Ursus Americanus said:

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I think the 13/14 team destroys every team on our schedule this year except for OU. Because it was a home game and because this OU team has a poor defense, I think we still win that game handily and are easily sitting undefeated.

I have been pleasantly surprised by our team this year, but OSU, KSU, and TCU are all down, and TX is their usual average team. There are probably at least 20 other teams this year that would have only 1 loss with our schedule.

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You kinda suck

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Don't understand the hurt feelings people get for posts they don't agree with - I don't mean anything personally toward anyone. I may be way off base, but that's my honest opinion. Our schedule this year has not been particularly difficult. The Big 12 just isn't that good this year. I think the Big 12 was better overall a few years ago.

That being said, we are getting much better as the season progresses this year. I'm not saying we are chopped liver or anything. I was not impressed with our record midway through the season, but I have been very impressed with the way we have played the last 2 weeks. This team plays with heart. I still think any number of teams would have our identical record playing our schedule, and quite a few would be undefeated.

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You realize they actually measure this, right? The metric is called strength of record, and ours is currently eighth in the country. And our current strength of schedule (52nd) is better than both 2013 (62nd) and 2014 (60th) seasons, suggesting that your premise here is based more on internal bias and faulty memory than actual fact.

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I'm not comparing our schedule this year strictly to the 2013 schedule, I was merely stating that I think the big 12 during the Briles era was better. It seemed every year, there were 3 - 4 really strong teams (the names sometimes changed). This year there are two If you count Baylor. Our most impressive game was probably the close loss to OU. Our best wins were over decent at best OSU and Kansas State teams. Our record is outstanding, but I'm just not sure how good we really are. Don't know why that is so controversial. We'll have a chance to prove it in the championship game and hopefully in a good bowl game. I think we need to look out for Kansas though we definitely don't need to be overlooking that one.

When you go beyond the schedule and factor in the way we dominated most of the teams on our schedule a few years ago, that is also a big differentiator.

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I think you hold to a revisionist history.

2013 Big 12 records:

#13 Baylor 11-2
#6 Oklahoma 11-2
#17 Oklahoma State 10-3
Texas 8-5
Kansas State 8-5
Texas Tech 8-5
TCU 4-8
West Virginia 4-8
Iowa State 3-9
Kansas 3-9

2014 Big 12 records:

#7 Baylor 11-2
#3 TCU 12-1
#18 KSU 9-4
Oklahoma 8-5
West Virginia 7-6
Texas 6-7
Oklahoma State 7-6
Texas tech 4-8
Kansas 3-9
Iowa State 2-10


Present Big 12 rankings with one week to go and a conference championship still to play:

#7 Oklahoma 10-1(Play tomorrow)
#9 Baylor 10-1(Play tomorrow)
#21 Oklahoma State 8-3(Play tomorrow)
#23 Iowa State 7-4 (Play tomorrow)
Texas 7-5
Kansas State 7-4(Play tomorrow)
TCU 5-6 (Playing tonight)
West Virginia 4-7 (Playing tonight)
Texas Tech 4-8
Kansas 3-8 (Play tomorrow)

As you can see, every year three teams have finished ranked, right now 4 are ranked with a week left in the season.

And in all three seasons UT has been an unranked mediocrity, OU wasn't ranked at the end of 2014 either.

It's objectively observable that the Big 12 is not down, and it can be argued it is better overall than in 2013 and 2014.

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You should never ever post anything again
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Why? Looks like metrics included.

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He's the butt hurt father of a fired Briles staffer that can't quit trolling Baylor four years after the fact, and is really bitter we might be having our best season ever.

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Hm. Reality certainly is strange if this is the case. That's sure dedication, kinda.

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Ursus Americanus said:

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I think the 13/14 team destroys every team on our schedule this year except for OU. Because it was a home game and because this OU team has a poor defense, I think we still win that game handily and are easily sitting undefeated.

