True. He never flat out said he was not leaving. It was always well designed sales guy talk to give the Fan Boys the words they wanted to hear to appease them. Some of us knew he was leaving... its what made those smooth answers so sickening to hear.EvilTroyAndAbed said:Show me any time where he said, "I'm not leaving." He never said anything but coach speak.Stranger said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
He never lied.
Only when his lips were moving.
The problem is every school in the world besides a couple of blue bloods has been a stepping stone, but this has never happened to Baylor. Now everyone here is beside themselves.
Welcome to the rest of the world. Even a national champion LSU got left by Saban for the NFL. It happens. Quit whining like babies.
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When your only winning options in town were Tusa football at Waco High and Junior Samples Briles, you tend to get some real losing commentsTellMeYouLoveMe said:
we hired a mercenary, we got what mercenaries do.
Not the end of the world, keep the people worth keeping and scoot him out the door.
Rhule's wife couldn't stand cotton gin and chicken farm mentality. Treat the next guy better in town. He needed to get the f out because his wife hated it. P is undefeated, which cannot be said for declared loser Briles and Tusa football.
Rhule/Rhoades are geniuses and always had Baylor's best interest in mind.
We all should appreciate them for working out and executing the recent extension/contract....planning together on this inevitable event. Both knowing it would happen, they set it up so that the NFL buyout now reimburses Baylor for most (if not all) of the 3 years of Rhule's comp while at Baylor.
Brilliant, and THANK YOU Coach Matt Rhule!
We all should appreciate them for working out and executing the recent extension/contract....planning together on this inevitable event. Both knowing it would happen, they set it up so that the NFL buyout now reimburses Baylor for most (if not all) of the 3 years of Rhule's comp while at Baylor.
Brilliant, and THANK YOU Coach Matt Rhule!
I always thought he was possibly losing in year 1 on purpose to work the turn around story in his favor. How else could you lose with so much better talent than Liberty and UTSA? I would stop myself from saying it as it sounded too outlandish but now it doesn't so much.rileyroo said:
I never thought he was committed to Baylor. A few of us saw through the BS.
His career at BU:
Year 1: Tanked
Year 2: Average (good bowl game against an average opponent)
Year 3: Lightning in a bottle (lots of close games, but good D and solid play)
- Despite the amazing success, we are last in the Big 12 in recruiting
- Rhule is proclaimed a savior and parlays that into an NFL job
Summary:
Losing Record at BU
Didn't win against ranked opponents
Horrible recruiter
Got us to the Big 12 championship and New Year's game somehow
I think he is an OK guy, but the hype was a little smoke and mirrors.
You could lose with those players and transitioning to a real system. He had no linemen.JohnProctor said:I always thought he was possibly losing in year 1 on purpose to work the turn around story in his favor. How else could you lose with so much better talent than Liberty and UTSA? I would stop myself from saying it as it sounded too outlandish but now it doesn't so much.rileyroo said:
I never thought he was committed to Baylor. A few of us saw through the BS.
His career at BU:
Year 1: Tanked
Year 2: Average (good bowl game against an average opponent)
Year 3: Lightning in a bottle (lots of close games, but good D and solid play)
- Despite the amazing success, we are last in the Big 12 in recruiting
- Rhule is proclaimed a savior and parlays that into an NFL job
Summary:
Losing Record at BU
Didn't win against ranked opponents
Horrible recruiter
Got us to the Big 12 championship and New Year's game somehow
I think he is an OK guy, but the hype was a little smoke and mirrors.
This is sarcasm - right?zunooreo said:
Rhule/Rhoades are geniuses and always had Baylor's best interest in mind.
We all should appreciate them for working out and executing the recent extension/contract....planning together on this inevitable event. Both knowing it would happen, they set it up so that the NFL buyout now reimburses Baylor for most (if not all) of the 3 years of Rhule's comp while at Baylor.
Brilliant, and THANK YOU Coach Matt Rhule!
