I had a post here not long ago about how few impact players we've had transfer out, and it spurred a fun discussion on the Baylor athletics text chain I'm on about what all-outgoing and all-incoming transfer teams would look like during the Scott Drew era. I figured I'd share that here because the discrepancy between the strength of the two is pretty remarkable.
We'll start with the all-outgoing transfer team. After putting the roster together, I asked my buddies how many of Scott Drew's Baylor teams we thought it could beat. We couldn't agree on an answer, but the consensus was not many.
Let me know if I forgot anyone. For reference, all stats are composite averages from the post-transfer school they experienced the most success at.
ALL-OUTGOING TRANSFER TEAM
STARTING LINEUP
PG -- LJ Rose (9.0 ppg, 5.3 apg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 spg in 30.2 mpg; .386/.349/.709 at Houston)
SG -- Wendell 'Chuck' Mitchell (11.6 ppg, 2.1 apg, 3.1 rpg, 1.6 spg in 29.1 mpg; .365/.316/.802 at Texas A&M)
SG -- Al Freeman (16.1 ppg, 2.6 apg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 spg in 34.4 mpg; .386/.385/.776 at NC State)
SF/PF -- Matthew Mayer (11.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.3 bpg, 1.2 apg, 0.8 spg in 24.0 mpg; .436/.381/.792 at Illinois)
C -- Dain Dainja (10.1 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.4 bpg, 0.5 apg, 0.8 spg in 20.8 mpg; .683/.000/.507 at Illinois)
BENCH
PG -- Stargell Love (9.9 ppg, 4.3 apg, 4.0 rpg, 1.3 spg in 24.8 mpg; .475/.380/.649 at DII N.M. Highlands)
SG -- Tyson Jolly (13.4 ppg, 2.0 apg, 5.9 rpg, 0.6 spg in 32.7 mpg; .454/.384/.748 at SMU)
SG -- Deuce Bello (9.2 ppg, 1.0 apg, 3.4 rpg; 1.1 spg in 21.9 mpg; .458/.319/.656 at East Tennessee State)
SF/PF -- Djibril 'Penny' Thiam (8.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.7 apg, 0.8 spg in 25.7 mpg; .526/.222/.601 at Wyoming)
PF -- Tristan Clark (4.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.8 bpg, 0.6 apg, 0.2 spg in 14.1 mpg; .694/.000/.719 at SMU
C -- Dragan Sekulja (4.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.5 bpg, 1.3 apg, 0.3 spg in 16.7 mpg; .444/.000/.625 at Florida Atlantic)
C -- Chad Rykhoek (4.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.5 bpg, 0.7 apg, 0.3 spg in 14.1 mpg; .544/.000/.353 at Memphis)
Others left off: Cory Herring (solid career at Canisius); Givon Crump (productive but inefficient career at DII Cal State-Dominguez)
Now, with that out of the way, let's look at the incoming transfers. We have enough to make two teams -- one legendary and one decent but deeply flawed -- so I'll go ahead and do that. It would probably make more sense to divide the players onto two more even teams, but for the sake of this exercise, I didn't. I think the first team would waltz to a national title and the second would be a competitive but low-ceiling team because of its obvious weakness in the frontcourt.
ALL-INCOMING TRANSFER TEAM -- First team
STARTING LINEUP
PG -- Pierre Jackson (16.7 ppg, 6.5 apg, 3.3 rpg, 1.6 spg in 32.8 mpg; .441/.379/.808 at Baylor)
PG/SG -- Davion Mitchell (12.0 ppg, 4.7 apg, 2.7 rpg, 1.7 spg in 32.7 mpg; .465/.394/.653 at Baylor)
SG -- MaCio Teague (14.9 ppg, 1.8 apg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 spg in 32.1 mpg; .443/.374/.841 at Baylor)
PF -- Ekpe Udoh (13.9 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 3.7 bpg, 2.7 apg, 0.8 spg in 35.1 mpg; .490/.269/.685 at Baylor)
C -- Jo Acuil (11.5 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 2.2 bpg, 0.6 apg, 0.4 spg in 28.5 mpg; .527/.311/.612 at Baylor)
BENCH
PG -- Makai Mason (14.9 ppg, 3.4 apg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 spg in 32.1 mpg; .398/.364/.787 at Baylor)
PG/SG -- Adam Flagler (12.5 ppg, 3.0 apg, 2.3 rpg, 1.1 spg in 28.5 mpg; .435/.421/.809 at Baylor)
SG -- Brady Heslip (10.2 ppg, 0.9 apg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 spg in 26.9 mpg; .433/.437/.823 at Baylor)
SF -- Royce O'Neale (8.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.0 spg in 29.5 mpg; .483/.448/.683 at Baylor)
SF/PF -- Harvey Thomas (15.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.4 bpg, 1.2 apg, 1.5 spg in 32.2 mpg; .431/.263/.695 at Baylor)
PF -- Jonathan Tchamwa Tchatchoua (7.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.5 bpg, 0.5 apg, 0.6 spg in 19.9 mpg; .628/.533/.772 at Baylor)
C -- Freddie Gillespie (7.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.7 bpg, 0.4 apg, 0.9 spg in 23.7 mpg; .582/.000/.646 at Baylor)
