New Baylor Hotel

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3rd String Kicker
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A new report on the riverfront, as of Sept. 9. Now has a start date of Feb. 2020.
https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/mclennan-county/new-development-set-to-bring-more-life-to-downtown-waco
Old300Bear
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Actually pretty smart to push back the start so that the project finishes up around the time the road work is wrapping up.
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Old300Bear said:

Actually pretty smart to push back the start so that the project finishes up around the time the road work is wrapping up.
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3rd String Kicker said:

A new report on the riverfront, as of Sept. 9. Now has a start date of Feb. 2020.
https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/mclennan-county/new-development-set-to-bring-more-life-to-downtown-waco

Construction has been pushed back multiple times.

I will not hold my breath that they start in Feb.

It was pushed back to Sept 2019 in August of 2018



https://www.wacotrib.com/news/government/construction-on-riverfront-development-pushed-back-to-sept/article_7e3f75c0-665a-5f03-b5c9-2c13e99fefa3.html

October of 2016 construction was to start in summer of 17.

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco-New-design-plans-presented-for-riverfront-development-395921701.html

and when it was announced in 2013 construction was supposed to start in 2014.

I am sure I have missed one or two times construction was pushed back but I think everyone gets the point.

Announcing when construction will start means NOTHING with this project. Shovels to dirt is what means something.
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Old300Bear said:

Actually pretty smart to push back the start so that the project finishes up around the time the road work is wrapping up.
If I understand correctly, the I35 project will take 4 years. Oh joy! One would think if the Riverfront project starts as early as next February it would be finished well before 2023. But..........then........who knows?
Old300Bear
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My assumption was that in year 4 the work would be primarily finish work. I was thinking the main arteries would be open by then. Probably a silly assumption on my part.
I tend to be an optimist.
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UBBY
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Just remember this is only half of the total project expected to be finished. Who knows how many years down the road it will be until they find funding for the other half.
3rd String Kicker
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I am aware it keeps getting pushed back. Just sharing the latest news coverage.
PartyBear
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Is it even the same developer now that it was in 13? (I'm talking about the River Front now).

Incidentally this is not the first time period in which a developer announced plans for river front development down town. I recall someone in the mid 80s as well and I recall someone around 2000/01 time period as well.
3rd String Kicker
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It's not the same developer for Brazos Promenade as 2013, but I believe those guys who used to have the development rights were trying to do a $130m private development called Brazos Commons right next door (next to Robinson Tower). These are the last comments I have seen on Brazos Commons:
https://www.wacotrib.com/business/million-brazos-commons-project-put-on-ice-after-hotel-pulls/article_525a1bd6-b875-5ea4-a619-3bdc0da1d925.html

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco--More-hotels-interested-Brazos-Commons-developers-say-473990053.html

Anyone heard anything about Brazos Commons in the past 18 months?
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Whenever I read about "Riverfront" announcements I hear . . .

Who's on first?

WHO

The guy on first . . .

. . . .
Yogi
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"Smarter than the Average Bear."
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Not sure why Magnolia doesn't do something on the riverfront. If anyone can draw a crowd to a development it would be them.
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hodedofome said:

Not sure why Magnolia doesn't do something on the riverfront. If anyone can draw a crowd to a development it would be them.
They seem to focus more on existing buildings and just redoing them and going from there as opposed to starting from scratch.

I bet if someone built a development/ store front/ center along the river they would rent out some space.
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Took a few RE classes with dyson. I liked him. If he's five or six years out of teaching perhaps he just has a lot of money and time to spend. Why not try.

That said, the location is certainly fringe. Yet if someone had told me BU was going to build a stadium on the other side of the brazos 10 years ago I would have said the same thing.

Waco could use some Class A+ hotel space, particularly if they continue developing the north side of the campus.

Is the demand there? Certainly they would run some fairly detailed market feasibility studies to find out. Dyson is no slouch.

Hope it works better than expected and Waco continues to grow.

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BUmoneymaker said:

Took a few RE classes with dyson. I liked him. If he's five or six years out of teaching perhaps he just has a lot of money and time to spend. Why not try.

That said, the location is certainly fringe. Yet if someone had told me BU was going to build a stadium on the other side of the brazos 10 years ago I would have said the same thing.

Waco could use some Class A+ hotel space, particularly if they continue developing the north side of the campus.

Is the demand there? Certainly they would run some fairly detailed market feasibility studies to find out. Dyson is no slouch.

Hope it works better than expected and Waco continues to grow.