Any chance this could be "Rudy Feldman" for Carolina? Anything official from either side yet?
God called him to take the money and fame apparently.
When he was first hired and several NFL teams were courting him and he wasn't shutting them down, my gut feeling was that he does not give me any reason to trust his commitment to Baylor. My hope was that as he gained success he would feel at home and know that he had the job of a lifetime. Instead he chose to leave for an NFL job where he will probably be fired within five years or so. I need to trust my gut instincts more because I was right the first time.
God is on the side of the bigger paychecks.BaylorLit 01 said:
God called him to take the money and fame apparently.
Joel Osteen
Illigitimus non carborundum
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JohnProctor said:True. He never flat out said he was not leaving. It was always well designed sales guy talk to give the Fan Boys the words they wanted to hear to appease them. Some of us knew he was leaving... its what made those smooth answers so sickening to hear.EvilTroyAndAbed said:Show me any time where he said, "I'm not leaving." He never said anything but coach speak.Stranger said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
He never lied.
Only when his lips were moving.
The problem is every school in the world besides a couple of blue bloods has been a stepping stone, but this has never happened to Baylor. Now everyone here is beside themselves.
Welcome to the rest of the world. Even a national champion LSU got left by Saban for the NFL. It happens. Quit whining like babies.
Quit being a baby. Welcome to big time football. This is what happens. It happened to LSU.
This board is a joke.
Look, I understand the emotion.
I also think a lot of it is classless.
Matt Rhule was brought to Baylor to fix a mess. IMIO, that mess was created by a BOR whose primary interest was protecting their bank accounts - doing the right thing was never the focus.
I say that to put Rhule's hiring in context - he arrived in a s h i t storm of controversy, and we all know that, taking on a difficult mission with no guarantee of success.
I see Matt Rhule as a guy who made some mistakes along the way, but on the whole he did everything Baylor asked from him, and as a result the Bears have a respected program which impressed a lot of critics. Yes, the 1-11 season sucked and I still believe there were mistakes made, but the growth since 2017 is undeniable, and all the more impressive since the Bears improved on both sides of the ball. For those who think we somehow did not accomplish as much as we could have this season, go back and look at what ESPN, CBS, Athlon, and all the others said we would do back before the season.
So Rhule is leaving. I wish him well, even if I am disappointed in the way some things were handled. The NFL was always Rhule's dream job, and with so many openings right now it's obvious if he stayed at Baylor now it would be a long time before he'd get another chance at an NFL head position. I wish we could have seen him win a championship at Baylor, which is something he said was an important goal to him more than once, but the die is cast. If Rhule came back to Baylor now, it wouldn't be the same because of how things played out the past two weeks. I wish Matt Rhule the best luck in his future, but it's clearly time to move on.
I hope we fans can separate disappointment with the last few days of news, from respect and gratitude for the great job Coach Rhule did at Baylor. And I hope we will greet the new head coach with a mix of hope and reasonable expectations.
I also think a lot of it is classless.
Matt Rhule was brought to Baylor to fix a mess. IMIO, that mess was created by a BOR whose primary interest was protecting their bank accounts - doing the right thing was never the focus.
I say that to put Rhule's hiring in context - he arrived in a s h i t storm of controversy, and we all know that, taking on a difficult mission with no guarantee of success.
I see Matt Rhule as a guy who made some mistakes along the way, but on the whole he did everything Baylor asked from him, and as a result the Bears have a respected program which impressed a lot of critics. Yes, the 1-11 season sucked and I still believe there were mistakes made, but the growth since 2017 is undeniable, and all the more impressive since the Bears improved on both sides of the ball. For those who think we somehow did not accomplish as much as we could have this season, go back and look at what ESPN, CBS, Athlon, and all the others said we would do back before the season.
