Am I worried? Ask me tomorrow.
@bear2be2bear2be2 said:This is a silly response. You jumped to an erroneous conclusion and got called on it. What does that have to do with brown nosing the administration?IvanBear said:Brown nose the administration harder maybe it'll get you a better tailgate spot from the tailgate guysBleed Green said:IvanBear said:Nah I'll stand by it, we've missed on recruiting Carlyle twice now. Just because we land big guys doesn't mean we land every big guy we wanted, also doesn't mean we won't be happy with this portal class (something we weren't last year).Bleed Green said:IvanBear said:
There's no denying though this means we're not really getting our first picks.
Not too late to get a new handle. You may have to take some time to get to veteran status but… Mack has not lost Scott Drew and if we get the guys rumored to be coming, this is the silliest post in a long while.
Mack doing the bare minimum his job requires of him is not a praiseworthy thing, nor is anyone walking around crediting with Mack for being the reason Drew decided to stay, we've got the life he's built in Waco to thank for that.
Top notch coping right here! Kudos man! Whatever it takes to keep your head up!
If the rumors are true, and Roach and Aidoo are headed our way, we'll likely finish this cycle with a top-20 portal haul. It would appear in that case that your concerns of missing out on our top targets would be misguided.
Did you miss the "if the rumors are true" caveat? And with or without Aidoo, I still think your conclusion will end up being misguided.IvanBear said:@bear2be2bear2be2 said:This is a silly response. You jumped to an erroneous conclusion and got called on it. What does that have to do with brown nosing the administration?IvanBear said:Brown nose the administration harder maybe it'll get you a better tailgate spot from the tailgate guysBleed Green said:IvanBear said:Nah I'll stand by it, we've missed on recruiting Carlyle twice now. Just because we land big guys doesn't mean we land every big guy we wanted, also doesn't mean we won't be happy with this portal class (something we weren't last year).Bleed Green said:IvanBear said:
There's no denying though this means we're not really getting our first picks.
Not too late to get a new handle. You may have to take some time to get to veteran status but… Mack has not lost Scott Drew and if we get the guys rumored to be coming, this is the silliest post in a long while.
Mack doing the bare minimum his job requires of him is not a praiseworthy thing, nor is anyone walking around crediting with Mack for being the reason Drew decided to stay, we've got the life he's built in Waco to thank for that.
Top notch coping right here! Kudos man! Whatever it takes to keep your head up!
If the rumors are true, and Roach and Aidoo are headed our way, we'll likely finish this cycle with a top-20 portal haul. It would appear in that case that your concerns of missing out on our top targets would be misguided.
What was that about Aidoo?
What was that about it being in erroneous conclusion we're not landing our first picks?
We're not landing all our first picks, doesn't mean our chances are shot but it does mean we continue to not be as competitive as the portal as a lot of people pretend we are.
Yeah I've never thought we end up with a bad roster. You're the one ignoring plain statements and backtracking.bear2be2 said:Did you miss the "if the rumors are true" caveat? And with or without Aidoo, I still think your conclusion will end up being misguided.IvanBear said:@bear2be2bear2be2 said:This is a silly response. You jumped to an erroneous conclusion and got called on it. What does that have to do with brown nosing the administration?IvanBear said:Brown nose the administration harder maybe it'll get you a better tailgate spot from the tailgate guysBleed Green said:IvanBear said:Nah I'll stand by it, we've missed on recruiting Carlyle twice now. Just because we land big guys doesn't mean we land every big guy we wanted, also doesn't mean we won't be happy with this portal class (something we weren't last year).Bleed Green said:IvanBear said:
There's no denying though this means we're not really getting our first picks.
Not too late to get a new handle. You may have to take some time to get to veteran status but… Mack has not lost Scott Drew and if we get the guys rumored to be coming, this is the silliest post in a long while.
Mack doing the bare minimum his job requires of him is not a praiseworthy thing, nor is anyone walking around crediting with Mack for being the reason Drew decided to stay, we've got the life he's built in Waco to thank for that.
Top notch coping right here! Kudos man! Whatever it takes to keep your head up!
If the rumors are true, and Roach and Aidoo are headed our way, we'll likely finish this cycle with a top-20 portal haul. It would appear in that case that your concerns of missing out on our top targets would be misguided.
What was that about Aidoo?
What was that about it being in erroneous conclusion we're not landing our first picks?
We're not landing all our first picks, doesn't mean our chances are shot but it does mean we continue to not be as competitive as the portal as a lot of people pretend we are.
