didn't, doesn't mean he wasn't trying his best to do so in a in a bad situation.

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A good high school coaching friend of mine (a guy with nearly 300 wins on his resume) has been going to Baylor and Texas spring practices for years now and he said practices that first year under Rhule were insanely physical. Like unusually so ... and that they've scaled that back dramatically in the years since. That basically confirmed what I believed at the time and told guys here repeatedly: Rhule's top priority that first season was laying the foundation for his program and finding out who really wanted to be a part of it going forward. And in that way, it very closely mirrored Year 1 at Temple.

I, personally, was and am fine with that. That 1-11 season sucked, but it was a temporary setback on the way to a thorough and rapid rebuild. Love him or hate him (I love him), Matt Rhule has his own method of program building, and he's going to do it his way regardless. You either get on board with it or you don't, but that train isn't waiting for anyone. A lot of folks here mistook that philosophical decision for incompetence. The truth, though, is he's always known what he was doing, and the program's in better shape now for having gone through that 2017 season.

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Good points, I think my issue are those saying wins didn't matter to him and if he just switched to the spread (which we have been running anyways, the B1G offense myth is frustrating) he would've won more because he just had the talent at his fingertips, all failing to take into account that the team lost quite a few key players and were playing with a duct taped o-line. All of those, along with CMR rebuilding led to that what is turning out to be a lost season.

And I agree, this program and team now looks to be stronger because of that season.

Bear8084 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bear8084 said:

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Krieg said:

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Bear8084 said:

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Krieg said:

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Bear8084 said:

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S11 bringing some straight facts again.

Those thinking that he was just stepping in to a fully loaded team from '16 have blinders on. CMR stepped into quite a rebuilding project. Yes, he wants to do things his way, but he didn't purposely tank a season just to rebuild his way. The team was still rocked by the scandal and as S11 mentioned, graduations and injuries. The program needed to be rebuilt physically and emotionally, and CMR seems to be doing that.

Of course there is still a long way to go, and much improvements to made, but I think CMR has this program on the right track and we are lucky to have him. Sic 'Em.

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At least respond to what I wrote instead of what you imagined I wrote. Nobody said we were "fullt loaded." Everyone says we were better than our record.

I also never said he tanked the season. S11 implied I said it but I didn't. I said he didn't try to maximize wins in his first year but rather in this year and next year. He seemed to feel implementing his own stuff 100% from the start was better long term than a slower transition that would've won more games in year 1. He was ok with losing more up front, if it happened, to win more later. Now we get to see if it worked.

He didn't try to lose games, he just was ok with it for his vision of the future. There's a massive difference between the two. Let's hope it works.

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That's pretty much implying he tanked the season because he didn't want to change to the magical spread offense (which we have been running btw) and ignoring how bad off the team really was in '17 and really, in '16 as Milli brought up. No coach is happy with losing or ok with it, especially having the season that they did. CMR even said in interviews it was hard on him, the staff, and the already beleaguered players. As S11 has posted over and over again, the program was not in a good place when CMR took over. They weren't going to win much past 3 if they were to steal a few that season.

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Just so I make sure we're on the same page, you believe Rhule set out in 2017 to win as many games as he possibly could in 2017?

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What coach doesn't? Just because he didn't, doesn't mean he wasn't trying his best to do so in a in a bad situation.

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A good high school coaching friend of mine (a guy with nearly 300 wins on his resume) has been going to Baylor and Texas spring practices for years now and he said practices that first year under Rhule were insanely physical. Like unusually so ... and that they've scaled that back dramatically in the years since. That basically confirmed what I believed at the time and told guys here repeatedly: Rhule's top priority that first season was laying the foundation for his program and finding out who really wanted to be a part of it going forward. And in that way, it very closely mirrored Year 1 at Temple.

I, personally, was and am fine with that. That 1-11 season sucked, but it was a temporary setback on the way to a thorough and rapid rebuild. Love him or hate him (I love him), Matt Rhule has his own method of program building, and he's going to do it his way regardless. You either get on board with it or you don't, but that train isn't waiting for anyone. A lot of folks here mistook that philosophical decision for incompetence. The truth, though, is he's always known what he was doing, and the program's in better shape now for having gone through that 2017 season.