I have been pleasantly surprised by our team this year, but OSU, KSU, and TCU are all down, and TX is their usual average team. There are probably at least 20 other teams this year that would have only 1 loss with our schedule.

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You kinda suck

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Don't understand the hurt feelings people get for posts they don't agree with - I don't mean anything personally toward anyone. I may be way off base, but that's my honest opinion. Our schedule this year has not been particularly difficult. The Big 12 just isn't that good this year. I think the Big 12 was better overall a few years ago.

That being said, we are getting much better as the season progresses this year. I'm not saying we are chopped liver or anything. I was not impressed with our record midway through the season, but I have been very impressed with the way we have played the last 2 weeks. This team plays with heart. I still think any number of teams would have our identical record playing our schedule, and quite a few would be undefeated.

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You realize they actually measure this, right? The metric is called strength of record, and ours is currently eighth in the country. And our current strength of schedule (52nd) is better than both 2013 (62nd) and 2014 (60th) seasons, suggesting that your premise here is based more on internal bias and faulty memory than actual fact.

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I'm not comparing our schedule this year strictly to the 2013 schedule, I was merely stating that I think the big 12 during the Briles era was better. It seemed every year, there were 3 - 4 really strong teams (the names sometimes changed). This year there are two If you count Baylor. Our most impressive game was probably the close loss to OU. Our best wins were over decent at best OSU and Kansas State teams. Our record is outstanding, but I'm just not sure how good we really are. Don't know why that is so controversial. We'll have a chance to prove it in the championship game and hopefully in a good bowl game. I think we need to look out for Kansas though we definitely don't need to be overlooking that one.

When you go beyond the schedule and factor in the way we dominated most of the teams on our schedule a few years ago, that is also a big differentiator.

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I think you hold to a revisionist history.

2013 Big 12 records:

#13 Baylor 11-2
#6 Oklahoma 11-2
#17 Oklahoma State 10-3
Texas 8-5
Kansas State 8-5
Texas Tech 8-5
TCU 4-8
West Virginia 4-8
Iowa State 3-9
Kansas 3-9

2014 Big 12 records:

#7 Baylor 11-2
#3 TCU 12-1
#18 KSU 9-4
Oklahoma 8-5
West Virginia 7-6
Texas 6-7
Oklahoma State 7-6
Texas tech 4-8
Kansas 3-9
Iowa State 2-10


Present Big 12 rankings with one week to go and a conference championship still to play:

#7 Oklahoma 10-1(Play tomorrow)
#9 Baylor 10-1(Play tomorrow)
#21 Oklahoma State 8-3(Play tomorrow)
#23 Iowa State 7-4 (Play tomorrow)
Texas 7-5
Kansas State 7-4(Play tomorrow)
TCU 5-6 (Playing tonight)
West Virginia 4-7 (Playing tonight)
Texas Tech 4-8
Kansas 3-8 (Play tomorrow)

As you can see, every year three teams have finished ranked, right now 4 are ranked with a week left in the season.

And in all three seasons UT has been an unranked mediocrity, OU wasn't ranked at the end of 2014 either.

It's objectively observable that the Big 12 is not down, and it can be argued it is better overall than in 2013 and 2014.

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You should never ever post anything again
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Why? Looks like metrics included.

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He's the butt hurt father of a fired Briles staffer that can't quit trolling Baylor four years after the fact, and is really bitter we might be having our best season ever.

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Hm. Reality certainly is strange if this is the case. That's sure dedication, kinda.

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Vindictive behavior makes people do mighty stupid stuff. What's funny is no one remotely of consequence to his son's dismissal knows of or cares about his message board angst.

We're playing our best ball of the year now, and it's been a magical season having only one loss in spite of several close calls. We may truly be worthy of our ranking now, but I still contend that evaluating how good we are by our record against Texas, OSU, Iowa St, and Kansas State is a crapshoot.

