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Gameday Thread: #21 Baylor travels to face #19 Oklahoma State

October 1, 2021
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No. 21 Baylor (4-0) travels to Stillwater to face No. 19 Oklahoma State (4-0) in a battle two unbeatens at 6 p.m. CT on Saturday evening. 

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Quote of the week...

Dave Aranda: "We're gonna do some different things in terms of emphasizing ball security at the start of practice. And then throughout practice we'll have a lot more opportunities for guys to have balls in their hands, and guys will be making attempts at it. Make a greater emphasis throughout our team periods of asking for that, and we're really demanding that. Penalty wise having really strong, at the end of the day, kind of account of who did this and who did that. Then having repercussions for that. For us to fight for that game, and then almost give that game away, is not acceptable. Our ability to limit that and just be who we can be in the most stressful competitive moments, that's the challenge. And right now what's standing in our way is penalties."

Craig Smoak’s Players to Watch 

Oklahoma State — Running Back Jaylen Warren

The Pokes' answer for the loss of Chuba Hubbard has quickly become the senior transfer from Utah State. Warren is a compact, hard runner at 5'8 - 215 pounds. He has good vision, a bag of moves, and will break tackles. In last week's win against K-State, Warren carried the ball 27 times for 123 yards and caught four passes for 81 yards, including a 52-yarder to open the game. That followed his 32 carries for 218 yards and two touchdowns the week prior in the Cowboys' escape against Boise State. After Breece Hall's recent showing at McLane, the Bears' defense better buckle up and wrap up. 

Baylor — Linebacker Matt Jones

With Terrel Bernard sidelined for an undetermined amount of time, Jones steps in to fill a more prominent role. Aranda has continued to praise Jones' playmaking ability, football instincts, and versatility. It's not all on his shoulders, of course, but his performance will have a say in the outcome. 

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Gameday Thread: #21 Baylor travels to face #19 Oklahoma State

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In reply to Samwise • 9:23p, 10/2/21
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cowboycwr said:
Pjaeck said:
Rebuilds take more than 1 year. And last year barely counts a season


Hmm they don't seem to take that long at ANY other school….

Also, did rhule leave the program in that bad of shape that it takes two years to rebuild? I thought he had great recruiting classes?


What was Rhule's record in his last year here?


Exactly. I'm not sure what we are rebuilding from 2 years later….
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In reply to Samwise • 9:23p, 10/2/21
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EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Samwise said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Samwise said:
I think this game has led me to believe that Aranda is not a good coach. Yes, he's nice, a good guy, good DC, but not a good leader of a program. There have been way too many glaring issues tonight. This sucks.


Ok, well we've got him for at least four more years, so you need to work on your acceptance skills.


No ****, smart ass. I'm not quite ready to accept terrible football though.


Were we terrible last week?


Aranda gifted them the game winning TD by mismanaging that penalty.


Yes, he did. It was a bad game by him. I'm not giving up on him, nor am I pronouncing him a uniformly good or bad coach based on one game.
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In reply to PartyBear • 9:23p, 10/2/21
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What are we rebuilding g from exactly the 11 win team of 19? We had no talent for the future saved up fir beyond that year? Explain?


Exactly
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9:24p, 10/2/21
This loss is on the coaching staff. Horrible; horrible decisions.
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In reply to Pjaeck • 9:24p, 10/2/21
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Rebuilds take more than 1 year. And last year barely counts a season
what's crazy is we lost on coaching decisions, not talent so don't write that bs
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In reply to Pjaeck • 9:24p, 10/2/21
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We had transfers and early departures when rhule left
What schools don't?
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9:24p, 10/2/21
Offensive game plan was non-existent, HCDA cannot get them to play with any discipline at all, the defense gave them all the ****ing chances in the world... This was a failure from top to bottom on all sides other than defense, even with their substitution issues which I just don't see how that's even possible.
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9:24p, 10/2/21
Murray St, Tulsa both put up more points than us. Is that bad?
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9:25p, 10/2/21
Completely underwhelming performance. No bowl this year.
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9:25p, 10/2/21
A rebuilding team with what 15 plus senior starters? That's a hilarious take. Rhules first season was a rebuilding year. You could say we had to rebuild our o line but that's it. We are loaded on the 2deep with upperclassman. Next year could be rough in the W/L column with everyone leaving
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In reply to Pjaeck • 9:25p, 10/2/21
Pjaeck said:
We had transfers and early departures when rhule left