We'll get a good transfer haul that will fit our needs and keep us competitive in the Big 12. I don't care about first, second or 10th choice. All I care about is fielding a that can win, and Scott Drew has proven he can evaluate talent well enough to bring in players capable of helping us do so.
There are a ton of good, experienced players remaining in the portal. I'll bet we get a few before all is said and done.
There's no way anyone can argue that Jeremy Roach wasn't one of our top choices, if not our top choice at guard. So you're already wrong about that.IvanBear said:Yeah I've never thought we end up with a bad roster. You're the one ignoring plain statements and backtracking.bear2be2 said:Did you miss the "if the rumors are true" caveat? And with or without Aidoo, I still think your conclusion will end up being misguided.IvanBear said:@bear2be2bear2be2 said:This is a silly response. You jumped to an erroneous conclusion and got called on it. What does that have to do with brown nosing the administration?IvanBear said:Brown nose the administration harder maybe it'll get you a better tailgate spot from the tailgate guysBleed Green said:IvanBear said:Nah I'll stand by it, we've missed on recruiting Carlyle twice now. Just because we land big guys doesn't mean we land every big guy we wanted, also doesn't mean we won't be happy with this portal class (something we weren't last year).Bleed Green said:IvanBear said:
There's no denying though this means we're not really getting our first picks.
Not too late to get a new handle. You may have to take some time to get to veteran status but… Mack has not lost Scott Drew and if we get the guys rumored to be coming, this is the silliest post in a long while.
Mack doing the bare minimum his job requires of him is not a praiseworthy thing, nor is anyone walking around crediting with Mack for being the reason Drew decided to stay, we've got the life he's built in Waco to thank for that.
Top notch coping right here! Kudos man! Whatever it takes to keep your head up!
If the rumors are true, and Roach and Aidoo are headed our way, we'll likely finish this cycle with a top-20 portal haul. It would appear in that case that your concerns of missing out on our top targets would be misguided.
What was that about Aidoo?
What was that about it being in erroneous conclusion we're not landing our first picks?
We're not landing all our first picks, doesn't mean our chances are shot but it does mean we continue to not be as competitive as the portal as a lot of people pretend we are.
We'll get a good transfer haul that will fit our needs and keep us competitive in the Big 12. I don't care about first, second or 10th choice. All I care about is fielding a that can win, and Scott Drew has proven he can evaluate talent well enough to bring in players capable of helping us do so.
There are a ton of good, experienced players remaining in the portal. I'll bet we get a few before all is said and done.
Everyone's in this thread is up in arms that I said what's happening, we're not landing our first picks from the portal.
Last year it meant we had to dig deeper for our transfers, it's looking like with the exception of Roach we'll do that again, unless there's still some guys who are yet to declare that want to come here.
We're Baylor we don't have the NIL money to whip people like the big public schools and this year we're recruiting the portal without the top two assistants on staff, that's got to make it harder from selling a guy what their life in our program will look like.
bear2be2 said:There's no way anyone can argue that Jeremy Roach wasn't one of our top choices, if not our top choice at guard. So you're already wrong about that.IvanBear said:Yeah I've never thought we end up with a bad roster. You're the one ignoring plain statements and backtracking.bear2be2 said:Did you miss the "if the rumors are true" caveat? And with or without Aidoo, I still think your conclusion will end up being misguided.IvanBear said:@bear2be2bear2be2 said:This is a silly response. You jumped to an erroneous conclusion and got called on it. What does that have to do with brown nosing the administration?IvanBear said:Brown nose the administration harder maybe it'll get you a better tailgate spot from the tailgate guysBleed Green said:IvanBear said:Nah I'll stand by it, we've missed on recruiting Carlyle twice now. Just because we land big guys doesn't mean we land every big guy we wanted, also doesn't mean we won't be happy with this portal class (something we weren't last year).Bleed Green said:IvanBear said:
There's no denying though this means we're not really getting our first picks.
Not too late to get a new handle. You may have to take some time to get to veteran status but… Mack has not lost Scott Drew and if we get the guys rumored to be coming, this is the silliest post in a long while.
Mack doing the bare minimum his job requires of him is not a praiseworthy thing, nor is anyone walking around crediting with Mack for being the reason Drew decided to stay, we've got the life he's built in Waco to thank for that.
Top notch coping right here! Kudos man! Whatever it takes to keep your head up!
If the rumors are true, and Roach and Aidoo are headed our way, we'll likely finish this cycle with a top-20 portal haul. It would appear in that case that your concerns of missing out on our top targets would be misguided.
