MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
How do you know this as a fact? Have you been to the other Big12 arenas and measured & compared decibel levels to FP?BigGameBaylorBear said:
Who cares how many seats it has? It's one of the loudest arenas in the Big12...
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Success in basketball isn't determined how big your arena is.
Not to mention we didn't fill up Ferrell unless it was a blockbuster matchup
Agreed. Baylor fans spend way too much time worrying about things that don't matter at all. And it almost always stems from insecurity and being made fun of at work or online by fans of other schools.BigGameBaylorBear said:
Who cares how many seats it has? It's one of the loudest arenas in the Big12 and will be extremely tough to play in. I Duke is 9,300, Gonzaga is 6,000, Villanova is 6,500.
Success in basketball isn't determined how big your arena is.
Not to mention we didn't fill up Ferrell unless it was a blockbuster matchup
MrGolfguy said:How do you know this as a fact? Have you been to the other Big12 arenas and measured & compared decibel levels to FP?BigGameBaylorBear said:
Who cares how many seats it has? It's one of the loudest arenas in the Big12...
Isn't it true that they all likely are "loud"?
Isn't it true that 16,000 people (or 14,000? or 12,000? or 10,000?) can potentially make more noise than 7,000?
Quinton said:BigGameBaylorBear said:
Success in basketball isn't determined how big your arena is.
Not to mention we didn't fill up Ferrell unless it was a blockbuster matchup
Agree on the success part. But disagree with logic on the second part. No teams really fill up for small time games. It's not unique and is true across the country.
Bu drew way more than Tcu or Houston (9.4k avg last year) at the time of their remodels but Bu downsized more than both. Probably a bit too small but the venue is nice. Most wanted in the low to mid 8s.
Point is Bu basketball quantitatively draws more than several programs on the list. Now they can't. I agree with the future being sized down. Just think the made it a little too small.
How do you know this as a fact? 9,000 to 10,000 people make far more noise than 7,000. Fact.bear2be2 said:
The seating capacity literally doesn't matter. It won't impact the atmosphere, as this 7,000-seat venue will be far louder than our previous 10,000-seat one.
The Ferrell Center wasn't loud. It took 9,000 or 10,000 fans to make it loud because it was a noise-suppressing cave. And we only drew those kinds of crowds a handful of times a season.MrGolfguy said:How do you know this as a fact? 9,000 to 10,000 people make far more noise than 7,000. Fact.bear2be2 said:
The seating capacity literally doesn't matter. It won't impact the atmosphere, as this 7,000-seat venue will be far louder than our previous 10,000-seat one.
The FC was damn loud; I went to the 1st game there & the last, and hundreds in between. It was it's loudest when 9,000 or 10,000 fans were in there, but also plenty loud when 'only' 7,000 to 8,000 were there. Loud is loud. FP will be plenty loud but saying FC was something less is simply not true.
Cove Dawg said:MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
A damn shame!
I'm with you. Sports viewership and attendance is trending downward across the board. Practicality won out over vanity in this case. We could have built an 8,000-seat arena, and it would have been fine. But if the goal is to consistently have a good, Baylor-friendly atmosphere, 7,000-7,500 is a good number. It eliminates the dozen-plus games we had every season at the Ferrell Center with a half-empty arena and maintains a great homecourt advantage for marquee matchups.blackie said:
When we had crowds in the FC greater than 7,500, how many of those were actually Baylor fans versus Texas, TCU, Tech, OU, KU etc. fans? And how many of those got their tickets fairly close to game day? Point being do we really think in the FC Baylor had more than 75% of those in attendance with the possible exception of some outliers? I don't. I like the size. The difference now is that you need to get any available tickets much further in advance if it is a game with a more interesting opponent. The goal should be that outside of whatever allotment we have to set aside for conference opponents because of conference rules, the rest of the seats should be filled with Baylor butts.
But, whether you like the size or not, it is what we have and it ain't gonna change. IMO, they made the right choice.
The first statement simply isn't true. FC was plenty loud. I'd suggest having your hearing checked.bear2be2 said:
The Ferrell Center wasn't loud.
A capacity crowd there will be much louder than the Ferrell Center ever was.
Fre3dombear said:Cove Dawg said:MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
A damn shame!
Now do wins per year
RightRevBear said:Fre3dombear said:Cove Dawg said:MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
A damn shame!
Now do wins per year
So do you think we could outdraw UT if we had a better record. I mean if that was the case McLane Stadium should have been built with the seating capacity of Kyle Field, because our record was much better than ATM's.
10,000 screaming into a void isn't as loud as 7,000 voices bouncing off each other.MrGolfguy said:The first statement simply isn't true. FC was plenty loud. I'd suggest having your hearing checked.bear2be2 said:
The Ferrell Center wasn't loud.
A capacity crowd there will be much louder than the Ferrell Center ever was.
The second statement is a guess on your part that you have no idea of, you're just pulling something out of your ass; likely untrue b/c 9K-10K is louder than 7K. It's an unarguable fact.
Fre3dombear said:RightRevBear said:Fre3dombear said:Cove Dawg said:MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
A damn shame!
Now do wins per year
So do you think we could outdraw UT if we had a better record. I mean if that was the case McLane Stadium should have been built with the seating capacity of Kyle Field, because our record was much better than ATM's.
Not sure where that logic non sequitur comes from but point being we draw way less than texas and win way more
Correlation / causality and ****
vanillabryce said:
Anyone see how empty GIA was yesterday on a Saturday v a top 20 team?
It doesn't bother me at all if we have a small field house.
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Who cares how many seats it has? It's one of the loudest arenas in the Big12 and will be extremely tough to play in. I Duke is 9,300, Gonzaga is 6,000, Villanova is 6,500.
Success in basketball isn't determined how big your arena is.
Not to mention we didn't fill up Ferrell unless it was a blockbuster matchup