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Good points, I think my issue are those saying wins didn't matter to him and if he just switched to the spread (which we have been running anyways, the B1G offense myth is frustrating) he would've won more because he just had the talent at his fingertips, all failing to take into account that the team lost quite a few key players and were playing with a duct taped o-line. All of those, along with CMR rebuilding led to that what is turning out to be a lost season.

And I agree, this program and team now looks to be stronger because of that season.

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I agree completely with that. Part of the reason that 1-11 season didn't bother me the way it did many here is that I felt that team had a four- or five-win ceiling. The difference between one and four wins doesn't make enough difference to me to stunt the future growth of the program. It was best in my opinion to rip the band-aid off and let the healing begin.

Going from Briles to Rhule, the differences were so vast in virtually every facet of the program that Rhule didn't have much choice but to level the building and start over. It would have been foolhardy IMO to take shortcuts for an extra win or two in what was always likely to be a losing season.

SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

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Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

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This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

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Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

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Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

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This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

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Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

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Are you the police here?

bear2be2 said:

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Bear8084 said:

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Krieg said:

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Bear8084 said:

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Krieg said:

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Bear8084 said:

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S11 bringing some straight facts again.

Those thinking that he was just stepping in to a fully loaded team from '16 have blinders on. CMR stepped into quite a rebuilding project. Yes, he wants to do things his way, but he didn't purposely tank a season just to rebuild his way. The team was still rocked by the scandal and as S11 mentioned, graduations and injuries. The program needed to be rebuilt physically and emotionally, and CMR seems to be doing that.

Of course there is still a long way to go, and much improvements to made, but I think CMR has this program on the right track and we are lucky to have him. Sic 'Em.

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At least respond to what I wrote instead of what you imagined I wrote. Nobody said we were "fullt loaded." Everyone says we were better than our record.

I also never said he tanked the season. S11 implied I said it but I didn't. I said he didn't try to maximize wins in his first year but rather in this year and next year. He seemed to feel implementing his own stuff 100% from the start was better long term than a slower transition that would've won more games in year 1. He was ok with losing more up front, if it happened, to win more later. Now we get to see if it worked.

He didn't try to lose games, he just was ok with it for his vision of the future. There's a massive difference between the two. Let's hope it works.

---

That's pretty much implying he tanked the season because he didn't want to change to the magical spread offense (which we have been running btw) and ignoring how bad off the team really was in '17 and really, in '16 as Milli brought up. No coach is happy with losing or ok with it, especially having the season that they did. CMR even said in interviews it was hard on him, the staff, and the already beleaguered players. As S11 has posted over and over again, the program was not in a good place when CMR took over. They weren't going to win much past 3 if they were to steal a few that season.

---

Just so I make sure we're on the same page, you believe Rhule set out in 2017 to win as many games as he possibly could in 2017?

---

What coach doesn't? Just because he didn't, doesn't mean he wasn't trying his best to do so in a in a bad situation.

---

A good high school coaching friend of mine (a guy with nearly 300 wins on his resume) has been going to Baylor and Texas spring practices for years now and he said practices that first year under Rhule were insanely physical. Like unusually so ... and that they've scaled that back dramatically in the years since. That basically confirmed what I believed at the time and told guys here repeatedly: Rhule's top priority that first season was laying the foundation for his program and finding out who really wanted to be a part of it going forward. And in that way, it very closely mirrored Year 1 at Temple.

I, personally, was and am fine with that. That 1-11 season sucked, but it was a temporary setback on the way to a thorough and rapid rebuild. Love him or hate him (I love him), Matt Rhule has his own method of program building, and he's going to do it his way regardless. You either get on board with it or you don't, but that train isn't waiting for anyone. A lot of folks here mistook that philosophical decision for incompetence. The truth, though, is he's always known what he was doing, and the program's in better shape now for having gone through that 2017 season.

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Great post. Thanks for the information. Sounds like Bear Bryant. Agree that this program is in a better place because of 2017.

Not sure any team is in a better place because they had the worst season in 100 years, but , this year should definitely continue Baylor's return to relevance. Going 8-5 at least would be another good sign.

SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

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Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

---

This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

---

Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

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Are you the police here?

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Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

---

Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

---

This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

---

Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

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Are you the police here?

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Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

---

Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

---

This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

---

Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

---

Are you the police here?

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Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

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I didn't mention S11. Again. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. We are all Baylor fans. Almost all support Rhule. You deciding who is "anti-Baylor" simply because their football opinion is different than your OPINION ...is just odd.

Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

---

Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

---

This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

---

Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

---

Are you the police here?

---

Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

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I didn't mention S11. Again. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. We are all Baylor fans. Almost all support Rhule. You deciding who is "anti-Baylor" simply because their football opinion is different than your OPINION ...is just odd.

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You do not seem excepting of differing opinions.

SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

---

Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

---

This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

---

Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

---

Are you the police here?

---

Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

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I didn't mention S11. Again. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. We are all Baylor fans. Almost all support Rhule. You deciding who is "anti-Baylor" simply because their football opinion is different than your OPINION ...is just odd.

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You do not seem excepting of differing opinions.

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Your entitled to that "opinion". It's nothing more than that. And you can still be a Baylor fan. See how that works.


RELAX....It's a Great day to be a Baylor fan. Sic'em.

Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

---

Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

---

This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

---

Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

---

Are you the police here?

---

Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

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I didn't mention S11. Again. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. We are all Baylor fans. Almost all support Rhule. You deciding who is "anti-Baylor" simply because their football opinion is different than your OPINION ...is just odd.

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You do not seem excepting of differing opinions.

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Your entitled to that "opinion". It's nothing more than that. And you can still be a Baylor fan. See how that works.


RELAX....It's a Great day to be a Baylor fan. Sic'em.

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You sure have changed your tune. That is not what you have said in the past. By the way, with regard to Rhule's first year, S11 supported my opinions with a plethora of facts. I am just glad that folks on the free board are realizing there is life after CAB.

I will agree to move forward if everyone else can.

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Dman said:

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You're only here to troll.

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You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

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Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

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This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

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Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

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Are you the police here?

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Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

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I didn't mention S11. Again. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. We are all Baylor fans. Almost all support Rhule. You deciding who is "anti-Baylor" simply because their football opinion is different than your OPINION ...is just odd.

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You do not seem excepting of differing opinions.

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Your entitled to that "opinion". It's nothing more than that. And you can still be a Baylor fan. See how that works.


RELAX....It's a Great day to be a Baylor fan. Sic'em.

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You sure have changed your tune. That is not what you have said in the past. By the way, with regard to Rhule's first year, S11 supported my opinions with a plethora of facts. I am just glad that folks on the free board are realizing there is life after CAB.

I will agree to move forward if everyone else can.

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I've Supported Rhule from day 1. Actually I've been very consistent. I have no problem with other football opinions. I have a problem with posters who use racist remarks and call others child molesters just to justify their non-football narratives. I won't even mention his name..we all know.

You'll "move forward if others move forward"? Everyone is entitled to their football opinions. Why not just move forward and let others be themselves? We are all Baylor.

Sic'em

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

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Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

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This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

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Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

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Are you the police here?

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Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

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I didn't mention S11. Again. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. We are all Baylor fans. Almost all support Rhule. You deciding who is "anti-Baylor" simply because their football opinion is different than your OPINION ...is just odd.

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You do not seem excepting of differing opinions.

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Your entitled to that "opinion". It's nothing more than that. And you can still be a Baylor fan. See how that works.


RELAX....It's a Great day to be a Baylor fan. Sic'em.

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You sure have changed your tune. That is not what you have said in the past. By the way, with regard to Rhule's first year, S11 supported my opinions with a plethora of facts. I am just glad that folks on the free board are realizing there is life after CAB.

I will agree to move forward if everyone else can.

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I've Supported Rhule from day 1. Actually I've been very consistent. I have no problem with other football opinions. I have a problem with posters who use racist remarks and call others child molesters just to justify their non-football narratives.

You'll love forward if others move forward? Everyone is entitled to their football opinions. Why not just move forward and let others be themselves? We are all Baylor.

Sic'em

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Not you necessarily, but in the past this free board was an echo chamber for Briles got screwed. No other football talk occurred.

I am grateful the school made appropriate changes and we have a great coach like Matt Rhule. I hated to see Rhule get trashed by others on this site just because folks were bitter over Briles' demise.

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Let's enjoy the beatdown this finally semi-rebuilt roster is dishing out.

Enough is enough

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Agreed. Far too many threads on this board devolve into 1-on-1 pissing matches. Get your jabs in and move on. It kills otherwise good discussions when two posters are going back and forth for a full page.

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Let's enjoy the beatdown this finally semi-rebuilt roster is dishing out.