ALL-INCOMING TRANSFER TEAM -- Second team
STARTING LINEUP
PG -- Kenny Chery (11.4 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.1 spg in 30.4 mpg; .404/.353/.858 at Baylor)
PG/SG -- Manu Lecomte (14.2 ppg, 3.8 apg, 2.0 rpg, 0.6 spg in 32.1 mpg; .412/.392/.866 at Baylor)
SF -- Mario Kegler (10.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.6 bpg,1.3 apg, 0.4 spg in 28.3 mpg; .430/.303/.651 at Baylor)
SF/PF -- Jalen Bridges (9.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.0 bpg, 1.0 apg, 0.8 spg in 25.6 mpg; .512/.280/.759 at Baylor)
C -- J'Mison Morgan (3.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.1 bpg, 0.5 spg in 12.4 mpg; .549/.000/.383 at Baylor)
BENCH
PG -- James Akinjo (13.5 ppg, 5.8 apg, 2.8 rpg, 2.0 spg in 33.1 mpg; .383/.295/.835 at Baylor)
PG -- Lester Medford (8.3 ppg, 4.8 apg, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 spg in 31.0 mpg; .393/.376/.701 at Baylor)
SG -- Devonte Bandoo (8.0 ppg, 1.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 0.6 spg in 23.3 mpg; .418/.391/.831 at Baylor)
SG -- Gary Franklin (4.0 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.1 rpg, 0.4 spg in 17.4 mpg; .351/.339/.757 at Baylor)
SF -- Patrick Fields (8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.4 apg, 0.9 spg in 21.0 mpg; .436/.360/.659 at Baylor)
SF -- Nuni Omot (7.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.1 apg, 0.4 spg in 18.4 mpg; .464/.401/.843 at Baylor)
SF/PF -- Tim Bush (7.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.1 apg, 0.8 spg in 25.7 mpg; .409/.326/.776 at Baylor)
Other frontcourt options (slim pickin's): Mark Shepherd (1.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.4 bpg in 11.4 mpg); Deng Deng (2.9 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 bpg in 8.8 mpg); Delbert Simpson (2.1 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.7 bpg in 8.5 mpg)
We'll start with the all-outgoing transfer team. After putting the roster together, I asked my buddies how many of Scott Drew's Baylor teams we thought it could beat. We couldn't agree on an answer, but the consensus was not many.
Let me know if I forgot anyone. For reference, all stats are composite averages from the post-transfer school they experienced the most success at.
ALL-OUTGOING TRANSFER TEAM
STARTING LINEUP
PG -- LJ Rose (9.0 ppg, 5.3 apg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 spg in 30.2 mpg; .386/.349/.709 at Houston)
SG -- Wendell 'Chuck' Mitchell (11.6 ppg, 2.1 apg, 3.1 rpg, 1.6 spg in 29.1 mpg; .365/.316/.802 at Texas A&M)
SG -- Al Freeman (16.1 ppg, 2.6 apg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 spg in 34.4 mpg; .386/.385/.776 at NC State)
SF/PF -- Matthew Mayer (11.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.3 bpg, 1.2 apg, 0.8 spg in 24.0 mpg; .436/.381/.792 at Illinois)
C -- Dain Dainja (10.1 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.4 bpg, 0.5 apg, 0.8 spg in 20.8 mpg; .683/.000/.507 at Illinois)
BENCH
PG -- Stargell Love (9.9 ppg, 4.3 apg, 4.0 rpg, 1.3 spg in 24.8 mpg; .475/.380/.649 at DII N.M. Highlands)
SG -- Tyson Jolly (13.4 ppg, 2.0 apg, 5.9 rpg, 0.6 spg in 32.7 mpg; .454/.384/.748 at SMU)
SG -- Deuce Bello (9.2 ppg, 1.0 apg, 3.4 rpg; 1.1 spg in 21.9 mpg; .458/.319/.656 at East Tennessee State)
SF/PF -- Djibril 'Penny' Thiam (8.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.7 apg, 0.8 spg in 25.7 mpg; .526/.222/.601 at Wyoming)
PF -- Tristan Clark (4.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.8 bpg, 0.6 apg, 0.2 spg in 14.1 mpg; .694/.000/.719 at SMU
C -- Dragan Sekulja (4.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.5 bpg, 1.3 apg, 0.3 spg in 16.7 mpg; .444/.000/.625 at Florida Atlantic)
C -- Chad Rykhoek (4.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.5 bpg, 0.7 apg, 0.3 spg in 14.1 mpg; .544/.000/.353 at Memphis)
Others left off: Cory Herring (solid career at Canisius); Givon Crump (productive but inefficient career at DII Cal State-Dominguez)
Now, with that out of the way, let's look at the incoming transfers. We have enough to make two teams -- one legendary and one decent but deeply flawed -- so I'll go ahead and do that. It would probably make more sense to divide the players onto two more even teams, but for the sake of this exercise, I didn't. I think the first team would waltz to a national title and the second would be a competitive but low-ceiling team because of its obvious weakness in the frontcourt.
