Dude thus far has been totally underwhelming at best and was basically a no show in the two games at Vegas. How much longer does Drew keep starting him or for that matter even giving him significant minutes if he doesn't quickly snap out of it?
we don't see practices.Johnny Bear said:
Dude thus far has been totally underwhelming at best and was basically a no show in the two games at Vegas. How much longer does Drew keep starting him or for that matter even giving him significant minutes if he doesn't quickly snap out of it?
LIB,MR BEARS said:we don't see practices.Johnny Bear said:
Dude thus far has been totally underwhelming at best and was basically a no show in the two games at Vegas. How much longer does Drew keep starting him or for that matter even giving him significant minutes if he doesn't quickly snap out of it?
…and a national championship banner that has barely had time to get any dust on it. I'll believe Drew before my own eyes….Johnny Bear said:LIB,MR BEARS said:we don't see practices.Johnny Bear said:
Dude thus far has been totally underwhelming at best and was basically a no show in the two games at Vegas. How much longer does Drew keep starting him or for that matter even giving him significant minutes if he doesn't quickly snap out of it?
We do see games.
I disagree. I think you want your bench guys to be instant energy, "provide a spark" guys, and Bonner, Lohner and Josh are best suited for those roles. Our starting lineup doesn't need Bridges to be anything more than he is. It will score with or without him contributing. But there will be games where we do need our bench players to kick the team into gear and I don't want to be leaning on someone as inconsistent as Bridges in that role.Mothballs said:
This is the time of year when Drew experiments with lineups and rotations. It's time to give Lohner a start and bring Bridgers in off the bench. Let's see what happens... definitely wouldn't hurt.
DanaDane said:
JB -- Your comment about the no show this weekend is valid, but I'm not sure it matters whether or not he's starting unless you're thinking it will give him some type of psychological push. As you know, Drew's scheme is to basically have 8 starters so even if he didn't start he'd still come in at the 15 minute mark rotation along with Josh O and Bonner, then check out around the 10 minute mark and then back in at the 5 minute mark. He'd basically be playing the same amount of minutes, just without the name of starter.
I think the frustrating part for many of our fans is gonna be the expectation of him filling in as a 4, since that's the position we truly need. Unfortunately, he's not a 4 and even he has said he views himself more of a 2 than even a 3. That's basically why he got sideways with Huggins. Of course, if he's gonna be a 3 or even envisions himself as a 2, he's gotta bury some of the wide open 3's he's missed. Hopefully that will come around. The Marquette and Gonzaga games will be telling.
I think it's becoming more evident with each game that Lohner is gonna have to be the closest to a bruising 4 we have. When Bridges is in the game, it's going to be more of a finesse lineup.
Just my thoughts!
For clarification, is the emotional moment the knee-jerk "Bridges shouldn't start" or the "Drew knows more than me"?DanaDane said:
Yeah, I don't get why sometimes a simple statement morphs into a Oh You Must Hate Drew!" accusation. To each his own, I guess. Everyone is susceptible to an emotional moment from time to time, but I figure most everyone in here want nothing but success for Drew and his staff. We are a small school so if anyone is here posting on our boards, I figure they must enjoy something about Baylor or otherwise they'd be spending time somewhere else. Of course you get the occasional troll, but those are usually easy to spot with a recent join date.
uhhh, I knew that. I knew that. I was just demonstrating the knee-jerk thing. Please try to keep up.DanaDane said:
My comment wasn't about you or you questioning JB. It was a statement in general about all of the boards.
IowaBear said:
Welcome to life on the MBB message board. You can't post an opinion or thought without a few posters saying your questioning the staff blah blah. Same few posters do this regularly
I wish Love was a little further along in his recovery because we could use a bigger, stronger guard like him as the second "big" in a four-guard lineup. At 6-5, 210, he can be a little more physical than most of our other guards can.DanaDane said:
I don't take it that you're questioning Drew. You're asking a valid question, adding insight and making observations like any fan would. I never understand the people who think one comment, observation or question is an attempt to slander the coaching staff.
I think you'll see us go to 4 guards at some point later on in the year depending on the team we're playing. We did it for a short period last night but Drew had to get Love out quickly because he is a liability on D right now due to his inability to move laterally and cover, which left UCLA open to 3 bury consecutive shots and reduce our lead at the time. I had hoped his knee would be further along (and I have no doubt he does too), but unfortunately that's one of those things that differs by individual. He's getting some good, albeit brief, exposure now which will help later on as his mobility hopefully improves.
