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3rd String Kicker
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A new report on the riverfront, as of Sept. 9. Now has a start date of Feb. 2020.
https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/mclennan-county/new-development-set-to-bring-more-life-to-downtown-waco
Old300Bear
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Actually pretty smart to push back the start so that the project finishes up around the time the road work is wrapping up.
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Old300Bear said:

Actually pretty smart to push back the start so that the project finishes up around the time the road work is wrapping up.
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3rd String Kicker said:

A new report on the riverfront, as of Sept. 9. Now has a start date of Feb. 2020.
https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/mclennan-county/new-development-set-to-bring-more-life-to-downtown-waco

Construction has been pushed back multiple times.

I will not hold my breath that they start in Feb.

It was pushed back to Sept 2019 in August of 2018



https://www.wacotrib.com/news/government/construction-on-riverfront-development-pushed-back-to-sept/article_7e3f75c0-665a-5f03-b5c9-2c13e99fefa3.html

October of 2016 construction was to start in summer of 17.

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco-New-design-plans-presented-for-riverfront-development-395921701.html

and when it was announced in 2013 construction was supposed to start in 2014.

I am sure I have missed one or two times construction was pushed back but I think everyone gets the point.

Announcing when construction will start means NOTHING with this project. Shovels to dirt is what means something.
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Old300Bear said:

Actually pretty smart to push back the start so that the project finishes up around the time the road work is wrapping up.
If I understand correctly, the I35 project will take 4 years. Oh joy! One would think if the Riverfront project starts as early as next February it would be finished well before 2023. But..........then........who knows?
Old300Bear
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My assumption was that in year 4 the work would be primarily finish work. I was thinking the main arteries would be open by then. Probably a silly assumption on my part.
I tend to be an optimist.
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UBBY
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Just remember this is only half of the total project expected to be finished. Who knows how many years down the road it will be until they find funding for the other half.
3rd String Kicker
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I am aware it keeps getting pushed back. Just sharing the latest news coverage.
PartyBear
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Is it even the same developer now that it was in 13? (I'm talking about the River Front now).

Incidentally this is not the first time period in which a developer announced plans for river front development down town. I recall someone in the mid 80s as well and I recall someone around 2000/01 time period as well.
3rd String Kicker
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It's not the same developer for Brazos Promenade as 2013, but I believe those guys who used to have the development rights were trying to do a $130m private development called Brazos Commons right next door (next to Robinson Tower). These are the last comments I have seen on Brazos Commons:
https://www.wacotrib.com/business/million-brazos-commons-project-put-on-ice-after-hotel-pulls/article_525a1bd6-b875-5ea4-a619-3bdc0da1d925.html

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco--More-hotels-interested-Brazos-Commons-developers-say-473990053.html

Anyone heard anything about Brazos Commons in the past 18 months?
SSadler
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Whenever I read about "Riverfront" announcements I hear . . .

Who's on first?

WHO

The guy on first . . .

. . . .
Yogi
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"Smarter than the Average Bear."
hodedofome
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Not sure why Magnolia doesn't do something on the riverfront. If anyone can draw a crowd to a development it would be them.
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hodedofome said:

Not sure why Magnolia doesn't do something on the riverfront. If anyone can draw a crowd to a development it would be them.
They seem to focus more on existing buildings and just redoing them and going from there as opposed to starting from scratch.

I bet if someone built a development/ store front/ center along the river they would rent out some space.
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Took a few RE classes with dyson. I liked him. If he's five or six years out of teaching perhaps he just has a lot of money and time to spend. Why not try.

That said, the location is certainly fringe. Yet if someone had told me BU was going to build a stadium on the other side of the brazos 10 years ago I would have said the same thing.

Waco could use some Class A+ hotel space, particularly if they continue developing the north side of the campus.

Is the demand there? Certainly they would run some fairly detailed market feasibility studies to find out. Dyson is no slouch.

Hope it works better than expected and Waco continues to grow.

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BUmoneymaker said:

Took a few RE classes with dyson. I liked him. If he's five or six years out of teaching perhaps he just has a lot of money and time to spend. Why not try.

That said, the location is certainly fringe. Yet if someone had told me BU was going to build a stadium on the other side of the brazos 10 years ago I would have said the same thing.

Waco could use some Class A+ hotel space, particularly if they continue developing the north side of the campus.

Is the demand there? Certainly they would run some fairly detailed market feasibility studies to find out. Dyson is no slouch.

Hope it works better than expected and Waco continues to grow.


It would be great for it to be a catalyst for growth on that side of the river. Those decaying buildings have been an eyesore for a long time. I hope getting rid of them is part of the plan.
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They are advertising all over the Baylor sporting events. If they are having to pay for this ad time it seems like they should spend some of this money on getting started.

trey3216
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PTGHUNTER said:



They are advertising all over the Baylor sporting events. If they are having to pay for this ad time it seems like they should spend some of this money on getting started.


reeks of someone spending their own dime to get a project in front of people and hope it gets funded by other people's $$
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Edmond Bear
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In the Grant video, they show Aramark involved in the project. Is that for real?
Old300Bear
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So are you guys hoping that this hotel fails and doesn't happen? Seems like it could be good for Baylor.
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I don't think anyone hopes it fails. I think there is some skepticism because the person sponsoring the push has a history of false starts and broken promises.

UPBaylor
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trey3216 said:

PTGHUNTER said:



They are advertising all over the Baylor sporting events. If they are having to pay for this ad time it seems like they should spend some of this money on getting started.


reeks of someone spending their own dime to get a project in front of people and hope it gets funded by other people's $$
All based on the nostalgia of the Grant Teaff name and his ability to influence people with some investment money.

Seems like solid projects are easily financed and don't require an almost "Go Fund Me" approach. I hope this doesn't backfire and soil the Teaff name.
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