The Big 12 has earned a reputation of being a good conference, so the top 3-4 teams will get the benefit of the doubt in the rankings. However, when you look at this year's Big 12, the best out of conference victories for the entire conference from a brief glance at the schedules were against 6-6 Mississippi State, 6-6 Boston college, 4-7 UCLA, and 4-8 Purdue. There's virtually no way to measure how our conference stacks up to the rest of the college football world. I would say of those 4 out of conference teams, Miss St is the best and is probably on par with the 4 best Big 12 teams we beat.

Because there's no measuring stick you can point to in evaluating us with other teams across the country, you pretty much have to rely on the eye test. A lot of the close calls have probably hurt us, but we are looking good these last 3 weeks.

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We're playing our best ball of the year now, and it's been a magical season having only one loss in spite of several close calls. We may truly be worthy of our ranking now, but I still contend that evaluating how good we are by our record against Texas, OSU, Iowa St, and Kansas State is a crapshoot.

The Big 12 has earned a reputation of being a good conference, so the top 3-4 teams will get the benefit of the doubt in the rankings. However, when you look at this year's Big 12, the best out of conference victories for the entire conference from a brief glance at the schedules were against 6-6 Mississippi State, 6-6 Boston college, 4-7 UCLA, and 4-8 Purdue. There's virtually no way to measure how our conference stacks up to the rest of the college football world. I would say of those 4 out of conference teams, Miss St is the best and is probably on par with the 4 best Big 12 teams we beat.

Because there's no measuring stick you can point to in evaluating us with other teams across the country, you pretty much have to rely on the eye test. A lot of the close calls have probably hurt us, but we are looking good these last 3 weeks.

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Disagree with this. Kansas State bear Miss St by a TD in the road. Kansas St looks like it is worse than Okie St and Iowa State. I'd say there are 5 Big 12 teams at least better than Miss St.

And who knows about Texas? They have had a lot of injuries but at one point they played within a TD of LSU.

We definitely are not the Big 10 or SEC but the Big 12 is better than the ACC and probably the PAC 12 this year.

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We're playing our best ball of the year now, and it's been a magical season having only one loss in spite of several close calls. We may truly be worthy of our ranking now, but I still contend that evaluating how good we are by our record against Texas, OSU, Iowa St, and Kansas State is a crapshoot.

The Big 12 has earned a reputation of being a good conference, so the top 3-4 teams will get the benefit of the doubt in the rankings. However, when you look at this year's Big 12, the best out of conference victories for the entire conference from a brief glance at the schedules were against 6-6 Mississippi State, 6-6 Boston college, 4-7 UCLA, and 4-8 Purdue. There's virtually no way to measure how our conference stacks up to the rest of the college football world. I would say of those 4 out of conference teams, Miss St is the best and is probably on par with the 4 best Big 12 teams we beat.

Because there's no measuring stick you can point to in evaluating us with other teams across the country, you pretty much have to rely on the eye test. A lot of the close calls have probably hurt us, but we are looking good these last 3 weeks.

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Disagree with this. Kansas State bear Miss St by a TD in the road. Kansas St looks like it is worse than Okie St and Iowa State. I'd say there are 5 Big 12 teams at least better than Miss St.

And who knows about Texas? They have had a lot of injuries but at one point they played within a TD of LSU.

We definitely are not the Big 10 or SEC but the Big 12 is better than the ACC and probably the PAC 12 this year.

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I agree the Big 12 is probably no 3 among the power 5 conferences. The ACC is dreadful.

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Don't forget there's going to be penalties. Likely Rhule's squad has less.

Rex, since you like down talking our program, what about FSU? How many touchdowns will Florida win by this week and how many quarterbacks will FSU mow through while the Gator D tears them up? Give the gamblers some real insider knowledge.

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0&0

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Florida State 7
Florida 30
Halftime

You guys are playing 2 QBs and each QB is getting hit with dot shots in the back. One is in visable pain on sideline. One is picking delay penalties at the end of half.