I think Drew will figure out an appropriate mix with Lohner and Bridges. The other 9 teams in the Big 12 have different strengths and weaknesses, so there will undoubtedly be games where Lohner is called on to play a bigger role and the same with Bridges.
Bonner and Key are bigger guards who are good on the boards, so I agree, I could easily see situational 4 guard lineups. Lohner might also be tasked to play some small ball 5. I have hope for Bridges, but we have multiple lineup options if he is unable to contribue. Bridges doesn't have a high motor, but Drew has had success coaxing production from this type of player. As recently as KB last season, and Perry Jones from a decade ago.DanaDane said:
I don't take it that you're questioning Drew. You're asking a valid question, adding insight and making observations like any fan would. I never understand the people who think one comment, observation or question is an attempt to slander the coaching staff.
I think you'll see us go to 4 guards at some point later on in the year depending on the team we're playing. We did it for a short period last night but Drew had to get Love out quickly because he is a liability on D right now due to his inability to move laterally and cover, which left UCLA open to 3 bury consecutive shots and reduce our lead at the time. I had hoped his knee would be further along (and I have no doubt he does too), but unfortunately that's one of those things that differs by individual. He's getting some good, albeit brief, exposure now which will help later on as his mobility hopefully improves.
I think Drew will figure out an appropriate mix with Lohner and Bridges. The other 9 teams in the Big 12 have different strengths and weaknesses, so there will undoubtedly be games where Lohner is called on to play a bigger role and the same with Bridges.
Don't forget Terry Maston in between those two guys, as well.Crawfoso1973 said:Bonner and Key are bigger guards who are good on the boards, so I agree, I could easily see situational 4 guard lineups. Lohner might also be tasked to play some small ball 5. I have hope for Bridges, but we have multiple lineup options if he is unable to contribue. Bridges doesn't have a high motor, but Drew has had success coaxing production from this type of player. As recently as KB last season, and Perry Jones from a decade ago.DanaDane said:
I don't take it that you're questioning Drew. You're asking a valid question, adding insight and making observations like any fan would. I never understand the people who think one comment, observation or question is an attempt to slander the coaching staff.
I think you'll see us go to 4 guards at some point later on in the year depending on the team we're playing. We did it for a short period last night but Drew had to get Love out quickly because he is a liability on D right now due to his inability to move laterally and cover, which left UCLA open to 3 bury consecutive shots and reduce our lead at the time. I had hoped his knee would be further along (and I have no doubt he does too), but unfortunately that's one of those things that differs by individual. He's getting some good, albeit brief, exposure now which will help later on as his mobility hopefully improves.
I think Drew will figure out an appropriate mix with Lohner and Bridges. The other 9 teams in the Big 12 have different strengths and weaknesses, so there will undoubtedly be games where Lohner is called on to play a bigger role and the same with Bridges.
Crawfoso1973 said:
Bridges was much more active today, particularly on the offensive glass.
All we have to go on is one game at a time. He doesn't need to be a superstar to be an effective player for us.Mothballs said:Crawfoso1973 said:
Bridges was much more active today, particularly on the offensive glass.
Step down in competition and stepped his play. Hasn't this always been the knock on him?
And we're talking about a very small sample at this point. Let's let the guy play 10-15 games and settle into his role on a new team before we come to any firm conclusions.Crawfoso1973 said:All we have to go on is one game at a time. He doesn't need to be a superstar to be an effective player for us.Mothballs said:Crawfoso1973 said:
Bridges was much more active today, particularly on the offensive glass.
Step down in competition and stepped his play. Hasn't this always been the knock on him?
bear2be2 said:I disagree. I think you want your bench guys to be instant energy, "provide a spark" guys, and Bonner, Lohner and Josh are best suited for those roles. Our starting lineup doesn't need Bridges to be anything more than he is. It will score with or without him contributing. But there will be games where we do need our bench players to kick the team into gear and I don't want to be leaning on someone as inconsistent as Bridges in that role.Mothballs said:
This is the time of year when Drew experiments with lineups and rotations. It's time to give Lohner a start and bring Bridgers in off the bench. Let's see what happens... definitely wouldn't hurt.