What was that about Aidoo?
What was that about it being in erroneous conclusion we're not landing our first picks?
We're not landing all our first picks, doesn't mean our chances are shot but it does mean we continue to not be as competitive as the portal as a lot of people pretend we are.
We'll get a good transfer haul that will fit our needs and keep us competitive in the Big 12. I don't care about first, second or 10th choice. All I care about is fielding a that can win, and Scott Drew has proven he can evaluate talent well enough to bring in players capable of helping us do so.
There are a ton of good, experienced players remaining in the portal. I'll bet we get a few before all is said and done.
Everyone's in this thread is up in arms that I said what's happening, we're not landing our first picks from the portal.
Last year it meant we had to dig deeper for our transfers, it's looking like with the exception of Roach we'll do that again, unless there's still some guys who are yet to declare that want to come here.
We're Baylor we don't have the NIL money to whip people like the big public schools and this year we're recruiting the portal without the top two assistants on staff, that's got to make it harder from selling a guy what their life in our program will look like.
Like I said at the very beginning of this discussion, I'll wait to see what our portal haul looks like before I pass any judgment on it. But adding one of the top three guards in this portal class is a good start by any measure.
Go find a wing who can shoot and defend and a physical big who can bang, and we'll be in really good shape. I don't care at all where they're ranked by 247. I'm far more concerned about the skill set than I am the ranking.
Name three guards you'd take over him. And if Kanaan Carlyle's on the list, I'll laugh hysterically.IvanBear said:bear2be2 said:There's no way anyone can argue that Jeremy Roach wasn't one of our top choices, if not our top choice at guard. So you're already wrong about that.IvanBear said:Yeah I've never thought we end up with a bad roster. You're the one ignoring plain statements and backtracking.bear2be2 said:Did you miss the "if the rumors are true" caveat? And with or without Aidoo, I still think your conclusion will end up being misguided.IvanBear said:@bear2be2bear2be2 said:This is a silly response. You jumped to an erroneous conclusion and got called on it. What does that have to do with brown nosing the administration?IvanBear said:Brown nose the administration harder maybe it'll get you a better tailgate spot from the tailgate guysBleed Green said:IvanBear said:Nah I'll stand by it, we've missed on recruiting Carlyle twice now. Just because we land big guys doesn't mean we land every big guy we wanted, also doesn't mean we won't be happy with this portal class (something we weren't last year).Bleed Green said:IvanBear said:
There's no denying though this means we're not really getting our first picks.
Not too late to get a new handle. You may have to take some time to get to veteran status but… Mack has not lost Scott Drew and if we get the guys rumored to be coming, this is the silliest post in a long while.
Mack doing the bare minimum his job requires of him is not a praiseworthy thing, nor is anyone walking around crediting with Mack for being the reason Drew decided to stay, we've got the life he's built in Waco to thank for that.
Top notch coping right here! Kudos man! Whatever it takes to keep your head up!
If the rumors are true, and Roach and Aidoo are headed our way, we'll likely finish this cycle with a top-20 portal haul. It would appear in that case that your concerns of missing out on our top targets would be misguided.
What was that about Aidoo?
What was that about it being in erroneous conclusion we're not landing our first picks?
We're not landing all our first picks, doesn't mean our chances are shot but it does mean we continue to not be as competitive as the portal as a lot of people pretend we are.
We'll get a good transfer haul that will fit our needs and keep us competitive in the Big 12. I don't care about first, second or 10th choice. All I care about is fielding a that can win, and Scott Drew has proven he can evaluate talent well enough to bring in players capable of helping us do so.
There are a ton of good, experienced players remaining in the portal. I'll bet we get a few before all is said and done.
Everyone's in this thread is up in arms that I said what's happening, we're not landing our first picks from the portal.
Last year it meant we had to dig deeper for our transfers, it's looking like with the exception of Roach we'll do that again, unless there's still some guys who are yet to declare that want to come here.
We're Baylor we don't have the NIL money to whip people like the big public schools and this year we're recruiting the portal without the top two assistants on staff, that's got to make it harder from selling a guy what their life in our program will look like.
Like I said at the very beginning of this discussion, I'll wait to see what our portal haul looks like before I pass any judgment on it. But adding one of the top three guards in this portal class is a good start by any measure.
Go find a wing who can shoot and defend and a physical big who can bang, and we'll be in really good shape. I don't care at all where they're ranked by 247. I'm far more concerned about the skill set than I am the ranking.