Not so many that we had nothing left. You are saying the few players that left out of 80 left us so depleted that two years later we are still recovering.
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In reply to NeuroticBear • 9:25p, 10/2/21
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BBWCBear said:
Put Baylor in any Conference… D1 down to D3 and it would be in the bottom of it. Just can't compete.
Congrats on one of the dumbest posts in SicEm's history.


Take away about a total of five years since the 50's and they've been Rank.

BU wasn't ready to play, undisciplined, poor coaching decisions, etc. Terrible football. If BU goes 500 it'll be a surprise.
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9:25p, 10/2/21
Well, at least aggy lost again.
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9:27p, 10/2/21
HCDA and Grimes should be ashamed of themselves after this display by the Bears... I honestly do think you could have been more stupid in this game.
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In reply to BBWCBear • 9:27p, 10/2/21
BBWCBear said:
Put Baylor in any Conference… D1 down to D3 and it would be in the bottom of it. Just can't compete.


So we just live week to week here? Did everyone forget last week? Good God. Bad game. They will learn. If they don't, they will be gone.
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In reply to BUGWBBear • 9:27p, 10/2/21
Nope not seeing it either. The offense I've seen the last 6 quarters gives me zero hope.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 9:28p, 10/2/21
cowboycwr said:
Pjaeck said:
We had transfers and early departures when rhule left


Not so many that we had nothing left. You are saying the few players that left out of 80 left us so depleted that two years later we are still recovering.


Yes, especially on OL and DL.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 9:28p, 10/2/21
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Samwise said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Samwise said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Samwise said:
I think this game has led me to believe that Aranda is not a good coach. Yes, he's nice, a good guy, good DC, but not a good leader of a program. There have been way too many glaring issues tonight. This sucks.


Ok, well we've got him for at least four more years, so you need to work on your acceptance skills.


No ****, smart ass. I'm not quite ready to accept terrible football though.


Were we terrible last week?


Aranda gifted them the game winning TD by mismanaging that penalty.


Yes, he did. It was a bad game by him. I'm not giving up on him, nor am I pronouncing him a uniformly good or bad coach based on one game.


I could be wrong, obviously. I hope I am. I've been disappointed in the lack of discipline in every game, though. Not just this one.
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In reply to DST • 9:28p, 10/2/21
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At least A&M lost. **** 'em.


If they had just paid Jimbo $5 million more to get him to $100 million he might have been more motivated to win this year
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9:29p, 10/2/21
Well we are playing ranked teams what do y'all expect. Games are going to be tough for here on out. We will win some and lose some. Be in the stands next week
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In reply to Quinton • 9:29p, 10/2/21
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We need to go over basic risk / reward calculations with DA this week. This is elementary mathematical probabilities.
Its not just that, but I noticed it last year with "101" stuff.

Late in the West Virginia game in an obvious "call a timeout" situation, Aranda let a lot of time run off the clock, inexplicably before calling a timeout. He had no awareness of critical late-game situational football.

Also last year, the UT game where he punted well within FG range. Around their 25-30 yardline. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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In reply to ImwithBU • 9:30p, 10/2/21
ImwithBU said:
Well we are playing ranked teams what do y'all expect. Games are going to be tough for here on out. We will win some and lose some. Be in the stands next week
We weren't ranked too?
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9:30p, 10/2/21
does anyone really still think gerry is anything more than a placeholder until kyron drones is ready? love to hear what i'm missing. under throws. poor reads. poor quarterback form. stares at 1 route on passing plays.

is it the coaches just calling the most bizarre sequence of plays possible? the OL ****ting the bed? the receivers dropping passes? game situation? he just looks uncomfortable to me.
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In reply to ImwithBU • 9:30p, 10/2/21
We put up the worst score against them all season. Truly this team is mediocre if we get 6 w's I'll be happy
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In reply to BUGWBBear • 9:30p, 10/2/21
BUGWBBear said:
Completely underwhelming performance. No bowl this year.


