Hmmmmm

I don't think players care about that.

Kentucky will say "we never offered"

Not very. Why do they care

gobears20 said:

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whitetrash said:

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Kentucky will say "we never offered"

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lol Going full Aggy

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Aggy got a coach from Kentucky once...before losing him to Alabama.

Not as powerful as saying, "Come play for me at Kentucky."

With a big enough NIL package…Kentucky who?

That being said..high profile players at Kentucky are celebs and the amount of support and NIL endorsement deals are probably hot.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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My cousin was a Top 50 recruit less than a decade ago and he continually tells me recruits don't think the way most fans do. I think this is a good example of that. Recruits don't care about that kind of stuff. Most have managers now and want to know how they can make bank.

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And get to the Association.

We hired a coach HC away from UK about 9 months before we hired Drew.

These days things like that, academic ratings, campus life, location and even amount the program is winning is not as meaningful if the NIL deal is enough.

We're about to find out

cowboycwr said:

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These days things like that, academic ratings, campus life, location and even amount the program is winning is not as meaningful if the NIL deal is NOT enough.

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Fixed it for you.

Those are nice perks that could help sway a player if the NIL offer is good. They mean nothing if it's not.

bear2be2 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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These days things like that, academic ratings, campus life, location and even amount the program is winning is not as meaningful if the NIL deal is NOT enough.

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Fixed it for you.

Those are nice perks that could help sway a player if the NIL offer is good. They mean nothing if it's not.

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No it was right the first time.

Your second sentence is repeating what I just said.

If the NIL offer is enough at _____ school then they will go there. NO matter the ranking of academics, campus life, etc.

If you have two schools competting for a player and one school is selling academics, location, campus life, last years success, history, etc. and the other school is holding a bunch of money in front of the player the player is going to see $$$$$$ and choose that school.

cowboycwr said:

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bear2be2 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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These days things like that, academic ratings, campus life, location and even amount the program is winning is not as meaningful if the NIL deal is NOT enough.

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Fixed it for you.

Those are nice perks that could help sway a player if the NIL offer is good. They mean nothing if it's not.

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No it was right the first time.

Your second sentence is repeating what I just said.

If the NIL offer is enough at _____ school then they will go there. NO matter the ranking of academics, campus life, etc.

If you have two schools competting for a player and one school is selling academics, location, campus life, last years success, history, etc. and the other school is holding a bunch of money in front of the player the player is going to see $$$$$$ and choose that school.

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The NIL offer will usually be enough at more than one place. It's like any other professional contract negotiation. Once the money part is an acceptable range, you start looking at other factors to make your decision.

If the money part is not in an acceptable range, none of the other factors matter.

But we're both essentially saying the same thing in different ways. Money will always be the first consideration now. You have to get that part right for any of the other traditional perks to have any influence at all.

i doubt recruits think the way fans do, especially in the nil era

BaylorLit 01 said:

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Drew wants a school that gives him free rein to treat the basketball team like a Sunday school class. A public school isn't going to cool with faculty led Bible studies, prayer, and team chaplains pushing Christianity.

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That's a very harsh, narrow minded way to look at it and I doubt it's a viewpoint shared by players like Jared Butler, Davion Mitchell, MaCio Teague, Mark Vital, Adam Flagler, Everyday Jon, or almost any others. This looks like it came from someone who really hates God.

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BaylorLit 01 said:

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Drew wants a school that gives him free rein to treat the basketball team like a Sunday school class. A public school isn't going to cool with faculty led Bible studies, prayer, and team chaplains pushing Christianity.

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That's a very harsh, narrow minded way to look at it and I doubt it's a viewpoint shared by players like Jared Butler, Davion Mitchell, MaCio Teague, Mark Vital, Adam Flagler, Everyday Jon, or almost any others. This looks like it came from someone who really hates God.

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Quite the leap. Believing religion is private and not something to push on ppl, especially subordinates, makes me a God hater. Now, which one of us is narrow minded, again?!

I think it will help alot

BaylorLit 01 said:

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BaylorLit 01 said:

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Drew wants a school that gives him free rein to treat the basketball team like a Sunday school class. A public school isn't going to cool with faculty led Bible studies, prayer, and team chaplains pushing Christianity.

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That's a very harsh, narrow minded way to look at it and I doubt it's a viewpoint shared by players like Jared Butler, Davion Mitchell, MaCio Teague, Mark Vital, Adam Flagler, Everyday Jon, or almost any others. This looks like it came from someone who really hates God.

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Quite the leap. Believing religion is private and not something to push on ppl, especially subordinates, makes me a God hater. Now, which one of us is narrow minded, again?!

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What is your source for believing that religion should be private?

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BaylorLit 01 said:

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Drew wants a school that gives him free rein to treat the basketball team like a Sunday school class. A public school isn't going to cool with faculty led Bible studies, prayer, and team chaplains pushing Christianity.

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That's a very harsh, narrow minded way to look at it and I doubt it's a viewpoint shared by players like Jared Butler, Davion Mitchell, MaCio Teague, Mark Vital, Adam Flagler, Everyday Jon, or almost any others. This looks like it came from someone who really hates God.

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Quite the leap. Believing religion is private and not something to push on ppl, especially subordinates, makes me a God hater. Now, which one of us is narrow minded, again?!

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Question, are missionaries crossing the line by trying to bring people to Christ?

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Why are you assuming that Drew is pushing his faith on anybody? Faith cannot be achieved through force. Either one believes or one doesn't.

That's a huge insult on Coach Drew & on Christian's in general. Yes, it's very narrow minded.

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"Everything we do around the program is Christ-centered," he told CBN News. "The great thing is we can prepare champions for life. And that's a spiritual, academic, and character formation in athletics. So for us to be able to incorporate the spiritual part has been so key and paramount to all our success and He's blessed us."

"Seeing the spiritual growth guys. Players who accept Christ, players who maybe prayed for the first time with the team, players who get baptized, players who come back and get Bible studies and go to church and you know that's what really exciting," he expressed.

"Sometimes those victories are not written and talked about in the newspapers or TV, but again, those are the ones that really matter," he added.

When asked about the importance of religious freedom in America, Drew said he is glad to be at a Christian university where he can openly share his faith.

"Baylor University gives you that opportunity. Spiritually we're allowed to have an impact in our players' lives, so many of my coaching friends [that] are devout in their faith are at institutions where they can't," he explained. "I am a much better husband, father, spiritually I have grown from the staff that we have because we will do coach's bible studies together and we start every meeting in prayer."

Drew adds that it is the culture of "joy, Jesus, others, and yourself" that will continue to propel the program forward.

"We have also been a Christ-centered program and that is our foundation," he said.

If you're an evangelical Christian, all of that sounds great. But my point is a coach can't do that at a public school so I don't see Scott Drew ever going to one.

Just keep that Snake Oil salesman Mack Rhoades out of the way.

That guy would just slime up the opportunity........

Since a very important part of Coach Drew's recruiting strategy is looking for young men of character I think the two are compatible. The character traits he's looking for are compatible with Christianity. I guess it depends on what one's means but "pushing". I prefer the term "promoting" because it has a more positive connotation. Regardless of terminology, the players in the program are open to his methods and one cannot argue with the results. We have the trophies & banners to prove it.