I only caught the second half last night on TV. Why were the Baylor fans booing #2 every time he had the ball?
Why boo Pop Isaacs?
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Rape.
He's accused of sexually assaulting a minor..granted innocent until proven guilty.
But let's not kid ourselves if he played for Bu he would have been tarred and feathered by now.
Tech continues to play him in an act of desperation. Hopefully it doesn't cost Grant his gig.
But let's not kid ourselves if he played for Bu he would have been tarred and feathered by now.
Tech continues to play him in an act of desperation. Hopefully it doesn't cost Grant his gig.
The broadcasters made some mention about he's been getting that treatment on the road. So it wasn't just us.
Saw a bunch of these type of responses from TT fans last night
Thank you BOR for the WSJ article.
Thank you BOR for the WSJ article.
Baylor booing Pop is funny pic.twitter.com/wh4Q06Sbcm
— Yaaa Here We Go (@yaaaherewego) February 7, 2024
Also did a "no means no" chant and a "17" chant. One of the good things about students being close to court is better heckling.
Weird… who are these 31 players convicted ? I only know of 2. One of which never played a down at BU
IowaBear said:
Weird… who are these 31 players convicted ? I only know of 2. One of which never played a down at BU
Ask the BOR....they must know
The kids chanting this were 12 or 13 years old when Briles resigned. A bunch of them probably don't know who he is. But an alleged r*pist was on the court, so they knew to chant. Good on them.
Briles never played a player accused of SA.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
I still remember WVU fans giving our bball team total hell with "no mean no" chants and the like in 2017. Of course our bball team had nothing to do with the allegations.
The boos last night were directed right at the alleged responsible party.
The boos last night were directed right at the alleged responsible party.
TTevin Elliott (who's s certified POS) and Sam U are the only ones convicted in court right ?
To say the least, it's absurd to believe Briles coached teams that were full of rapists when at the end of the day there was a grand total of 2 convictions (and as you indicate, Sam, U never played a down of football for us).IowaBear said:
Weird… who are these 31 players convicted ? I only know of 2. One of which never played a down at BU
The only other one I can think of is Chafin....or was that a civil case?IowaBear said:
TTevin Elliott (who's s certified POS) and Sam U are the only ones convicted in court right ?
Ahh yes. But I thought he was found not guilty ? That case always reeked of a money grab. She seemed bat **** crazy.
civilboognish_bear said:The only other one I can think of is Chafin....or was that a civil case?IowaBear said:
TTevin Elliott (who's s certified POS) and Sam U are the only ones convicted in court right ?
Chafin's wife is clearing his name, sorta.
It went back and forth....but ultimately Sam U was convicted. This article is from Sept 2023. He's still seeking to have the conviction over turned. He's now 30 and has served his jail time.Johnny Bear said:IowaBear said:
Weird… who are these 31 players convicted ? I only know of 2. One of which never played a down at BU
I only know of 1 actual conviction (Tevin Elliott). I assume the other player you're referring to that never played in a game for BU is Sam U, who was ultimately never convicted. To say the least, it's absurd to believe Briles coached teams that were full of rapists and at the end of the day there was a grand total of 1 conviction.
https://wacotrib.com/news/local/crime-courts/sam-ukwuachu-baylor-football-sexual-assault-habeas-corpus/article_f69b7438-596d-11ee-9413-dff432f3f81c.html
They actually played around with that. Notice it says "accusations" and not "convictions". So they can say they are telling the truth even though they know the facts are way different from the impression. Pathetic misdirection.IowaBear said:
Weird… who are these 31 players convicted ? I only know of 2. One of which never played a down at BU
boognish_bear said:It went back and forth....but ultimately Sam U was convicted. This article is from Sept 2023. He's still seeking to have the conviction over turned. He's not 30 and has served his jail time.Johnny Bear said:IowaBear said:
Weird… who are these 31 players convicted ? I only know of 2. One of which never played a down at BU
I only know of 1 actual conviction (Tevin Elliott). I assume the other player you're referring to that never played in a game for BU is Sam U, who was ultimately never convicted. To say the least, it's absurd to believe Briles coached teams that were full of rapists and at the end of the day there was a grand total of 1 conviction.
https://wacotrib.com/news/local/crime-courts/sam-ukwuachu-baylor-football-sexual-assault-habeas-corpus/article_f69b7438-596d-11ee-9413-dff432f3f81c.html
I went back and edited my post after re-researching it (I thought his case got thrown out or something to that effect but he apparently did ultimately did get convicted of second-degree sexual assault).
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if he played for Baylor we would get torched.