ALL-INCOMING TRANSFER TEAM -- First team
STARTING LINEUP
PG -- Pierre Jackson (16.7 ppg, 6.5 apg, 3.3 rpg, 1.6 spg in 32.8 mpg; .441/.379/.808 at Baylor)
PG/SG -- Davion Mitchell (12.0 ppg, 4.7 apg, 2.7 rpg, 1.7 spg in 32.7 mpg; .465/.394/.653 at Baylor)
SG -- MaCio Teague (14.9 ppg, 1.8 apg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 spg in 32.1 mpg; .443/.374/.841 at Baylor)
PF -- Ekpe Udoh (13.9 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 3.7 bpg, 2.7 apg, 0.8 spg in 35.1 mpg; .490/.269/.685 at Baylor)
C -- Jo Acuil (11.5 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 2.2 bpg, 0.6 apg, 0.4 spg in 28.5 mpg; .527/.311/.612 at Baylor)
BENCH
PG -- Makai Mason (14.9 ppg, 3.4 apg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 spg in 32.1 mpg; .398/.364/.787 at Baylor)
PG/SG -- Adam Flagler (12.5 ppg, 3.0 apg, 2.3 rpg, 1.1 spg in 28.5 mpg; .435/.421/.809 at Baylor)
SG -- Brady Heslip (10.2 ppg, 0.9 apg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 spg in 26.9 mpg; .433/.437/.823 at Baylor)
SF -- Royce O'Neale (8.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.0 spg in 29.5 mpg; .483/.448/.683 at Baylor)
SF/PF -- Harvey Thomas (15.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.4 bpg, 1.2 apg, 1.5 spg in 32.2 mpg; .431/.263/.695 at Baylor)
PF -- Jonathan Tchamwa Tchatchoua (7.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.5 bpg, 0.5 apg, 0.6 spg in 19.9 mpg; .628/.533/.772 at Baylor)
C -- Freddie Gillespie (7.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.7 bpg, 0.4 apg, 0.9 spg in 23.7 mpg; .582/.000/.646 at Baylor)
ALL-INCOMING TRANSFER TEAM -- Second team
STARTING LINEUP
PG -- Kenny Chery (11.4 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.1 spg in 30.4 mpg; .404/.353/.858 at Baylor)
PG/SG -- Manu Lecomte (14.2 ppg, 3.8 apg, 2.0 rpg, 0.6 spg in 32.1 mpg; .412/.392/.866 at Baylor)
SF -- Mario Kegler (10.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.6 bpg,1.3 apg, 0.4 spg in 28.3 mpg; .430/.303/.651 at Baylor)
SF/PF -- Jalen Bridges (9.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.0 bpg, 1.0 apg, 0.8 spg in 25.6 mpg; .512/.280/.759 at Baylor)
C -- J'Mison Morgan (3.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.1 bpg, 0.5 spg in 12.4 mpg; .549/.000/.383 at Baylor)
BENCH
PG -- James Akinjo (13.5 ppg, 5.8 apg, 2.8 rpg, 2.0 spg in 33.1 mpg; .383/.295/.835 at Baylor)
PG -- Lester Medford (8.3 ppg, 4.8 apg, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 spg in 31.0 mpg; .393/.376/.701 at Baylor)
SG -- Devonte Bandoo (8.0 ppg, 1.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 0.6 spg in 23.3 mpg; .418/.391/.831 at Baylor)
SG -- Gary Franklin (4.0 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.1 rpg, 0.4 spg in 17.4 mpg; .351/.339/.757 at Baylor)
SF -- Patrick Fields (8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.4 apg, 0.9 spg in 21.0 mpg; .436/.360/.659 at Baylor)
SF -- Nuni Omot (7.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.1 apg, 0.4 spg in 18.4 mpg; .464/.401/.843 at Baylor)
SF/PF -- Tim Bush (7.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.1 apg, 0.8 spg in 25.7 mpg; .409/.326/.776 at Baylor)
Other frontcourt options (slim pickin's): Mark Shepherd (1.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.4 bpg in 11.4 mpg); Deng Deng (2.9 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 bpg in 8.8 mpg); Delbert Simpson (2.1 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.7 bpg in 8.5 mpg)