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In reply to Big12Bear • 9:30p, 10/2/21
Big12Bear said:
Quinton said:
We need to go over basic risk / reward calculations with DA this week. This is elementary mathematical probabilities.
Its not just that, but I noticed it last year with "101" stuff.

Late in the West Virginia game in an obvious "call a timeout" situation, Aranda let a lot of time run off the clock, inexplicably before calling a timeout. He had no awareness of critical late-game situational football.

Also last year, the UT game where he punted well within FG range. Around their 25-30 yardline. Dumb, dumb, dumb.


People would be destroying him for this stuff if he wasn't so nice. Mike McCarthy gets destroyed every week for bone headed crap like that.
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In reply to ImwithBU • 9:31p, 10/2/21
ImwithBU said:
Well we are playing ranked teams what do y'all expect. Games are going to be tough for here on out. We will win some and lose some. Be in the stands next week
Dude it's the fact that we SHOULD'VE won this game. We clearly have the talent. It was the downright ret*rded play-calling and coaching that cost us.
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9:33p, 10/2/21
On the bright side we aren't paying CDA 95Mil to lose.
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In reply to wgeralds • 9:34p, 10/2/21
His mechanics are absolutely horrendous. He sat his feet on maybe two throws all night. He throws off his back foot almost every play. Pretty average QB and that'll continue to show next week. The Gerry homers will come down to earth after about 4 more games that'll look a lot like this.
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9:40p, 10/2/21
In two consecutive years, Aranda has made two of the worst coaching decisions I've ever seen from Baylor. Last year it was the late-game, white flag-waving punt in Austin. This year it was accepting that hold on what would have been 4th and 3 for OSU, them kicking, and us having two timeouts. Just completely boneheaded decisions directly from the guy who's supposed to be an intellectual.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 9:42p, 10/2/21
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
Pjaeck said:
We had transfers and early departures when rhule left


Not so many that we had nothing left. You are saying the few players that left out of 80 left us so depleted that two years later we are still recovering.


Yes, especially on OL and DL.


So then rhule wasn't the god send that everyone claims he was, didn't recruit well and left us with no depth?

Because I constantly read the opposite on these boards.

And no we did not lose that many out of the 80+ Players that we are still rebuilding in year 2. That is an excuse.
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9:43p, 10/2/21
While CDA absolutely has several things to answer for and Grimes has to explain himself as well, the sky isn't falling.

Why we should absolutely be frustrated to lose a game we should have won ( 3 turnovers and no points from them), we are still in a good place.

Be frustrated, demand accountability, but please don't act like this is a precursor to doom or the end of Baylor football as we know it.
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In reply to DST • 9:44p, 10/2/21
DST said:
In two consecutive years, Aranda has made two of the worst coaching decisions I've ever seen from Baylor. Last year it was the late-game, white flag-waving punt in Austin. This year it was accepting that hold on what would have been 4th and 3 for OSU, them kicking, and us having two timeouts. Just completely boneheaded decisions directly from the guy who's supposed to be an intellectual.
Then when it's 3rd and 12 we
-allow Sanders to run the 10 yards back
-call timeout
-have to call our final timeout b/c we had 12 players on the field
-allow a TD
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In reply to coldhardtruth • 9:45p, 10/2/21
coldhardtruth said:
While CDA absolutely has several things to answer for and Grimes has to explain himself as well, the sky isn't falling.

Why we should absolutely be frustrated to lose a game we should have won ( 3 turnovers and no points from them), we are still in a good place.

Be frustrated, demand accountability, but please don't act like this is a precursor to doom or the end of Baylor football as we know it.


How dare you bring calm rational thinking into this forum!
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In reply to Pjaeck • 9:47p, 10/2/21
Pjaeck said:
Rebuilds take more than 1 year. And last year barely counts a season
Then we should be paying the coaches rebuild money....if I'm a playing I'm asking why the 4th down play and why did we accept the penalty...

"help me understand....."....
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