LJ Cryer will transfer to Houston
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Not much of a surprise here.
LJ Cryer Commits
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Not much of a surprise here.
NEWS: Baylor transfer LJ Cryer has committed to Houston, he tells @On3sports.
— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) April 9, 2023
Averaged 15 PPG this season.
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And for the record -- he's going to a school that returns its 2nd team all conference junior (will be senior but still has COVID year) starting point guard.
Well, he is from Katy. He should have plenty of friends & family for every home game & plenty of other games in the state.
Hard to see another Baylor person at a Big 12 school. How many others are there, besides Tang & McCasland at Tech?
Hard to see another Baylor person at a Big 12 school. How many others are there, besides Tang & McCasland at Tech?
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Kelvin Sampson abandoning his defensive principles in his old age?
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This is just confusing
Best of luck to him but i think he would have been better off outside the conference at a Gonzaga type team
Best of luck to him but i think he would have been better off outside the conference at a Gonzaga type team
I can't wait to smoke Baylor.
Good luck, you aren't in the AAC anymore. You were talking mad crap before that F4 beat down as well
It's definitely an odd fit. LJ Cryer doesn't seem like a Kelvin Simpson type of guard to me.gobears20 said:
This is just confusing
Best of luck to him but i think he would have been better off outside the conference at a Gonzaga type team
Great shooter. Average or worse at every other aspect of his game. Next point guard for Houston? I don't think so. He will help Houston but he will not find satisfaction there.
bear2be2 said:It's definitely an odd fit. LJ Cryer doesn't seem like a Kelvin Simpson type of guard to me.gobears20 said:
This is just confusing
Best of luck to him but i think he would have been better off outside the conference at a Gonzaga type team
It's one of the worst possible fits you could find. Doesn't fit the system at all. But was expected.
Sampson sees the writing on the wall. You can't trot out the all D ( save this past year) banging style and win consistently at the high D1 level. They'll have to score bc the backcourt will be small and really poor defensively save Shead.
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And for the record -- he's going to a school that returns its 2nd team all conference junior (will be senior but still has COVID year) starting point guard.
This is why you have to basically ignore the rationale given publicly. They actually have a pg which we didn't this year.
They also try a grinding style of defense while Cryer was one of our worst defenders of the last decade. Also brought in another tweener scorer so won't be enough shots to make everyone happy. It's a very poor fit but makes sense for proximity, Nil, program vibe (although either Sampson goes lighter on a few of these guys or they adjust).
You don't want that smoke.
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Has to be quite the $$ incentive, because as you all have pointed out, terrible basketball fit.
In another thread a poster got hammered on for saying LJs move to the portal was NiL motivated…. Said poster looks pretty smart now. This was purely NIl driven. Houston is a God awful fit!
Which would bring up a rather uncomfortable series of questions about what our players are earning on NIL, if Houston is outbidding us on our own players. It's not like Cryer was a bench guy or wouldn't get starting minutes next year, so the only explanation I can give is similar to yours.IowaBear said:
In another thread a poster got hammered on for saying LJs move to the portal was NiL motivated…. Said poster looks pretty smart now. This was purely NIl driven. Houston is a God awful fit!
Must kind of suck to be a coach in this era when dealing with this mess. You have zero control over how much NIL money your players get, yet you now have to use those figures not just to initially recruit high school kids, but to perpetually recruit your own players.
Bingo, I was one of the few against NiL when this all started as this was exactly why! It was always going to end up turning into a bidding war…loyalty to programs is a dying commodity.
As time wears on, college sports will increasingly resemble pro sports in all aspects until the two are nearly indistinguishable.
As pay-to-play and NIL become more ingrained, and I'm thinking a few years down the road here, you're going to eventually see players sign contracts with colleges stipulating length of service. Players will have to negotiate 1, 2, 3 4-year deals that guarantee rights access, NIL payment plans, etc. The transfer portal will be limited to players out of contract. Agency services will professionally extend to repping college athletes. There will be a CBA. It's already legal precedent that college students can unionize, so either the NCAA will have to bargain or a new org will sprout up that will and supplant it.
At some point these schools individually are going to act on the unbalanced leverage issue, because you can't have a league (in either revenue sport) where anyone can go anywhere at any time for any reason and their payment is just a giant hazy roulette wheel for the coaches.
As pay-to-play and NIL become more ingrained, and I'm thinking a few years down the road here, you're going to eventually see players sign contracts with colleges stipulating length of service. Players will have to negotiate 1, 2, 3 4-year deals that guarantee rights access, NIL payment plans, etc. The transfer portal will be limited to players out of contract. Agency services will professionally extend to repping college athletes. There will be a CBA. It's already legal precedent that college students can unionize, so either the NCAA will have to bargain or a new org will sprout up that will and supplant it.
At some point these schools individually are going to act on the unbalanced leverage issue, because you can't have a league (in either revenue sport) where anyone can go anywhere at any time for any reason and their payment is just a giant hazy roulette wheel for the coaches.
Where would Cryer fit in if it's any place that takes pride in its defense and isn't just about trying to outscore the opponent?
From his initial list. Maybe KState.. Illinois...LSU..or Arkansas.
Possibly a big factor is a big time name might be able to get a nice bit more NIL in front of your hometown crowd?
None of these guys are driving numbers. They are just getting paid to come. Don't think it matters where they are from as they still won't drive any real revenue. But I'm sure Nil is a raise and playing back home is a benefit.. almost guaranteed the two most important factors.