It would be great for it to be a catalyst for growth on that side of the river. Those decaying buildings have been an eyesore for a long time. I hope getting rid of them is part of the plan.
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They are advertising all over the Baylor sporting events. If they are having to pay for this ad time it seems like they should spend some of this money on getting started.

trey3216
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PTGHUNTER said:



They are advertising all over the Baylor sporting events. If they are having to pay for this ad time it seems like they should spend some of this money on getting started.


reeks of someone spending their own dime to get a project in front of people and hope it gets funded by other people's $$
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In the Grant video, they show Aramark involved in the project. Is that for real?
Old300Bear
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So are you guys hoping that this hotel fails and doesn't happen? Seems like it could be good for Baylor.
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I don't think anyone hopes it fails. I think there is some skepticism because the person sponsoring the push has a history of false starts and broken promises.

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trey3216 said:

PTGHUNTER said:



They are advertising all over the Baylor sporting events. If they are having to pay for this ad time it seems like they should spend some of this money on getting started.


reeks of someone spending their own dime to get a project in front of people and hope it gets funded by other people's $$
All based on the nostalgia of the Grant Teaff name and his ability to influence people with some investment money.

Seems like solid projects are easily financed and don't require an almost "Go Fund Me" approach. I hope this doesn't backfire and soil the Teaff name.
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Ya'll are not gonna like this..

A little birdie told me that we are about to see the Grant Hotel going vertical in Aug-Sep if there aren't many more rain delays. I don't want to divulge exactly who told me this, but someone who is closely working on the project.
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UBBY said:

Ya'll are not gonna like this..

A little birdie told me that we are about to see the Grant Hotel going vertical in Aug-Sep if there aren't many more rain delays. I don't want to divulge exactly who told me this, but someone who is closely working on the project.
If you hop on the Lady Donnelle, will you get 'Rona?
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Bear Doc said:

UBBY said:

Ya'll are not gonna like this..

A little birdie told me that we are about to see the Grant Hotel going vertical in Aug-Sep if there aren't many more rain delays. I don't want to divulge exactly who told me this, but someone who is closely working on the project.
If you hop on the Lady Donnelle

On behalf of Coach Teaff, I'm gonna request you don't.
Fat Daddy
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Wouldn't doubt it! LM has started projects before ... it's. It the starting them that has been the problem... it is the finishing them.

A while back, Smokey has a great interview with Gary Player. I think it was Player that LM brought to town to hit a few golf balls at his golf course development. That one.... I am not sure if Gary ever got paid (or the tent people, sound people, etc). Hopefully it was all settled!
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UBBY said:

Ya'll are not gonna like this..

A little birdie told me that we are about to see the Grant Hotel going vertical in Aug-Sep if there aren't many more rain delays. I don't want to divulge exactly who told me this, but someone who is closely working on the project.



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UBBY said:

Ya'll are not gonna like this..

A little birdie told me that we are about to see the Grant Hotel going vertical in Aug-Sep if there aren't many more rain delays. I don't want to divulge exactly who told me this, but someone who is closely working on the project.
It never rains in Waco, Texas but girl let me warn ya, it pours, man it it pours.
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UBBY said:

Ya'll are not gonna like this..

A little birdie told me that we are about to see the Grant Hotel going vertical in Aug-Sep if there aren't many more rain delays. I don't want to divulge exactly who told me this, but someone who is closely working on the project.


“We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one.”
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Hearing the proposed Lady Donnell has been scaled back a bit.

Sampi82
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Tiny Elvis said:

Hearing the proposed Lady Donnell has been scaled back a bit.




Needs to include a bar.

“We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one.”
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UBBY said:

Ya'll are not gonna like this..

A little birdie told me that we are about to see the Grant Hotel going vertical in Aug-Sep if there aren't many more rain delays. I don't want to divulge exactly who told me this, but someone who is closely working on the project.
I wish them all the luck in the world. The hotel/motel business is in shambles across the US right now. Lots of bankruptcies coming. In commercial RE in general and in retail/hotel type properties in particular. Regardless of COVID therapeutics or a vaccine. Too much red ink to recover. Good news is there will shortly be (end of 2020) many opportunities nationwide for the prudent investor with cash.
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Tiny Elvis said:

Hearing the proposed Lady Donnell has been scaled back a bit.



You think that's bad? Wait until you see what they have planned for the Trinity River near TCU!

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Sampi82 said:

Tiny Elvis said:

Hearing the proposed Lady Donnell has been scaled back a bit.




Needs to include a bar.


Needs a SicEm365 banner
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Michibear said:

Tiny Elvis said:

Hearing the proposed Lady Donnell has been scaled back a bit.



You think that's bad? Wait until you see what they have planned for the Trinity River near TCU!

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With the State budget swinging from a multi billion dollar surplus to a 5 billion dollar deficit, legislators may have to bite their tongues and pass a gambling bill in upcoming sessions. That may be what's planned for the Trinity River in the Metroplex. With Baylor's strong Baptist lobby here in River City...Where will our casino(s) be built? Just food for thought
 
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