So Rhule is leaving. I wish him well, even if I am disappointed in the way some things were handled. The NFL was always Rhule's dream job, and with so many openings right now it's obvious if he stayed at Baylor now it would be a long time before he'd get another chance at an NFL head position. I wish we could have seen him win a championship at Baylor, which is something he said was an important goal to him more than once, but the die is cast. If Rhule came back to Baylor now, it wouldn't be the same because of how things played out the past two weeks. I wish Matt Rhule the best luck in his future, but it's clearly time to move on.
I hope we fans can separate disappointment with the last few days of news, from respect and gratitude for the great job Coach Rhule did at Baylor. And I hope we will greet the new head coach with a mix of hope and reasonable expectations.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
CaseyBu72 said:
the "slide ruler" has done this to two programs now....he has climbed the
ladder to where he wants to be.....so screw him...!!!!!
Briles doesn't look so bad now after raping those 50 sweet baylor girls......
oh that wasn't him....I forgot.
Those nasty Baylor FB players jumped out of those bushes on 5th street to attack
those sweeties.....my mistake.
You seem stable.
Imagine calling losing to OU on a neutral field in overtime with your 3rd string QB going up against their Heisman finalist a choke job.robinsonbear said:1-11Oldbear83 said:Show me where I called anyone an imbecile.Porteroso said:
Oldbear do you really want people to start pulling up your posts on the subject? How you believed him so hard and anyone who thought he'd leave was an imbecile?
Maybe you should wait for actual events to play out, instead of jumping to conclusions.
Yeah, maybe he's leaving. Sucks in some ways, but he did a good job in just 3 seasons and there's no call to treat him like he robbed us.
And if it turns out he's not leaving ...
Not a good job.
Losing to Liberty....
Not a good job.
Choking to OU.... twice in one season....
Not a good job.
Choking in the bowl game....
Not a good job.
He had one horrible season, one mediocre season, and one good season with 3 incredible choke jobs.
Or losing by 12 to the fifth-ranked SEC runner-up in a game you were a 7-point underdog going in and your QB was coming off of a concussion and then got knocked out of the game again.
Baylor fans, folks. The whiniest, *****iest titty babies in all of P5 football.
longtimebear said:
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy hell. Sincerely, **** you.
*In case it's not clear, **** this OP, not Rhule
This is a great day for Baylor. The cancer eating us is gone. Finally.
This thread delivers.
Well said, sir.
Embarrassing OP and some of the replies on here are just as embarrassing.
This. I think some people have lost all perspective. It's ok to be disappointed and even angry, but don't start acting like a bunch of aggys...DST said:Imagine calling losing to OU on a neutral field in overtime with your 3rd string QB going up against their Heisman finalist a choke job.robinsonbear said:1-11Oldbear83 said:Show me where I called anyone an imbecile.Porteroso said:
Oldbear do you really want people to start pulling up your posts on the subject? How you believed him so hard and anyone who thought he'd leave was an imbecile?
Maybe you should wait for actual events to play out, instead of jumping to conclusions.
Yeah, maybe he's leaving. Sucks in some ways, but he did a good job in just 3 seasons and there's no call to treat him like he robbed us.
And if it turns out he's not leaving ...
Not a good job.
Losing to Liberty....
Not a good job.
Choking to OU.... twice in one season....
Not a good job.
Choking in the bowl game....
Not a good job.
He had one horrible season, one mediocre season, and one good season with 3 incredible choke jobs.
Or losing by 12 to the fifth-ranked SEC runner-up in a game you were a 7-point underdog going in and your QB was coming off of a concussion and then got knocked out of the game again.
Baylor fans, folks. The whiniest, *****iest titty babies in all of P5 football.
thisrileyroo said:
I never thought he was committed to Baylor. A few of us saw through the BS.
His career at BU:
Year 1: Tanked
Year 2: Average (good bowl game against an average opponent)
Year 3: Lightning in a bottle (lots of close games, but good D and solid play)
- Despite the amazing success, we are last in the Big 12 in recruiting
- Rhule is proclaimed a savior and parlays that into an NFL job
Summary:
Losing Record at BU
Didn't win against ranked opponents
Horrible recruiter
Got us to the Big 12 championship and New Year's game somehow
I think he is an OK guy, but the hype was a little smoke and mirrors.
