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Chucky38
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Is Langston Love refusing to play? Or is his ankle hurt?
IowaBear
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I'm sure it's not an issue of refusing to play. That said when the seasons over I hope the staff encourages LL to move on. I'm arguably his biggest fan when healthy. But he's never going to be healthy. We simply cannot rely on him. Even when he does play he's rusty from not playing for long stretches.
Johnny Bear
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Last I heard he is "day to day" as is Celestine. Which translated usually means probably not playing, but who the heck knows. After watching Josh O limp off the floor near the end of the Cincy game I'm now concerned about his status as well.
Johnny Bear
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IowaBear said:

I'm sure it's not an issue of refusing to play. That said when the seasons over I hope the staff encourages LL to move on. I'm arguably his biggest fan when healthy. But he's never going to be healthy. We simply cannot rely on him. Even when he does play he's rusty from not playing for long stretches.

It's a crying shame, but I agree. No matter how talented when healthy a player is, if he simply can't ever be counted on to stay on the floor for any length of time it's a waste for him to be tying up a scholly.
bear2be2
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Johnny Bear said:

IowaBear said:

I'm sure it's not an issue of refusing to play. That said when the seasons over I hope the staff encourages LL to move on. I'm arguably his biggest fan when healthy. But he's never going to be healthy. We simply cannot rely on him. Even when he does play he's rusty from not playing for long stretches.

It's a crying shame, but I agree. No matter how talented when healthy a player is, if he simply can't ever be counted on to stay on the floor for any length of time it's a waste for him to be tying up a scholly.
You have more scholarships than you actually use in college basketball. There's no reason to push him out of the program if he wants to stay. He's earned the right to leave Baylor on his own terms.

But I think we do need to recruit as though he won't be available to contribute in a major way if he stays. I love the guy, but his injury history is what it is. The best ability is availability, and he too rarely has that.
Crawfoso1973
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Chucky38 said:

Is Langston Love refusing to play? Or is his ankle hurt?
Why in the world would you imply he is refusing to play?
TWD 1974
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bear2be2 said:

Johnny Bear said:

IowaBear said:

I'm sure it's not an issue of refusing to play. That said when the seasons over I hope the staff encourages LL to move on. I'm arguably his biggest fan when healthy. But he's never going to be healthy. We simply cannot rely on him. Even when he does play he's rusty from not playing for long stretches.

It's a crying shame, but I agree. No matter how talented when healthy a player is, if he simply can't ever be counted on to stay on the floor for any length of time it's a waste for him to be tying up a scholly.
You have more scholarships than you actually use in college basketball. There's no reason to push him out of the program if he wants to stay. He's earned the right to leave Baylor on his own terms.

But I think we do need to recruit as though he won't be available to contribute in a major way if he stays. I love the guy, but his injury history is what it is. The best ability is availability, and he too rarely has that.
I do find it interesting that so many are harping on Langston's scholarship when we have 4 scholarship players on the bench who are not playing at all--2 of whom are in their second season of not playing. This is the weakest bench we have had since Drews early years, when we literally didn't have one.
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tres leches
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in the pre-game warmup of the Cincinnati game, I saw several of the players (especially Langston Love) trying to show off by dunking the ball - as if they were in some contest. Langston did some crazy 360 kind of move...missed the dunk...and then held his hand afterwards as he stood under the basket. He then went and showed his hand to one of the coaches. Langston did play in the game, and as I recall missed everything he put up. I do not know whether his hand is now the problem or not. But, that kind of horsing around has little place when players are getting ready to play and should be getting focused for the game. Especially is this true for someone who has a history of injuries. Save the dunks for the game!
TWD 1974
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tres leches said:

in the pre-game warmup of the Cincinnati game, I saw several of the players (especially Langston Love) trying to show off by dunking the ball - as if they were in some contest. Langston did some crazy 360 kind of move...missed the dunk...and then held his hand afterwards as he stood under the basket. He then went and showed his hand to one of the coaches. Langston did play in the game, and as I recall missed everything he put up. I do not know whether his hand is now the problem or not. But, that kind of horsing around has little place when players are getting ready to play and should be getting focused for the game. Especially is this true for someone who has a history of injuries. Save the dunks for the game!
Langston didn't play at all in the Cincy game. Is it possible you were thinking of the Utah game? Also, Langston's injury is to his ankle. If he can't dunk, he's likely not playing or practicing.

