Some box score verified secret scrimmage results from yesterday:

Baylor 83 | Grand Canyon 80
St. Joe's 77 | Providence 72
Texas Tech 75 | Drake 66
American 75 | Old Dominion 60

No box score rumor mill:

Georgetown over Maryland
Temple over Delaware
Mississippi State over…

— Trilly Donovan (@trillydonovan) October 13, 2024

This is a bit concerning: We should have been much better vs GCU. Hopefully it's because it was a scrimmage and it wasn't treated as a regular game.

historian said:

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This is a bit concerning: We should have been much better vs GCU. Hopefully it's because it was a scrimmage and it wasn't treated as a regular game.

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First and foremost, it was a scrimmage. Second, GCU won 30 Games last year and made it to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament, losing to Alabama. Third, they have almost everyone back and some interesting additions. Fourth, never take a Drew coached team lightly.

historian said:

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This is a bit concerning: We should have been much better vs GCU. Hopefully it's because it was a scrimmage and it wasn't treated as a regular game.

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I don't necessarily buyoff on preseason metrics or models but Grand Canyon is rated higher than:

UCF
Arizona St
Utah
WVU
Oklahoma St
Colorado

and almost ahead of TCU.

So basically they are almost projected to be the equivalent of a top half finisher in the Big 12.

It was our first somewhat organized game with a lot of new faces. I bet Drew played a lot of different combinations.

Arkansas beat Purdue in a scrimmage last year. This Gcu team is probably better than that Arkansas team.

A scrimmage is for trying everyone annd everything and Drew is more on the experimental side v winning side than the majority of coaches.

TWD 1974 said:

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historian said:

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This is a bit concerning: We should have been much better vs GCU. Hopefully it's because it was a scrimmage and it wasn't treated as a regular game.

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First and foremost, it was a scrimmage. Second, GCU won 30 Games last year and made it to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament, losing to Alabama. Third, they have almost everyone back and some interesting additions. Fourth, never take a Drew coached team lightly.

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All excellent points. Thanks

Thanks to everyone else as well

TWD 1974 said:

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historian said:

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This is a bit concerning: We should have been much better vs GCU. Hopefully it's because it was a scrimmage and it wasn't treated as a regular game.

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First and foremost, it was a scrimmage. Second, GCU won 30 Games last year and made it to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament, losing to Alabama. Third, they have almost everyone back and some interesting additions. Fourth, never take a Drew coached team lightly.

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And a fifth....

The team is basically a new team and needs more than a couple of weeks to gel.

These coaches do the right thing(s).
Drews meet for their GCU, Baylor teams to play, grow https://t.co/x1Ygnfitjv

— Peg Mathis, Ph.D (@PegMathis) October 13, 2024

Yogi said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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historian said:

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This is a bit concerning: We should have been much better vs GCU. Hopefully it's because it was a scrimmage and it wasn't treated as a regular game.

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First and foremost, it was a scrimmage. Second, GCU won 30 Games last year and made it to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament, losing to Alabama. Third, they have almost everyone back and some interesting additions. Fourth, never take a Drew coached team lightly.

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And a fifth....

The team is basically a new team and needs more than a couple of weeks to gel.

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Agreed. It's going to take some time to get everyone working together--particularly on defense. Non Conference could look a little rough around the edges.

The result is for sure a bit concerning even if testing a bunch of rotations, I think it probably highlights we've got gaps at a few positions we're going to have to overwhelm with offense to compensate for.

I know GCU was good last year and returning a lot of guys, but also watching that team last year we likely didn't get tested defensively in this scrimmage.

Another excellent point. We can add this as well: no reports of injuries. A couple years ago Langston Love tore his ACL during a preseason scrimmage & missed all the real games.

Do MLB fans get concerned at baseball preseason? This is silly.

It's mostly just eagerness. I cannot speak for others but I have been ready for basketball season for weeks. Also, since football has given us little reason for enthusiasm this year, MBB & WBB will fill that void.

gobears20 said:

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These coaches do the right thing(s).
Drews meet for their GCU, Baylor teams to play, grow https://t.co/x1Ygnfitjv

— Peg Mathis, Ph.D (@PegMathis) October 13, 2024

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That's one heck of a family get together. Homer must have been beaming

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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gobears20 said:

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These coaches do the right thing(s).
Drews meet for their GCU, Baylor teams to play, grow https://t.co/x1Ygnfitjv

— Peg Mathis, Ph.D (@PegMathis) October 13, 2024

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That's one heck of a family get together. Homer must have been beaming

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Hall of Fame family.

