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Gameday Thread: No. 25 Baylor Returns To Waco To Face Rival TCU

January 17, 2025
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No. 25 Baylor (11-5, 3-2) hosts TCU (9-7, 2-3) Sunday, Jan. 19 at 4 p.m. CST at Foster Pavilion. The game will be televised on ESPN.  

Predictions

KenPom: Baylor 74, TCU 62

Torvik: Baylor 71, TCU 61

Evan Miyakawa: Baylor 77, TCU 63

Haslemetrics: Baylor 71, TCU 61

Coaches

TCU: Jamie Dixon (59) 497-240 (169-117 at TCU); 15 NCAAs; 3 Sweet 16s; Elite 8

Baylor: Scott Drew (54); 477-260 overall (457-249 at Baylor); 12 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head: 9-6 Drew

TCU Starters

  • Guard: Noah Reynolds (Sr.) 6-3 200 lbs; 13 ppg; 4 asst; 46% FG; 34% 3pt; 70% FT
  • Guard: Vasean Allette (So.) 6-2 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 4 reb; 3 asst; 38% FG; 25% 3pt; 71% FT
  • Guard: Micah Robinson (Fr.) 6-6 225 lbs; 6 ppg; 43% FG; 37% 3pt; 84% FT
  • Forward: David Punch (Fr.) 6-7 245 lbs; 6 ppg; 5 reb; 49% FG; 17% 3pt; 44% FT
  • Forward: Ernest Udeh (Jr.) 6-11 260 lbs; 7 ppg; 8 reb; 2 blks; 62% FG; 54% FT

TCU Bench

  • Forward: Trazarien White (Sr.) 6-6 185 lbs; 10 ppg; 3 reb; 41% FG; 37% pt; 67% FT
  • Forward: Brendan Wenzel (Sr.) 6-8 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 41% FG; 45% 3pt; 78% FT

Baylor Starters

  • Guard: Jeremy Roach (Sr.) 6-2 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 4 asst; 42% FG; 35% 3pt; 670% FT
  • Guard: Jayden Nunn (Sr.) 6-4 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 41% FG; 47% 3pt; 71% FT
  • Guard: VJ Edgecombe (Fr.) 6-5 190 lbs; 13 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 2 st; 42% FG; 32% 3pt 71% FT
  • Forward: Norchad Omier (Sr.) 6-7 245 lbs; 16 ppg; 10 reb; 60% FG; 29% 3pt; 73% FT
  • Forward: Josh Ojianwuna (Jr.) 6-10 255 lbs; 8 ppg; 7 reb; 78% FG; 63% FT

Baylor Bench

  • *Guard: Langston Love (Jr.) 6-5 215 lbs; 7 ppg; 3 reb; 36% FG; 29% 3pt; 75% FT 
  • *Forward: Jalen Celestine (Sr.) 6-7 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 39% FG; 38% 3pt; 100% FT
  • Guard: Rob Wright (Fr.) 6-1 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 5 asst; 47% FG; 40% 3pt; 77% FT
  • Forward: Jason Asemota (FR) 6-8 200 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 32% FG; 21% 3pt; 33% FT

*sat out the last four games with injuries*

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Gameday Thread: No. 25 Baylor Returns To Waco To Face Rival TCU

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bear2be2
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5:25p, 1/19/25
Great pass by Edgecombe.

If he was just a little better as a finisher and shooter, I'd love his game. He'll probably get there eventually, it just won't be in a Baylor uniform.
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5:25p, 1/19/25
Beautiful court vision by VJ.
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5:26p, 1/19/25
There's a tough finish by Nunn. Good to see.
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5:27p, 1/19/25
And then ****ty defense on the other end.
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5:27p, 1/19/25
Fran is 100% correct. The more aggressive VJ gets, the better we become on offense.
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5:29p, 1/19/25
Unlike AT&T Stadium, Foster has blackout curtains to keep out the setting sun. Kinda reminiscent of the old heavy dark velvet curtains at the HOT Coliseum.
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5:30p, 1/19/25
VJ will be an absolute monster in the league 2 or 3 years down the road when he gets that man strength.
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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 5:32p, 1/19/25
Big12Fan2024 said:
Fran is 100% correct. The more aggressive VJ gets, the better we become on offense.
If he can get to a point where he's consistently finishing at the rim, he's going to be a hard player to stop.

I still don't like his jumpshot, though, and wish he would stop settling for guarded 3s.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 5:34p, 1/19/25
bear2be2 said:
Big12Fan2024 said:
Fran is 100% correct. The more aggressive VJ gets, the better we become on offense.
If he can get to a point where he's consistently finishing at the rim, he's going to be a hard player to stop.