Would be shocked if he plays any significant pg time against real competition and if he does the team will struggle.
Would be shocked if he plays any significant pg time against real competition and if he does the team will struggle.
A few things have changed since we were last conference mates: i.e., the 7-11 at Ivy Square is gone now.cougar king said:
I can't wait to smoke Baylor.
They built a new one directly across the street from Tiny Arena. So Coog Fans will have somewhere to congregate and get a bite to eat before the game.ABC BEAR said:A few things have changed since we were last conference mates: i.e., the 7-11 at Ivy Square is gone now.cougar king said:
I can't wait to smoke Baylor.
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I am excited to announce my partnership with @LinkingCoogs to handle all my NIL partnerships and inquiries. Can’t wait to get to work. Go Coogs! pic.twitter.com/gSJOTDZZxH
— Lj Cryer (@LjCryer) April 11, 2023
I think the majority see NIL as the end of college sports as we know them. Stacking the deck and buying wins is not a fulfilling win. Plus it's not NIL anymore. It's paying players to win.IowaBear said:
Bingo, I was one of the few against NiL when this all started as this was exactly why! It was always going to end up turning into a bidding war…loyalty to programs is a dying commodity.
I pray this will be reigned in at some point.
It's just not collegiate sports anymore. It's pro sports, and low quality pro sports at that.JP1037 said:I think the majority see NIL as the end of college sports as we know them. Stacking the deck and buying wins is not a fulfilling win. Plus it's not NIL anymore. It's paying players to win.IowaBear said:
Bingo, I was one of the few against NiL when this all started as this was exactly why! It was always going to end up turning into a bidding war…loyalty to programs is a dying commodity.
I pray this will be reigned in at some point.
I can't see my interest in college football and basketball doing anything but waning over the coming decades. There's just not a whole lot of reason to invest the time or energy into it that I have.
To me, what made college sports really fun was the shared experience you had with those representing your school. That no longer exists in an environment where players choose their schools based exclusively on incentive packages and one in every five players (and climbing) transfers every year.
Take up fishing, it soothes the soul
I love fishing. Unfortunately, the little fishing hole I used to take the kids to every weekend dried up last summer. I have to find a new place this summer.IowaBear said:
Take up fishing, it soothes the soul
And just to be clear, I don't have a problem with players being compensated or a fair chunk of the insane money in these sports trickling down to the athletes who play them. But at the end of the day, college sports (like all others) are an entertainment product. And if I no longer find the product entertaining, I'll just move on to something else.
It's a shame because there was likely a sensible solution to be struck in the pay-for-play discussion a decade or two ago, but that ship has sailed. Because of stubborn inaction by the "stewards" of these sports, high major college athletics will never again look like the version that hooked most of us years and years ago. It will, at best, be some *******ized facsimile that will become more and more difficult for some of us to enjoy.
It's a shame because there was likely a sensible solution to be struck in the pay-for-play discussion a decade or two ago, but that ship has sailed. Because of stubborn inaction by the "stewards" of these sports, high major college athletics will never again look like the version that hooked most of us years and years ago. It will, at best, be some *******ized facsimile that will become more and more difficult for some of us to enjoy.
We get stuck with another 7-11 while Hillsboro gets a Buc-ee's. Any chance we might get a Puff-a-Lump outlet store to make everyone jealous of us for a change?whitetrash said:They built a new one directly across the street from Tiny Arena. So Coog Fans will have somewhere to congregate and get a bite to eat before the game.ABC BEAR said:A few things have changed since we were last conference mates: i.e., the 7-11 at Ivy Square is gone now.cougar king said:
I can't wait to smoke Baylor.
I doubt there is a P5 coach in America that wouldn't have taken Cryer. In today's game, shooting is the most important thing. However, I think most would have regretted taking him if they expected him to be anything other than one of the best shooting guards in the nation.
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Per Landon Goesling (@lando_1_), spokesman for #LinkingCoogs, says his company held a private NIL event at The Post Oak Hotel for @UHCougars & raised over $1.5 million dollars last night. We want to thank the Fertitta family for hosting & helping make this event happen.
— Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) March 31, 2023
I'm with you. And the bolded part is (one of) the part(s) that gets me. It's not like the giant sums ESPN/Fox are paying out are trickling down to the athletes: the current setup has alumni donors paying more money to give to players. Most alumni simply can't/won't, giving the ultra-enthusiastic megadonors outsized influence. I can't think of anything that goes more directly against the idea of amateur, collegiate competition than that.bear2be2 said:
And just to be clear, I don't have a problem with players being compensated or a fair chunk of the insane money in these sports trickling down to the athletes who play them. But at the end of the day, college sports (like all others) are an entertainment product. And if I no longer find the product entertaining, I'll just move on to something else.
It's a shame because there was likely a sensible solution to be struck in the pay-for-play discussion a decade or two ago, but that ship has sailed. Because of stubborn inaction by the "stewards" of these sports, high major college athletics will never again look like the version that hooked most of us years and years ago. It will, at best, be some *******ized facsimile that will become more and more difficult for some of us to enjoy.
It starts to feel like the ship of Theseus: take away local rivalries, introduce the transfer portal, dump in TV money, throw in pay-for-play and it starts to take an Aggie-like devotion to believe the sport bears any resemblance to its former self.
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