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Another excellent point. We can add this as well: no reports of injuries. A couple years ago Langston Love tore his ACL during a preseason scrimmage & missed all the real games.

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Was wondering if we could find out who suited up for the game and who didn't. I would be surprised if Lanston was cleared. It looks as if Yanis was in street clothes. Everyone else ok?

Why wouldn't LL be cleared

IowaBear said:

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Why wouldn't LL be cleared

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Drew on Oct. 9 interview said Doctors had yet to clear Love for contact. Not sure why that is. Did he have another procedure?

I sure hope not… that significantly limits Baylor's ceiling

IowaBear said:

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I sure hope not… that significantly limits Baylor's ceiling

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Hopefully just cautionary. Based on his injury record, he might want to stay bubble rapped till November...

IowaBear said:

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Why wouldn't LL be cleared

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Strangest injury history I've ever seen outside of Rising at Utah (CFB). From what I understand, he will be cleared probably late Oct but the issue is dude has to once again work his way into the flow and lineup. Not to mention conditioning.

Probably take a few losses because of it but need to make absolutely sure he is healthy for the majority of the year. Everyone has forgot how good the guy is. Top 10 scorer in the big 12 easily when healthy. Just hasn't been able to stay that way.

I'm just going to operate under the assumption he's going to play maybe 5-10 games this year. Even if he's cleared end of October there's a fat chance he gets re injured right away

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IowaBear said:

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Why wouldn't LL be cleared

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Strangest injury history I've ever seen outside of Rising at Utah (CFB). From what I understand, he will be cleared probably late Oct but the issue is dude has to once again work his way into the flow and lineup. Not to mention conditioning.

Probably take a few losses because of it but need to make absolutely sure he is healthy for the majority of the year. Everyone has forgot how good the guy is. Top 10 scorer in the big 12 easily when healthy. Just hasn't been able to stay that way.

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If Wright isn't pushing for a first or second team all big 12, I do not remotely feel good about our chances this season without a fully healthy Langston Love. Our guards are, at best, marginally better than last year without him.

If Langston is limited already to start the season that is concerning. Structurally he is as solid as it gets with his frame being what it is, just the most random injuries. I would rather he play later in the pre-conference schedule and be fit, than rush into for lineup purposes. Our ceiling is impacted big time without him in the lineup. We are not super deep, so losing him would increase reliance on freshmen. That said I I think Robert Wright is going to be a big upside surprise. He doesn't have the draft potential like VJ, but I bet he comes out of the gates more polished and ready to contribute than most expect. He has been playing big time high school ball with a team loaded with college players. He will be ready.

TWD 1974 said:

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historian said:

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Another excellent point. We can add this as well: no reports of injuries. A couple years ago Langston Love tore his ACL during a preseason scrimmage & missed all the real games.

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Was wondering if we could find out who suited up for the game and who didn't. I would be surprised if Lanston was cleared. It looks as if Yanis was in street clothes. Everyone else ok?

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I saw an in-game action shot of Yanis with the ball from the scrimmage. Still had the brace on but was playing.

Good question. I don't know. If you look at the clip closely you will have some clues.

I have been gradually watching select games from the past few seasons starting with 2019-20. I'm still in the early conference games from a year ago. It's good to refresh my memory. We are going to miss Bridges and others.

Big12Bear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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historian said:

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Another excellent point. We can add this as well: no reports of injuries. A couple years ago Langston Love tore his ACL during a preseason scrimmage & missed all the real games.

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Was wondering if we could find out who suited up for the game and who didn't. I would be surprised if Lanston was cleared. It looks as if Yanis was in street clothes. Everyone else ok?

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I saw an in-game action shot of Yanis with the ball from the scrimmage. Still had the brace on but was playing.

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That is good to hear. So much of his game was on his verticality, so I suspect this will be a longer term project with him.

Wright is one of the most skilled young players I've seen in a while. Shows flashes of Chris Paul in his game.

Obviously not nearly as good yet, but wouldn't be surprised if he isn't the second best freshman in the big 12.

historian said:

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This is a bit concerning: We should have been much better vs GCU. Hopefully it's because it was a scrimmage and it wasn't treated as a regular game.

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And Brothers don't beat up on Brothers.........important training scrimmage and a
lot of coaching, but overall, a "Learning training" game.

True Grit said:

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It was our first somewhat organized game with a lot of new faces. I bet Drew played a lot of different combinations.

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I'll bet Grand Canyon did also.

For the record

On today's Field of 68 show the 6 man panel was almost unanimous on the surprise team most likely to make a run at a Final Four berth.

Grand Canyon University