Luka Doncic traded...

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The older the better for Nico

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I am a lifelong Mavs fan… But I kind of hate that the front office got rewarded with a get out of jail free card in the draft

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Well...this Finals matchup does need lend much credence to the league being rigged or scripted

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NBA need not fear the "small market" teams. They need to keep it clean for two reasons.

1) small market teams gain large followings with success - see Green Bay in the NFL.

2) This year's playoffs were already tainted due to suspicions of rigging. Water was poisoned for casual fans early. Rigging is short term garbage thinking.
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GSG!

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boognish_bear said:



Ouch!

Something must be in the air here in Dallas. First the Luka trade, then the Micah Parsons trade by the Cowboys
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boognish_bear said:



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Method Man said:

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Method Man said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

There has to be a secret agenda ... no rational person with a brain would make this trade.
There's probably not a secret agenda. The organization put a salesman in charge supervised by a manager of casinos. They don't understand the game. Luka is a Savant and no he doesn't have to do what others do to be great. He's the Natural. You can't teach and train and work hard and develop a Super High Basketball IQ. You're born with it, or you're not.

There are 29 other teams that would have offered more than the Lakers, if they had it to offer. One thing you can teach is if you have a rare asset and decide to sell it you auction it off and sell it to the highest bidder. You don't negotiate a private sale.
You guys still aren't getting it.

The Mavericks have never, ever been a great defensive team.

These are only two seasons that they've ever finished the year as a top 10 team in defensive Net rating.
#5 in 2006-07 they went 67-15
#7 in 2010-11 they went 57-25 and won the NBA title.

The Mavericks have never in their franchise history ever had an Hakeem Olajuwon, Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan type of two big man that can also anchor an elite defense.

The Mavs were regularly top 3 (and many seasons #1) in the NBA in offensive Net rating under Dirk, Nash and Luka.
The Spurs (under Tim Duncan) were almost always top 5 in defense.
Which franchise has more titles and NBA Finals appearances?

The Mavs traded their worst defensive player for the best defensive big in the NBA.

The Mavs would have only done this trade for AD or Giannis. Milwaukee probably doesn't do it because the chances of Luka staying in Wisconsin past this initial 1.5 years is low.

The Lakers feel like they have the best chance of keeping Luka long term...but there is also no guarantee he stays in LA.




Do you think the Mavericks got a fair trade?
I would have liked one additional 1st round draft pick....but yes I do.

This has never happened. Two 1st team All-NBA players have never been traded for each other.

All the Luka stans keep acting like the Mavs got nothing back in return....what they got was a Defensive player of the year nominee that can do 3 things.....two of which Luka can't do at all:
1. Anchor an elite defense
2. block about 2-3 shots per game
3. score about 22-25 PPG

Max Christie will be the replacement for Dorian Finney Smith. Excellent defensive player and very smart.
The Mavs are trying to make themselves much more athletic and stronger defensively.

20 years ago the Mavs let Steve Nash walk. People always make it out to be a mistake for the Mavs because of the success that Nash would go onto have in Phoenix.

The Mavs had their best 3 year stretch in franchise history in the three years after Nash's departure going 58-24, 60-22 and 67-15.
Jason Terry was almost as good offensively as Nash and about 85% as clutch. Devin Harris was 10x the perimeter defender that Nash was. The Mavs replaced Nash's output with more athleticism and defense.

I think the same scenario will play out with Luka and the Mavs.





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Please be true

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boognish_bear said:

Method Man said:

boognish_bear said:

Method Man said:

BUCANDOIT82 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

There has to be a secret agenda ... no rational person with a brain would make this trade.

There's probably not a secret agenda. The organization put a salesman in charge supervised by a manager of casinos. They don't understand the game. Luka is a Savant and no he doesn't have to do what others do to be great. He's the Natural. You can't teach and train and work hard and develop a Super High Basketball IQ. You're born with it, or you're not.

There are 29 other teams that would have offered more than the Lakers, if they had it to offer. One thing you can teach is if you have a rare asset and decide to sell it you auction it off and sell it to the highest bidder. You don't negotiate a private sale.

You guys still aren't getting it.

The Mavericks have never, ever been a great defensive team.

These are only two seasons that they've ever finished the year as a top 10 team in defensive Net rating.
#5 in 2006-07 they went 67-15
#7 in 2010-11 they went 57-25 and won the NBA title.

The Mavericks have never in their franchise history ever had an Hakeem Olajuwon, Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan type of two big man that can also anchor an elite defense.

The Mavs were regularly top 3 (and many seasons #1) in the NBA in offensive Net rating under Dirk, Nash and Luka.
The Spurs (under Tim Duncan) were almost always top 5 in defense.
Which franchise has more titles and NBA Finals appearances?

The Mavs traded their worst defensive player for the best defensive big in the NBA.

The Mavs would have only done this trade for AD or Giannis. Milwaukee probably doesn't do it because the chances of Luka staying in Wisconsin past this initial 1.5 years is low.

The Lakers feel like they have the best chance of keeping Luka long term...but there is also no guarantee he stays in LA.




Do you think the Mavericks got a fair trade?

I would have liked one additional 1st round draft pick....but yes I do.

This has never happened. Two 1st team All-NBA players have never been traded for each other.