FTR, I'm not angry at Rhule one bit. But I'm not buying the line anymore either.
That being said, he should have come out and said, "I"m a three year coach."
If we're all just playing liar's poker, Rhule gets to own the commitment he asked of everyone else.
The true sign of a great leader is what happens when they leave.
We now have an entire offensive staff that I don't see staying. They're all Rhule guys.
Recruiting doesn't look illustrious and the timing couldn't be worse.
He did leave us with an excellent defensive coordinator. Snow is a killer.
But he's now punted all of the problem back to Rhoades.
No one should be ashamed of stepping up and saying they are true believers in Baylor. Matt needs to clean his office and hit the road, the sooner the better.
That being said, he should have come out and said, "I"m a three year coach."
If we're all just playing liar's poker, Rhule gets to own the commitment he asked of everyone else.
The true sign of a great leader is what happens when they leave.
We now have an entire offensive staff that I don't see staying. They're all Rhule guys.
Recruiting doesn't look illustrious and the timing couldn't be worse.
He did leave us with an excellent defensive coordinator. Snow is a killer.
But he's now punted all of the problem back to Rhoades.
No one should be ashamed of stepping up and saying they are true believers in Baylor. Matt needs to clean his office and hit the road, the sooner the better.
He'll fit in well with a certain segment of posters.nafprat said:CaseyBu72 said:
the "slide ruler" has done this to two programs now....he has climbed the
ladder to where he wants to be.....so screw him...!!!!!
Briles doesn't look so bad now after raping those 50 sweet baylor girls......
oh that wasn't him....I forgot.
Those nasty Baylor FB players jumped out of those bushes on 5th street to attack
those sweeties.....my mistake.
You seem stable.
NopeJohnProctor said:This is sarcasm - right?zunooreo said:
Rhule/Rhoades are geniuses and always had Baylor's best interest in mind.
We all should appreciate them for working out and executing the recent extension/contract....planning together on this inevitable event. Both knowing it would happen, they set it up so that the NFL buyout now reimburses Baylor for most (if not all) of the 3 years of Rhule's comp while at Baylor.
Brilliant, and THANK YOU Coach Matt Rhule!
Sic'em
i thought a recruit signed because he promised he wasn't leaving.
perhaps the recruit should get out of the agreement
perhaps the recruit should get out of the agreement
I knew today would bring the worst out in some posters, but this... I didn't expect this post or this entire thread, even.JohnProctor said:I always thought he was possibly losing in year 1 on purpose to work the turn around story in his favor. How else could you lose with so much better talent than Liberty and UTSA? I would stop myself from saying it as it sounded too outlandish but now it doesn't so much.rileyroo said:
I never thought he was committed to Baylor. A few of us saw through the BS.
His career at BU:
Year 1: Tanked
Year 2: Average (good bowl game against an average opponent)
Year 3: Lightning in a bottle (lots of close games, but good D and solid play)
- Despite the amazing success, we are last in the Big 12 in recruiting
- Rhule is proclaimed a savior and parlays that into an NFL job
Summary:
Losing Record at BU
Didn't win against ranked opponents
Horrible recruiter
Got us to the Big 12 championship and New Year's game somehow
I think he is an OK guy, but the hype was a little smoke and mirrors.
Reverend said:
This is a great day for Baylor. The cancer eating us is gone. Finally.
Scott and White sterilize the Briles klan and company?
TellMeYouLoveMe said:
FTR, I'm not angry at Rhule one bit. But I'm not buying the line anymore either.
That being said, he should have come out and said, "I"m a three year coach."
If we're all just playing liar's poker, Rhule gets to own the commitment he asked of everyone else.