For those who missed the 70's (you didn't miss a whole lot) the dunk had been outlawed, seemingly in the hopes of stopping Kareem and UCLA. After about 10 years, the NCAA loosened up about it, and the SWC said it was ok to dunk in the game but not in the pregame. When a visiting team dunked in the warmup, refs called a technical foul. Texas coach Abe Lemons ordered the player to shoot the pre-game technical with his back turned to the basket, which showed what he thought of the rule. Not sure it was ever called again.
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Johnny Bear
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TWD 1974 said:

tres leches said:

in the pre-game warmup of the Cincinnati game, I saw several of the players (especially Langston Love) trying to show off by dunking the ball - as if they were in some contest. Langston did some crazy 360 kind of move...missed the dunk...and then held his hand afterwards as he stood under the basket. He then went and showed his hand to one of the coaches. Langston did play in the game, and as I recall missed everything he put up. I do not know whether his hand is now the problem or not. But, that kind of horsing around has little place when players are getting ready to play and should be getting focused for the game. Especially is this true for someone who has a history of injuries. Save the dunks for the game!
Langston didn't play at all in the Cincy game. Is it possible you were thinking of the Utah game? Also, Langston's injury is to his ankle. If he can't dunk, he's likely not playing or practicing.

For those who missed the 70's (you didn't miss a whole lot) the dunk had been outlawed, seemingly in the hopes of stopping Kareem and UCLA. After about 10 years, the NCAA loosened up about it, and the SWC said it was ok to dunk in the game but not in the pregame. When a visiting team dunked in the warmup, refs called a technical foul. Texas coach Abe Lemons ordered the player to shoot the pre-game technical with his back turned to the basket, which showed what he thought of the rule. Not sure it was ever called again.

Sounds just like an Abe Lemons type thing to do. That guy was a nut.
Task Force 2015
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Scholarships cannot be terminated due to injury.One possibility for someone who can't ever get healthy enough is a career ending medical retirement that frees up the athletics scholarship.I hope Langston gets healthy and can play regularly.
Robert Wilson
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bear2be2 said:

Johnny Bear said:

IowaBear said:

I'm sure it's not an issue of refusing to play. That said when the seasons over I hope the staff encourages LL to move on. I'm arguably his biggest fan when healthy. But he's never going to be healthy. We simply cannot rely on him. Even when he does play he's rusty from not playing for long stretches.

It's a crying shame, but I agree. No matter how talented when healthy a player is, if he simply can't ever be counted on to stay on the floor for any length of time it's a waste for him to be tying up a scholly.
You have more scholarships than you actually use in college basketball. There's no reason to push him out of the program if he wants to stay. He's earned the right to leave Baylor on his own terms.

But I think we do need to recruit as though he won't be available to contribute in a major way if he stays. I love the guy, but his injury history is what it is. The best ability is availability, and he too rarely has that.
I agree with all that.

But another thing about LL, *if* he somehow got healthy at the right time for the home stretch and postseason, we would be a much more dangerous team.
historian
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huge "if"
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Psalm 119:36
Big12Fan2024
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We are essentially halfway through the season. Unfortunately you don't suddenly get better from an ankle injury that is still having issues a year after it was initially injured. Anyone counting on more than a few token appearances and performances at about a fraction of what we necessarily thought he would give us this year has a high probability of being disappointed and his stats so far in the games he has played reflect that.

The biggest thing he could give us for the remainder of the year is playing a few minutes here and there when he can so that others can at least get a breather. What we're accomplishing right now with essentially 6 guys + a very raw but promising freshman (Asemota) is actually pretty impressive.
smtreece1
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Great point on the bench. Any chance someone on the SicEm staff can get an update on Yanis? One more athlete to set screens, play with energy, and rebound for 6-8 minutes a game would be a huge asset moving forward. Lessens wear and tear and foul trouble issues. It would also give them flexibility to play bigger for stretches. I like the small lineup just not when the 3 guards are Wright, Nunn, and Roach, too easy with our switching defense to find the mismatch down low.
longtimebear
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I think Langston should retire and get on with his life. Poor kid, just cant stay healthy.
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