All the Luka stans keep acting like the Mavs got nothing back in return....what they got was a Defensive player of the year nominee that can do 3 things.....two of which Luka can't do at all:
1. Anchor an elite defense
2. block about 2-3 shots per game
3. score about 22-25 PPG

Max Christie will be the replacement for Dorian Finney Smith. Excellent defensive player and very smart.
The Mavs are trying to make themselves much more athletic and stronger defensively.

20 years ago the Mavs let Steve Nash walk. People always make it out to be a mistake for the Mavs because of the success that Nash would go onto have in Phoenix.

The Mavs had their best 3 year stretch in franchise history in the three years after Nash's departure going 58-24, 60-22 and 67-15.
Jason Terry was almost as good offensively as Nash and about 85% as clutch. Devin Harris was 10x the perimeter defender that Nash was. The Mavs replaced Nash's output with more athleticism and defense.

I think the same scenario will play out with Luka and the Mavs.







We bet everything on getting that NBA championship by last year. And we didn't... and now we are going to pay for it.
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Assassin said:

boognish_bear said:

Method Man said:

boognish_bear said:

Method Man said:

BUCANDOIT82 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

There has to be a secret agenda ... no rational person with a brain would make this trade.

There's probably not a secret agenda. The organization put a salesman in charge supervised by a manager of casinos. They don't understand the game. Luka is a Savant and no he doesn't have to do what others do to be great. He's the Natural. You can't teach and train and work hard and develop a Super High Basketball IQ. You're born with it, or you're not.

There are 29 other teams that would have offered more than the Lakers, if they had it to offer. One thing you can teach is if you have a rare asset and decide to sell it you auction it off and sell it to the highest bidder. You don't negotiate a private sale.

You guys still aren't getting it.

The Mavericks have never, ever been a great defensive team.

These are only two seasons that they've ever finished the year as a top 10 team in defensive Net rating.
#5 in 2006-07 they went 67-15
#7 in 2010-11 they went 57-25 and won the NBA title.

The Mavericks have never in their franchise history ever had an Hakeem Olajuwon, Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan type of two big man that can also anchor an elite defense.

The Mavs were regularly top 3 (and many seasons #1) in the NBA in offensive Net rating under Dirk, Nash and Luka.
The Spurs (under Tim Duncan) were almost always top 5 in defense.
Which franchise has more titles and NBA Finals appearances?

The Mavs traded their worst defensive player for the best defensive big in the NBA.

The Mavs would have only done this trade for AD or Giannis. Milwaukee probably doesn't do it because the chances of Luka staying in Wisconsin past this initial 1.5 years is low.

The Lakers feel like they have the best chance of keeping Luka long term...but there is also no guarantee he stays in LA.




Do you think the Mavericks got a fair trade?

I would have liked one additional 1st round draft pick....but yes I do.

This has never happened. Two 1st team All-NBA players have never been traded for each other.

All the Luka stans keep acting like the Mavs got nothing back in return....what they got was a Defensive player of the year nominee that can do 3 things.....two of which Luka can't do at all:
1. Anchor an elite defense
2. block about 2-3 shots per game
3. score about 22-25 PPG

Max Christie will be the replacement for Dorian Finney Smith. Excellent defensive player and very smart.
The Mavs are trying to make themselves much more athletic and stronger defensively.

20 years ago the Mavs let Steve Nash walk. People always make it out to be a mistake for the Mavs because of the success that Nash would go onto have in Phoenix.

The Mavs had their best 3 year stretch in franchise history in the three years after Nash's departure going 58-24, 60-22 and 67-15.
Jason Terry was almost as good offensively as Nash and about 85% as clutch. Devin Harris was 10x the perimeter defender that Nash was. The Mavs replaced Nash's output with more athleticism and defense.

I think the same scenario will play out with Luka and the Mavs.







We bet everything on getting that NBA championship by last year. And we didn't... and now we are going to pay for it.


Didn't even come close to getting a whiff. A colossal swing and miss that will have this franchise in the basement for years to come.

It's sucks being a Dallas sports fan and being saddled with the team ownership we have with the Mavs and Cowboys. Feels perpetually hopeless.
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I haven't watched a Mavericks game since the Luka trade and won't until the team is sold.

Nico is trash, but this whole organization sucks right now. I wish it nothing but failure as long as it's controlled and run by scumbags.
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I don't think I will ever get over the Luka trade.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

I don't think I will ever get over the Luka trade.

Me neither. The dumbest trade in NBA history. Nico will never be forgiven. If we wanted to trade him, it would be offered to all teams IN TH EAST. Certainly not in the West. And he is easily worth 3 #1s from a sub 500 team. The picks should have been top 15 on all three of them
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Mitch Blood Green said:

I don't think I will ever get over the Luka trade.

I know I won't. I haven't watched a Mavericks game since, and I have no desire whatsoever to support that franchise at the moment.

It sucks because I've been a fan since I was a kid, but I don't see myself ever returning as long as this ownership group is in control.
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bear2be2 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

I don't think I will ever get over the Luka trade.

I know I won't. I haven't watched a Mavericks game since, and I have no desire whatsoever to support that franchise at the moment.

It sucks because I've been a fan since I was a kid, but I don't see myself ever returning as long as this ownership group is in control.


I grew up a Bulls fan and when Jordan came along, it was 10 amazing years. In my mind, Luka was on that trajectory.
 
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