I love Roach I think he's an elite add, but you're insane if you think he's one of the top 3 guys in this portal class.
He was the second guard we reached out to sure he wasn't in the portal at the time we reached out to Carlyle but that doesn't change we reached out to a guard before Roach, it also doesn't mean we wouldn't have, but we didn't land Carlyle. Swing and a miss. We're 1/4 on portal adds who have made decisions that we've been legitimately linked too right now, with another yet to decide but doesn't look like he's coming our way. I'm sure the batting average is actually worse and we're just not hearing all the names but that's not concerning.
It's just weird cope on this board that some people don't want to admit we're missing on guys in the portal. It's okay, it happens to every team except KU this year apparently.
It's not passing judgment on the portal class to say we're not landing our top options. It's just fact, it is also now time to be a *little* concerned because we just put a lot of effort to get out paid by Arkansas. Doesn't mean the end of the world does mean a lot of wasted time going after a guy we didn't land, and we bet on him over the other top option at the position.
Everyone misses on guys in the portal. That's how it works.IvanBear said:bear2be2 said:There's no way anyone can argue that Jeremy Roach wasn't one of our top choices, if not our top choice at guard. So you're already wrong about that.IvanBear said:Yeah I've never thought we end up with a bad roster. You're the one ignoring plain statements and backtracking.bear2be2 said:Did you miss the "if the rumors are true" caveat? And with or without Aidoo, I still think your conclusion will end up being misguided.IvanBear said:@bear2be2bear2be2 said:This is a silly response. You jumped to an erroneous conclusion and got called on it. What does that have to do with brown nosing the administration?IvanBear said:Brown nose the administration harder maybe it'll get you a better tailgate spot from the tailgate guysBleed Green said:IvanBear said:Nah I'll stand by it, we've missed on recruiting Carlyle twice now. Just because we land big guys doesn't mean we land every big guy we wanted, also doesn't mean we won't be happy with this portal class (something we weren't last year).Bleed Green said:IvanBear said:
There's no denying though this means we're not really getting our first picks.
Not too late to get a new handle. You may have to take some time to get to veteran status but… Mack has not lost Scott Drew and if we get the guys rumored to be coming, this is the silliest post in a long while.
Mack doing the bare minimum his job requires of him is not a praiseworthy thing, nor is anyone walking around crediting with Mack for being the reason Drew decided to stay, we've got the life he's built in Waco to thank for that.
Top notch coping right here! Kudos man! Whatever it takes to keep your head up!
If the rumors are true, and Roach and Aidoo are headed our way, we'll likely finish this cycle with a top-20 portal haul. It would appear in that case that your concerns of missing out on our top targets would be misguided.
What was that about Aidoo?
What was that about it being in erroneous conclusion we're not landing our first picks?
We're not landing all our first picks, doesn't mean our chances are shot but it does mean we continue to not be as competitive as the portal as a lot of people pretend we are.
We'll get a good transfer haul that will fit our needs and keep us competitive in the Big 12. I don't care about first, second or 10th choice. All I care about is fielding a that can win, and Scott Drew has proven he can evaluate talent well enough to bring in players capable of helping us do so.
There are a ton of good, experienced players remaining in the portal. I'll bet we get a few before all is said and done.
Everyone's in this thread is up in arms that I said what's happening, we're not landing our first picks from the portal.
Last year it meant we had to dig deeper for our transfers, it's looking like with the exception of Roach we'll do that again, unless there's still some guys who are yet to declare that want to come here.
We're Baylor we don't have the NIL money to whip people like the big public schools and this year we're recruiting the portal without the top two assistants on staff, that's got to make it harder from selling a guy what their life in our program will look like.
Like I said at the very beginning of this discussion, I'll wait to see what our portal haul looks like before I pass any judgment on it. But adding one of the top three guards in this portal class is a good start by any measure.
Go find a wing who can shoot and defend and a physical big who can bang, and we'll be in really good shape. I don't care at all where they're ranked by 247. I'm far more concerned about the skill set than I am the ranking.
I love Roach I think he's an elite add, but you're insane if you think he's one of the top 3 guys in this portal class.
He was the second guard we reached out to sure he wasn't in the portal at the time we reached out to Carlyle but that doesn't change we reached out to a guard before Roach, it also doesn't mean we wouldn't have, but we didn't land Carlyle. Swing and a miss. We're 1/4 on portal adds who have made decisions that we've been legitimately linked too right now, with another yet to decide but doesn't look like he's coming our way. I'm sure the batting average is actually worse and we're just not hearing all the names but that's not concerning.
