My read is Hocutt is backing his new coach here, much like a manager in a MLB game when his player is about to get ejected. The new TT coach is just learning how bad B12 refs are, so take the hit for him.

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Just giving you a hard time.

Hocutt really is a moron, though. Given everything that is going right with TTU athletics, why do that to yourself?

There were plenty of missed calls throughout the game, which we have all acknowledged, but we'd be losing our minds if that particular situation were reversed, and we know it. However, I also think our AD wouldn't be dumb enough to succumb to the demands of the message board/twitter mafia. Oh well. One more reason I'm glad we have our administration and not anyone else's.

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To be fair I doubt that hardly anyone else's admistration or AD to be specific would have pulled what Hocutt pulled.

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For once, I compliment the Big 12.

I wish their statement went further, but I applaud the fact that they issued it and issued a very significant fine against TT's AD.

It's also bad that a former TT chancellor wants to raise money to pay the fine. I guess he worries that the AD will run out of pizza and tortilla money.

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Has the Big 12 issued any official statement to support or counter the Holcut's claim? If not, they should. I would not expect them to throw their own officiating crew under the bus so they should issue a statement clarifying exactly what they did say to him, if anything.

He'll Kirb his rhetoric next time

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BearlyBeloved said:

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For once, I compliment the Big 12.

I wish their statement went further, but I applaud the fact that they issued it and issued a very significant fine against TT's AD.

It's also bad that a former TT chancellor wants to raise money to pay the fine. I guess he worries that the AD will run out of pizza and tortilla money.

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Has the Big 12 issued any official statement to support or counter the Holcut's claim? If not, they should. I would not expect them to throw their own officiating crew under the bus so they should issue a statement clarifying exactly what they did say to him, if anything.

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I think the sanctioning of Hocutt says enough about the matter in their eyes. They probably take the position that his claims merit no need to respond with a literal statement about the matter.

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historian said:

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Has the Big 12 issued any official statement to support or counter the Holcut's claim? If not, they should. I would not expect them to throw their own officiating crew under the bus so they should issue a statement clarifying exactly what they did say to him, if anything.

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I think the sanctioning of Hocutt says enough about the matter in their eyes. They probably take the position that his claims merit no need to respond with a literal statement about the matter.

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One would hope so. But considering how much they keep moaning & groaning about it (& the media), an absolute statement by the Big 12 of exactly what they did say to Holcut about the matter would be helpful.

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McCavebear said:

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tt still owes Mike Leach 900 K. CJK5H

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Try $2.1MM.....and there is ZERO proof that Craig James did NOT kill 5 hookers while at SMU. None at all......

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That was supposed to be a false start. He just stated it wrong. And he is POS referee anyway. These guys need their own merit system to weed out these has beens. Defee is the only ref worth his salt in the B12. That is why he was chosen for UT-OU, Hope we get him Sat.

And even if it was a blown call it did not guarantee them a win anyway. The non intentional grounding call was a huge call. It ought to be obvious call when you call that. The TV guys said it was because a player was outside the numbers...well, yeah. about the time the ball finally hit the ground. Also on replay if Lynch jumps and goes for the ball instead of hitting Jett he gets that ball. I know it is a bang bang type thing and he was going for the safety sack, but just sayin if he tries to bat the ball he had it.

Re-reading that list after my faux pas. Scott Stricklin is former Baylor assistant AD.

Its interesting..and sad that i jnow this..that you mention Defee..he is the best by far..Rhule said so after Iowa St...but his crew was horrible that game..remember the non roughing call on our punter..and blow to Charlie's head?

Defee told Joel Klatt of Fox after Texas OU that he called that unsportsmanlike penalty on both teams so they could manage the game better..i thought that was brilliant..it was a well played game because. every player knew theyd be ejected without warning.

What's Hocutt going to do when there's a bad call this Saturday?

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What's Hocutt going to do when there's a bad call this Saturday?

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ESPN will break-in to let him make his complaint live during the game, instead of having to wait until afterwards.

Honestly, the Big XII ought to have a policy about others bearing the cost of a fine they levy against an AD or coach. What is the point of having a fine if it can just be paid by the boosters? We could easily raise $25K to pay a fine and so could all member schools. Basically, this makes a joke out of the discipline of fining. They should fine Texas Tech $250K for proposing to pay Hocut's fine and publicly undermining conference discipline.