You're good! I kind of remember that case going back and forth a few times over the years
TechDawgMc said:They actually played around with that. Notice it says "accusations" and not "convictions". So they can say they are telling the truth even though they know the facts are way different from the impression. Pathetic misdirection.IowaBear said:
Weird… who are these 31 players convicted ? I only know of 2. One of which never played a down at BU
Since we're talking about the US mainstream media, that's not surprising at all.
gobears20 said:
if he played for Baylor we would get torched.
And it would be just as wrong as it was when we did it. In America i thought we were innocent until proven guilty.
I have found theres only two ways to go:
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
We didn't play any players suspected of rape. Unless I'm missing one?
And you're right innocent until proven guilty. But this is a very serious accusation that Tech seems to want swept under the rug
And you're right innocent until proven guilty. But this is a very serious accusation that Tech seems to want swept under the rug
boognish_bear said:
Saw a bunch of these type of responses from TT fans last night
Thank you BOR for the WSJ article.Baylor booing Pop is funny pic.twitter.com/wh4Q06Sbcm
— Yaaa Here We Go (@yaaaherewego) February 7, 2024
2 convictions. We got more Big12 championships than that
I'm not sure it's great to brag about "only 2 convictions." I also don't think it's all that great to chant these things from the stands, after all Baylor endured from 2016 on and since real human victims are likely involved.
I don't think Pop Isaacs should be playing as this plays out, but I am so far removed that my opinion is worthless. The head coach has to make a judgment call, and it ought to be a moral one. My impression is that Grant McCasland is a good person and would want to do the right thing morally. But at the same time, I'd guess 99% of coaches would make the decision based on win potential instead of morals, so it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt.
I don't think Pop Isaacs should be playing as this plays out, but I am so far removed that my opinion is worthless. The head coach has to make a judgment call, and it ought to be a moral one. My impression is that Grant McCasland is a good person and would want to do the right thing morally. But at the same time, I'd guess 99% of coaches would make the decision based on win potential instead of morals, so it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt.
I agree. Using sexual assault as ammunition for sports trash talk and fan chants is gross.ursamajor said:
I'm not sure it's great to brag about "only 2 convictions." I also don't think it's all that great to chant these things from the stands, after all Baylor endured from 2016 on and since real human victims are likely involved.
I don't think Pop Isaacs should be playing as this plays out, but I am so far removed that my opinion is worthless. The head coach has to make a judgment call, and it ought to be a moral one. My impression is that Grant McCasland is a good person and would want to do the right thing morally. But at the same time, I'd guess 99% of coaches would make the decision based on win potential instead of morals, so it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt.
I felt that way when others were doing it to us. And I feel that way when we're doing it to others.
I bring up the 2 convictions because it is nothing compared to the numbers proposed by the media. Just about every school has had similar numbers (cough cough SEC) but no one talks about it
BigGameBaylorBear said:boognish_bear said:
Saw a bunch of these type of responses from TT fans last night
Thank you BOR for the WSJ article.Baylor booing Pop is funny pic.twitter.com/wh4Q06Sbcm
— Yaaa Here We Go (@yaaaherewego) February 7, 2024
2 convictions. We got more Big12 championships than that
The smallest word in that pic is accusations
Not in the court of public opinionLimited IQ Redneck in PU said:gobears20 said:
if he played for Baylor we would get torched.
And it would be just as wrong as it was when we did it. In America i thought we were innocent until proven guilty.
Look at how courts and public opinion handle OJ and Trump.
Public opinion has always been that you have a limited IQ. Until your confession, it was just conjecture.
the booing showed across the nation that baylor fans have a tin ear.
pop looks like he on drugs. the guy's body language is just awful. maybe he's always been that way, idk?
pop looks like he on drugs. the guy's body language is just awful. maybe he's always been that way, idk?
I couldn't care less what the booing and heckling makes us look like. I want teams to actively dread and dislike playing at the Foster.
I'm all for boos. The louder the better.
I can do without the shouts of "no means no" and "17, 17, 17" or whatever.
Those shouts, as a group, make us hypocrites along with all the fans we despised for getting onto our football players. I don't want to be lumped in with them.
I can do without the shouts of "no means no" and "17, 17, 17" or whatever.
Those shouts, as a group, make us hypocrites along with all the fans we despised for getting onto our football players. I don't want to be lumped in with them.
Agree with this distinction.LIB,MR BEARS said:
I'm all for boos. The louder the better.
I can do without the shouts of "no means no" and "17, 17, 17" or whatever.
Those shouts, as a group, make us hypocrites along with all the fans we despised for getting onto our football players. I don't want to be lumped in with them.
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