I still don't like his jumpshot, though.


Yeah he's got a weird hitch.

And we need to run more sets for him..there's no one (or no one yet) who can guard him on penetration.
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5:34p, 1/19/25
I've watched Udeh clank free throw after free throw after free throw all year and suddenly he becomes a 90% FT shooter.
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5:35p, 1/19/25
Our offense completely boggs down when Wright comes off the court. How do we not have another player who can competently run the point?
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In reply to bear2be2 • 5:37p, 1/19/25
bear2be2 said:
Big12Fan2024 said:
Fran is 100% correct. The more aggressive VJ gets, the better we become on offense.
If he can get to a point where he's consistently finishing at the rim, he's going to be a hard player to stop.

I still don't like his jumpshot, though, and wish he would stop settling for guarded 3s.

Yep, he's the one guy who has the burst to take someone off the dribble. He's just keep improving his ability to finish. Wright can take a guy off the dribble but unfortunately size wise he's easy to block from behind, kinda like Nunn. Roach just doesn't have the burst to take a good high major defender off the dribble.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 5:37p, 1/19/25
They wanted Roach to do it but failed experiment. He and Celestine have been huge portal misses thus far. Still time left to turn things around though.
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5:39p, 1/19/25
As Fran keeps saying, we're just letting them hang around.
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5:42p, 1/19/25
This game has been a sloppy mess. I still think we'll win. But I'm not sure we deserve to.
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5:42p, 1/19/25
What is Nunn doing
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 5:43p, 1/19/25
Crawfoso1973 said:
They wanted Roach to do it but failed experiment. He and Celestine have been huge portal misses thus far. Still time left to turn things around though.
They wanted Nunn to as well. Maybe stop recruiting Make a Wish transfers to be your secondary ball-handler and recruit an actual point guard instead.
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5:43p, 1/19/25
Clutch
I have found theres only two ways to go:
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
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5:44p, 1/19/25
Big corner 3 from Roach there. That was huge.
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5:45p, 1/19/25
TCU is hitting some tough shots this half.
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5:46p, 1/19/25
Wright made up for a terrible turnover with a tremendous steal.

We would have lost the lead without that play.
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5:46p, 1/19/25
LOL. Baylor is giving this game away but refs are definitely trying to help too.
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GoodOleBaylorLine said:
LOL. Baylor is giving this game away but refs are definitely trying to help too.
I agree with the first part. I think the officiating has been fine for the most part. They've let both teams be physical.
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5:47p, 1/19/25
Hard to feel real confident going forward with today's performance. That remains true even if we win. This is a piss poor TCU squad giving the Bears all they can handle
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IowaBear said:
Hard to feel real confident going forward with today's performance. That remains true even if we win. This is a piss poor TCU squad giving the Bears all they can handle
At some point, a team has to decide what it wants to be. And this one seems content to be slightly above average.

If a game like the Arizona game doesn't serve as a gut-check, nothing will. And we've had four of those games already this season.
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GoodOleBaylorLine said:
LOL. Baylor is giving this game away but refs are definitely trying to help too.
I agree with the first part. I think the officiating has been fine for the most part. They've let both teams be physical.

Two obvious uncalled fouls in the last 5 minutes or so . TCU's bigs consistently going over he back on rebounds. I would agree if fouls were even, but they're not.

But to be very clear, this is Baylor choking primarily

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5:50p, 1/19/25
I hate our defense. The switching is stupid and doesn't work. We've been singing this damn song for three years now.
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5:51p, 1/19/25
I don't know if we lead the country in any statistical category but I guaran-damn-tee you will lead the country in most layups blocked by an opposing team.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 5:52p, 1/19/25
Beyond dumb. I'd rather them go zone
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In reply to GoodOleBaylorLine • 5:52p, 1/19/25
GoodOleBaylorLine said:
bear2be2 said:
GoodOleBaylorLine said:
LOL. Baylor is giving this game away but refs are definitely trying to help too.
I agree with the first part. I think the officiating has been fine for the most part. They've let both teams be physical.

Two obvious uncalled fouls in the last 5 minutes or so . TCU's bigs consistently going over he back on rebounds.

But to be very clear, this is Baylor choking primarily

It's been very physical. I'll definitely give you that. I just think we've benefited at times from fouls that weren't called on us as well.
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5:52p, 1/19/25
Seems like frogs want it more.
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5:52p, 1/19/25
6 point swing on officiating calls
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5:53p, 1/19/25
This team sucks.

It's got no marbles.
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Seems like frogs want it more.
Mainly because we don't want it all
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5:54p, 1/19/25
Gonna be rough for the sun shine pumpers to defend this…
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