Or if they were really serious, $25 million. But they would have to do the same thing to super rich Texas for all of their violations.

OsoCoreyell said:

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Honestly, the Big XII ought to have a policy about others bearing the cost of a fine they levy against an AD or coach. What is the point of having a fine if it can just be paid by the boosters? We could easily raise $25K to pay a fine and so could all member schools. Basically, this makes a joke out of the discipline of fining. They should fine Texas Tech $250K for proposing to pay Hocut's fine and publicly undermining conference discipline.

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Well I think it takes care of itself. I doubt BMDs are going to want to have to keep paying for an AD or coach's mouth. 25K isnt much to them nor is it to Hocutt actually but no one wants to be repeatedly nickle and dimed.

PartyBear said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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Honestly, the Big XII ought to have a policy about others bearing the cost of a fine they levy against an AD or coach. What is the point of having a fine if it can just be paid by the boosters? We could easily raise $25K to pay a fine and so could all member schools. Basically, this makes a joke out of the discipline of fining. They should fine Texas Tech $250K for proposing to pay Hocut's fine and publicly undermining conference discipline.

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Well I think it takes care of itself. I doubt BMDs are going to want to have to keep paying for an AD or coach's mouth. 25K isnt much to them nor is it to Hocutt actually but no one wants to be repeatedly nickle and dimed.

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My point is that there is no point to the fine if the person it was supposed to deter simply has the deterrence taken away by the institution. If we have to deter the institutions (since they effectively the ones underwriting the bad behavior) then the number needs to be a lot bigger - OR there should be a policy of separate fines when you are found to be covering for a disciplined individual.

BAYLOR FAN SPEAKS OUT AGAINST GRACE
Video at 10:00

or something like that

Tounge in cheek. Don't take offense

Tech going full ******

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Read the whole response on this tweet.

I hope Tech loses every game they play on a last second call that goes against them.

gobears20 said:

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Tech going full ******

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Funny how he never bothers to mention Briles is a Tech alumnus that his administration desperately wanted coaching Tech football.

More important, none of them (Tech, media, etc) ever mention that James Lynch sacked their QB in the end zone, who then threw it away wildly, which is intentional grounding, and the officials never called any of that. We should have had 2 points--and the ball in the 4th quarter. Game over, Baylor still wins. Those wusses in the panhandle need to stop whining so much. They are embarrassing themselves.

What the hell is that alleged (is he really a Dean there?) Dean stupid? What did the XII ever do to Baylor??? He hasn't heard they have been getting a portion of our revenue over the past 2-3 fiscal years??

Does he not know the Tech starting QB has been found by Tech to have sexually assaulted a coed?

gobears20 said:

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Tech going full ******

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Unfortunately the narrative Baylor's BOR allowed to permeate in the media and continued to perpetuate allowed for this sort of "tweet" to happen over and over again, irregardless of how false it may be.

Pretty much.

It would be a mischaracterization to say that all the fans are duped simply because we're winning again.

I'll never trust those mofos.

Where's my pizza, Dr. Dean?

This guy from Tech is throwing stones from his very glass house.

The civic illiteracy of Dr Dean's tweet is breathtaking. Does he really think the 1st Amendment has anything to do with whether the rules of a private association can limit The speech of representatives of a member institution? Where did this guy get a degree? Just embarrassing that this guy is from Texas. Ugh. He's got to be some kind of Aggie. So Archie Bunker.

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As he should do. Tech's continued tantrum at losing one game has already turned into losing a second, let's see if they lose a 3rd saturday evening.

whitetrash said:

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As he should do. Tech's continued tantrum at losing one game has already turned into losing a second, let's see if they lose a 3rd saturday evening.

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Yes. They are proving themselves to be sore losers and not gaining any sympathy (except among a few Iowa State fans).

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gobears20 said:

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Tech going full ******

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Unfortunately the narrative Baylor's BOR allowed to permeate in the media and continued to perpetuate allowed for this sort of "tweet" to happen over and over again, irregardless of how false it may be.

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Dean was just reflecting the view of the Baylor BOR

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Wineguy89 said:

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McCavebear said:

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tt still owes Mike Leach 900 K. CJK5H

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Try $2.1MM.....and there is ZERO proof that Craig James did NOT kill 5 hookers while at SMU. None at all......

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. And yet, there is abundant proof that Leach earned his bonus and that tech never paid him. Now, "The curse of the Pirate " is on them!