burg0047 said:
Think about this...
If SD leaves, our most tenured head coach in the four biggest sports.... Dave Aranda.
Mack has been horrendous.
A good chunk of us wants this regardless if Drew stays lolGobearsone said:
Fire his ass immediately.
And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
You and I both know that 15-20 million wouldn't stop Kentucky from getting their guy.IvanBear said:And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
If Kentucky had to pay 15-20 million to get Drew, then yeah, Mack could avoid real criticism, but we're not by all accounts.
It sure sounds like it stopped them from going after Nate Oats. $33 million stopped them from dumping Cal.Bears2Cane said:You and I both know that 15-20 million wouldn't stop Kentucky from getting their guy.IvanBear said:And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
If Kentucky had to pay 15-20 million to get Drew, then yeah, Mack could avoid real criticism, but we're not by all accounts.
You can only sign someone to a contract they agree to, and Mack has no leverage in a negotiation with Drew. If Drew wants a small buyout, he gets a small buyout. Period.IvanBear said:It sure sounds like it stopped them from going after Nate Oats. $33 million stopped them from dumping Cal.Bears2Cane said:You and I both know that 15-20 million wouldn't stop Kentucky from getting their guy.IvanBear said:And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
If Kentucky had to pay 15-20 million to get Drew, then yeah, Mack could avoid real criticism, but we're not by all accounts.
Either way that's the level of buyout that should be on Drew, it's not there and that's on our AD who's signed multiple contracts with Drew at this point.
bear2be2 said:You can only sign someone to a contract they agree to, and Mack has no leverage in a negotiation with Drew. If Drew wants a small buyout, he gets a small buyout. Period.IvanBear said:It sure sounds like it stopped them from going after Nate Oats. $33 million stopped them from dumping Cal.Bears2Cane said:You and I both know that 15-20 million wouldn't stop Kentucky from getting their guy.IvanBear said:And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
If Kentucky had to pay 15-20 million to get Drew, then yeah, Mack could avoid real criticism, but we're not by all accounts.
Either way that's the level of buyout that should be on Drew, it's not there and that's on our AD who's signed multiple contracts with Drew at this point.
Someone bad at their job would try to play hardball with a highly successful, highly sought after coach and potentially piss him off unnecessarily.IvanBear said:bear2be2 said:You can only sign someone to a contract they agree to, and Mack has no leverage in a negotiation with Drew. If Drew wants a small buyout, he gets a small buyout. Period.IvanBear said:It sure sounds like it stopped them from going after Nate Oats. $33 million stopped them from dumping Cal.Bears2Cane said:You and I both know that 15-20 million wouldn't stop Kentucky from getting their guy.IvanBear said:And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
If Kentucky had to pay 15-20 million to get Drew, then yeah, Mack could avoid real criticism, but we're not by all accounts.
Either way that's the level of buyout that should be on Drew, it's not there and that's on our AD who's signed multiple contracts with Drew at this point.
That is exactly how a negotiation would go with someone bad at their job.
No. You don't get it. The IvanBears of the world live in a fantasy land where everything they want to happen should have already happened. Quit your logical takes. This is no time for logic.bear2be2 said:You can only sign someone to a contract they agree to, and Mack has no leverage in a negotiation with Drew. If Drew wants a small buyout, he gets a small buyout. Period.IvanBear said:It sure sounds like it stopped them from going after Nate Oats. $33 million stopped them from dumping Cal.Bears2Cane said:You and I both know that 15-20 million wouldn't stop Kentucky from getting their guy.IvanBear said:And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
If Kentucky had to pay 15-20 million to get Drew, then yeah, Mack could avoid real criticism, but we're not by all accounts.
Either way that's the level of buyout that should be on Drew, it's not there and that's on our AD who's signed multiple contracts with Drew at this point.
Have you ever negotiated a golden handcuff type plan?bear2be2 said:Someone bad at their job would try to play hardball with a highly successful, highly sought after coach and potentially piss him off unnecessarily.IvanBear said:bear2be2 said:You can only sign someone to a contract they agree to, and Mack has no leverage in a negotiation with Drew. If Drew wants a small buyout, he gets a small buyout. Period.IvanBear said:It sure sounds like it stopped them from going after Nate Oats. $33 million stopped them from dumping Cal.Bears2Cane said:You and I both know that 15-20 million wouldn't stop Kentucky from getting their guy.IvanBear said:And the whole we didn't have a buyout on our national champion winning coach that keeps the Kentucky's of the world away part.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
If Kentucky had to pay 15-20 million to get Drew, then yeah, Mack could avoid real criticism, but we're not by all accounts.
Either way that's the level of buyout that should be on Drew, it's not there and that's on our AD who's signed multiple contracts with Drew at this point.
That is exactly how a negotiation would go with someone bad at their job.
The fact that we've kept poachers at bay for 21 years with a heretofore unknown buyout on Drew's contract proves the point everyone here is making. Losing Drew to Kentucky (if we do) will have far more to do with Kentucky than Baylor.
There are plenty of valid reasons to criticize Rhoades, if that's your desire. This isn't one of them.
Mitch Henessey said:
Baylor fans want their AD fired if Drew goes to UK. UK fans want their AD fired for hiring Drew. Everyone hates their AD.
In other news, water is wet.
Mitch Henessey said:
Baylor fans want their AD fired if Drew goes to UK. UK fans want their AD fired for hiring Drew. Everyone hates their AD.
In other news, water is wet.
Drew could make a public statement saying that there was NOTHING that Mack or Baylor could have done to keep him had he left and Rhoades would still be blamed, as there was nothing he could have done with the other coach, as well. Despite what many think, you cannot buy a person's heart.Bears2Cane said:
Y'all are so desperate to hate on Mack that you've got to cite to CSD ~possibly~ leaving for one of the top two or three most coveted jobs in the country. If Drew leaves for UK it has very little to do with Mack/Baylor and everything to do with UK being UK.
he should.Jorkel said:
Does Mack get credit for keeping Drew?
Ghostrider said:he should.Jorkel said:
Does Mack get credit for keeping Drew?
LOL... Women's softball is one of the big four sports at Baylor? Mmmmkay.MarcelloSwisher said:
I didn't know Glen Moore died
I don't think any AD could have kept Drew from leaving for Kentucky if his heart was set on going there. But the fact that he chose to stay dispels any silly notion that he has a poor working relationship with Mack Rhoades.Jorkel said:Ghostrider said:he should.Jorkel said:
Does Mack get credit for keeping Drew?
I agree. Some on here would say that keeping Drew from Kentucky was a minimum requirement when it's a much bigger accomplishment than that.
Ghostrider said:he should.Jorkel said:
Does Mack get credit for keeping Drew?
How I imagine you look typing this post:BUGWBBear said:Ghostrider said:he should.Jorkel said:
Does Mack get credit for keeping Drew?
No. Drew gets credit. Mack's on his knees crying hallelujah. Mack gets zero credit in this.
Zero. Point. Zero.
burg0047 said:LOL... Women's softball is one of the big four sports at Baylor? Mmmmkay.MarcelloSwisher said:
I didn't know Glen Moore died
if talking straight $'s, you are 100% right. I give more money to Baylor when basketball or football does well. I am sure others do as well. Not sure how you capture this.CorsicanaBear said:
The money is in Football, basketball money is an also ran. The football debacle is big enough to fire Mack over regardless of what he did or didn't do to keep Drew.