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I think the 13/14 team destroys every team on our schedule this year except for OU. Because it was a home game and because this OU team has a poor defense, I think we still win that game handily and are easily sitting undefeated.

I have been pleasantly surprised by our team this year, but OSU, KSU, and TCU are all down, and TX is their usual average team. There are probably at least 20 other teams this year that would have only 1 loss with our schedule.

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You kinda suck

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Don't understand the hurt feelings people get for posts they don't agree with - I don't mean anything personally toward anyone. I may be way off base, but that's my honest opinion. Our schedule this year has not been particularly difficult. The Big 12 just isn't that good this year. I think the Big 12 was better overall a few years ago.

That being said, we are getting much better as the season progresses this year. I'm not saying we are chopped liver or anything. I was not impressed with our record midway through the season, but I have been very impressed with the way we have played the last 2 weeks. This team plays with heart. I still think any number of teams would have our identical record playing our schedule, and quite a few would be undefeated.

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You realize they actually measure this, right? The metric is called strength of record, and ours is currently eighth in the country. And our current strength of schedule (52nd) is better than both 2013 (62nd) and 2014 (60th) seasons, suggesting that your premise here is based more on internal bias and faulty memory than actual fact.

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I'm not comparing our schedule this year strictly to the 2013 schedule, I was merely stating that I think the big 12 during the Briles era was better. It seemed every year, there were 3 - 4 really strong teams (the names sometimes changed). This year there are two If you count Baylor. Our most impressive game was probably the close loss to OU. Our best wins were over decent at best OSU and Kansas State teams. Our record is outstanding, but I'm just not sure how good we really are. Don't know why that is so controversial. We'll have a chance to prove it in the championship game and hopefully in a good bowl game. I think we need to look out for Kansas though we definitely don't need to be overlooking that one.

When you go beyond the schedule and factor in the way we dominated most of the teams on our schedule a few years ago, that is also a big differentiator.

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I think you hold to a revisionist history.

2013 Big 12 records:

#13 Baylor 11-2
#6 Oklahoma 11-2
#17 Oklahoma State 10-3
Texas 8-5
Kansas State 8-5
Texas Tech 8-5
TCU 4-8
West Virginia 4-8
Iowa State 3-9
Kansas 3-9

2014 Big 12 records:

#7 Baylor 11-2
#3 TCU 12-1
#18 KSU 9-4
Oklahoma 8-5
West Virginia 7-6
Texas 6-7
Oklahoma State 7-6
Texas tech 4-8
Kansas 3-9
Iowa State 2-10


Present Big 12 rankings with one week to go and a conference championship still to play:

#7 Oklahoma 10-1(Play tomorrow)
#9 Baylor 10-1(Play tomorrow)
#21 Oklahoma State 8-3(Play tomorrow)
#23 Iowa State 7-4 (Play tomorrow)
Texas 7-5
Kansas State 7-4(Play tomorrow)
TCU 5-6 (Playing tonight)
West Virginia 4-7 (Playing tonight)
Texas Tech 4-8
Kansas 3-8 (Play tomorrow)

As you can see, every year three teams have finished ranked, right now 4 are ranked with a week left in the season.

And in all three seasons UT has been an unranked mediocrity, OU wasn't ranked at the end of 2014 either.

It's objectively observable that the Big 12 is not down, and it can be argued it is better overall than in 2013 and 2014.

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You should never ever post anything again
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lmao this is the most pathetically owned response I've ever seen on this site

Since Rex is on other threads trying to revise history about what he said on this one and how hard reality slapped him like an ugly stepchild, it's time to bump it for the amusement of literate people who aren't bitter trolls related to fired Briles staffers four years after the fact.

I thought the bowl game against North Carolina when Briles went from his pass first offense to a run first offense proved he could coach with the best and to this day I can't remember a more dominating run game than the bowl game in Orlando against UNC....Briles knew offense and how to move the ball as good as anyone