It's just weird cope on this board that some people don't want to admit we're missing on guys in the portal. It's okay, it happens to every team except KU this year apparently.
It's not passing judgment on the portal class to say we're not landing our top options. It's just fact, it is also now time to be a *little* concerned because we just put a lot of effort to get out paid by Arkansas. Doesn't mean the end of the world does mean a lot of wasted time going after a guy we didn't land, and we bet on him over the other top option at the position.
We're not finished.IvanBear said:
I misread your post I thought you said all players. I would agree Roach is the best player that is going to play the point, even though he's probably best off playing a Jared Butler type role where he's about 50/50 on ball.
Roach is close but I don't think he's a top 3 guard. I do think he fills our most important need for next season thought so I'm very happy with the add.
Davis and Starr and Richmond are above him everywhere but probably On3, who's ratings seem all over the place and not well done. Kadary Richmond I understand to be a guard but some people keep listing him as a forward. But, I'll give you all 3 of those guys are not point guards and aren't going to come in to play floor general.
Carlyle would have been amazing less because of next year and more because of the following year where we'd have 2 awesome guards in our system for 2 years with him and Wright to pair with a one and done. Carlyle has a lot of upside these other guys don't because he's not a senior and it's unlikely he's going pro after next year so you get him for multiple years. Do I think he'll do great at Indiana (nah that team I think crashes and burns).
But landing one guy we really wanted doesn't mean we haven't failed to land others we really wanted. All I'm saying is longer this drags out the more it means we're not landing all our first picks.
NEWS: UNCW transfer forward Trazarien White is down to three schools, he tells @On3sports:
— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) April 30, 2024
Mississippi State
TCU
Baylor
The 6-7 junior averaged 19.8 PPG this season. https://t.co/vvrRSOpeez pic.twitter.com/pXwGdnoBRx
He's already turned down some pretty big brands to get to this list of 3, I don't think brand is driving his decision. Hopefully we can snag him.IowaBear said:
Definitely not meaningless. But I get your point. Until he commits it doesn't matter. But we're competing with 2 schools whose NIL I'm sure we can match. And from a pure BB perspective BU is a MUCH bigger brand
IvanBear said:NEWS: UNCW transfer forward Trazarien White is down to three schools, he tells @On3sports:
— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) April 30, 2024
Mississippi State
TCU
Baylor
The 6-7 junior averaged 19.8 PPG this season. https://t.co/vvrRSOpeez pic.twitter.com/pXwGdnoBRx
Encouraging news but still meaningless at this point news on that front.
IowaBear said:
Was told yesterday by a very reliable poster via DM that we would be getting a commit soon (few days) poster is rarely wrong. Don't want to get anyone's hopes up but won't be shocked if it happens
Would be a great get, and in case any UK fans are snooping on this site, the guys name is Mansfield...IvanBear said:
Seams reasonable to believe this is the Mansfield forward who is a big get but not an Aidoo level g
From a few days ago, didn't sound like the UNCW transfer. Sounded like a more notable player so this isn't as big a disappointment to me. Tbf, did like the guy as a mid major call up. Im not going to pivot just bc he isn't coming.IvanBear said:
Seems like it ended up being meaningless.
Any news on your source Iowabear?
Feels like we need to land someone soon, the best players remaining list is dwindling.
Is it, though?Big12Fan2024 said:
It is becoming evident we blew the entire budget on 1 player and left the front court barren and to be replaced by some dudes who could not start at their current school so they went in the portal. The $1.5 million and higher numbers thrown out on Roach must have been accurate.
Quinton said:From a few days ago, didn't sound like the UNCW transfer. Sounded like a more notable player so this isn't as big a disappointment to me. Tbf, did like the guy as a mid major call up. Im not going to pivot just bc he isn't coming.IvanBear said:
Seems like it ended up being meaningless.
Any news on your source Iowabear?
Feels like we need to land someone soon, the best players remaining list is dwindling.
Moving to a different 3 actually makes me think the smoke is real and a commit is coming fairly soon.
There are a few college hoop programs right now that can still get players even without being one of the highest NIL bidders.
— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) May 6, 2024
UConn
Alabama
Baylor
Big12Fan2024 said:
It is becoming evident we blew the entire budget on 1 player and left the front court barren and to be replaced by some dudes who could not start at their current school so they went in the portal. The $1.5 million and higher numbers thrown out on Roach must have been accurate.