Enough is enough

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Agreed. Far too many threads on this board devolve into 1-on-1 pissing matches. Get your jabs in and move on. It kills otherwise good discussions when two posters are going back and forth for a full page.

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At least take the 1 to 1 stuff to PM!

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Noted. Agreed. Like I said...We are all Baylor.

Good day to be a bear.

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Let's enjoy the beatdown this finally semi-rebuilt roster is dishing out.

Enough is enough

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Cool
Cease and desist

Can we delete this thread?

I always thought it was funny when larry the cable guy said the word "hind-end"

I don't understand the disagreement. The 17' team was a 3 to 4 win football team at minimum. Not hard to discern that. Doesn't matter now.

I believe Kreig is kind of right. He wasn't purposely losing but he cared more about process and not deviating than maxing short term wins that season. Nothing sinister but K is right here. Some disagreed with the approach as many great coaches show immediate signs within first few games. But some don't. Again not that controversial.

Was he setting a low baseline so he could trend higher easily. Not my contention there if that's what K is implying but not unprecedented.

The team played their best game in years yesterday. Anyone who understands what they're are watching knows that. Look at the movement. Look at the anticipation. It's smoother and sharper. Angles being taken are crisper. The team is physical. I see some signs.

I like our skill talent a lot. Hopeful but uncertain on o line, defense against real comp. Would like a few of those d lineman back for depth but like the starters ok. Best rbs we've had since I can remember. Our receivers are very solid. Qb is good to very good. Dbs are maybe the most athletic across the board in years. Interested to see how it plays.

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Krieg said:

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You're only here to troll.

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No
You and several like you troll the fine sic em site with your anti Baylor rhetoric. Sometimes it is necessary to shut down the nonsense talking points with facts. I was glad S11 used his knowledge of football facts to discredit you. I don't think you would last a second on the premium side with your nonsense.

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Why so sensitive? Are you faculty? Was there a vote on who made you the "anti-Baylor" police? I don't know Krieg from Adam, but he's on other threads discussing and hoping/predicting when Baylor cracks the top 25. All your doing is policing those who don't agree with your opinion.

Again...this is a football forum. We are all FINALLY talking football. Lots of opinions. Some you may agree with. Many you won't. Relax. Or if the premium side is more to your liking...maybe spend more time where you'd be a little more happier?

---

This post is the pot calling the kettle black. You attack people who don't agree with you more than anyone on this board. Sorry I bring a different perspective to this crew holding on to the past.

---

Care to count on this thread alone how many posts you've made correcting others opinions...with your opinions, that you think are facts.

It's a football board. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. The VAST majority in this thread all admit a common theme. They support Rhule. Enjoy!

---

Are you the police here?

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Not even close. We are all Baylor fans. Even those that disagree with your "facts" (opinions). Breathe deep. Relax. It's game day. Baylor will be 2-0 shortly.

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S11 brought the facts

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I didn't mention S11. Again. Relax. Don't be so sensitive. We are all Baylor fans. Almost all support Rhule. You deciding who is "anti-Baylor" simply because their football opinion is different than your OPINION ...is just odd.

---

You do not seem excepting of differing opinions.

---

Your entitled to that "opinion". It's nothing more than that. And you can still be a Baylor fan. See how that works.


RELAX....It's a Great day to be a Baylor fan. Sic'em.

---

You sure have changed your tune. That is not what you have said in the past. By the way, with regard to Rhule's first year, S11 supported my opinions with a plethora of facts. I am just glad that folks on the free board are realizing there is life after CAB.

I will agree to move forward if everyone else can.

---

I've Supported Rhule from day 1. Actually I've been very consistent. I have no problem with other football opinions. I have a problem with posters who use racist remarks and call others child molesters just to justify their non-football narratives.

You'll love forward if others move forward? Everyone is entitled to their football opinions. Why not just move forward and let others be themselves? We are all Baylor.

Sic'em

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Not you necessarily, but in the past this free board was an echo chamber for Briles got screwed. No other football talk occurred.

I am grateful the school made appropriate changes and we have a great coach like Matt Rhule. I hated to see Rhule get trashed by others on this site just because folks were bitter over Briles' demise.

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It's ok if people think Briles got railroaded. It's also ok to believe that and still support Rhule. It's also ok to think that Briles is a better coach than Rhule or that Rhule is a better coach than Briles. No need to revise history or to trash anyone for their opinions.