The true sign of a great leader is what happens when they leave.
We now have an entire offensive staff that I don't see staying. They're all Rhule guys.
Recruiting doesn't look illustrious and the timing couldn't be worse.
He did leave us with an excellent defensive coordinator. Snow is a killer.
But he's now punted all of the problem back to Rhoades.
No one should be ashamed of stepping up and saying they are true believers in Baylor. Matt needs to clean his office and hit the road, the sooner the better.
I bet the wife is excited to be shopping somewhere rustic is not the bomb. She can probably now find a decent nail salon.
Do you have a link?jstins said:
He protected Baylor from his inevitable jump to the NFL. The Carolina Panthers now have to buy out his 10 year contract to the tune of about 38 Million dollars.
Real Housewives of New Jersey just gained a new contestant.xiledinok said:TellMeYouLoveMe said:
FTR, I'm not angry at Rhule one bit. But I'm not buying the line anymore either.
That being said, he should have come out and said, "I"m a three year coach."
If we're all just playing liar's poker, Rhule gets to own the commitment he asked of everyone else.
The true sign of a great leader is what happens when they leave.
We now have an entire offensive staff that I don't see staying. They're all Rhule guys.
Recruiting doesn't look illustrious and the timing couldn't be worse.
He did leave us with an excellent defensive coordinator. Snow is a killer.
But he's now punted all of the problem back to Rhoades.
No one should be ashamed of stepping up and saying they are true believers in Baylor. Matt needs to clean his office and hit the road, the sooner the better.
I bet the wife is excited to be shopping somewhere rustic is not the bomb. She can probably now find a decent nail salon.
TellMeYouLoveMe said:Real Housewives of New Jersey just gained a new contestant.xiledinok said:TellMeYouLoveMe said:
FTR, I'm not angry at Rhule one bit. But I'm not buying the line anymore either.
That being said, he should have come out and said, "I"m a three year coach."
If we're all just playing liar's poker, Rhule gets to own the commitment he asked of everyone else.
The true sign of a great leader is what happens when they leave.
We now have an entire offensive staff that I don't see staying. They're all Rhule guys.
Recruiting doesn't look illustrious and the timing couldn't be worse.
He did leave us with an excellent defensive coordinator. Snow is a killer.
But he's now punted all of the problem back to Rhoades.
No one should be ashamed of stepping up and saying they are true believers in Baylor. Matt needs to clean his office and hit the road, the sooner the better.
I bet the wife is excited to be shopping somewhere rustic is not the bomb. She can probably now find a decent nail salon.
I bet the Briles loving rednecks "ah dang it" crowd wore an East Coast woman down. Similar to Texas Tech and Tubberville's wife.
Folks dont be so damn gullible with the next guy. He will also be a mercenary and yes he will lie to you. Sometimes Baylor hires people who even play a God card at first as their first card in playing you. I recommend you not be gullible and just expect wins. Especially if the next guy is also among the highest paid HCs in the country.
Marco, that's a lesson for your crowd, not ours.PartyBear said:
Folks dont be so damn gullible with the next guy. He will also be a mercenary and yes he will lie to you. Sometimes Baylor hires people who even play a God card at first as their first card in playing you. I recommend you not be gullible and just expect wins. Especially if the next guy is also among the highest paid HCs in the country.
TellMeYouLoveMe said:Marco, that's a lesson for your crowd, not ours.PartyBear said:
Folks dont be so damn gullible with the next guy. He will also be a mercenary and yes he will lie to you. Sometimes Baylor hires people who even play a God card at first as their first card in playing you. I recommend you not be gullible and just expect wins. Especially if the next guy is also among the highest paid HCs in the country.
Gullible would have you believing Waco is a big destination town for coaches. The coaching wifey types cannot shop at Chanel and I doubt the social scene blows away a girl from around the way. It worked well with the hillbillies. Tougher with well travel coaches wife.
Chanel > Bobby Sue's
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