IowaBear said:

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Asemota transferring doesn't surprise me at all. But holy hell are we going to need a transfer haul

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I'm trying figure out why anyone would invest in this sport at this point. We're just rooting for a rotating collection of nameless/faceless players in Baylor laundry at this point.

The players who do live up to expectations for the one year they're here still feel like outsiders, and those who don't feel like a complete waste of time and effort.

College sports in 2025 absolutely blow.

Yeah it's hard to fathom at this point. The entire roster is going to be completely new next year outside of Rob. And it's entirely possible the roster after next season is also entirely new. Hard to invest knowing this. Would love to get a group from the portal with multiple years to play. Guys with chips on their shoulders who will produce day 1 but also be here more than 1 year

“In everything, give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you” 1 Thessalonians 5:18@BaylorMBB Thank you. 💚 pic.twitter.com/yjqE2TTd5N

— Jason Asemota (@jasonxasemota) March 25, 2025

IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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Agree with you this season.

But the prior two seasons, everyone fully expected Sochan to stay more than one year when he signed and the same for Missi.

If both stay for a 2nd season, BU is likely a top 10 team consistently - the type of consistency that prevents situations like this off season where they had to scramble to build a roster.

What a huge task for programs to comb through all those potential candidates

More than 1,000 Division 1 men's basketball players have entered the transfer portal since it opened yesterday.

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) March 26, 2025

Absolutely asinine numbers. That's like 3 per D1 team and more will enter.

Here are the top 25 players in the transfer portal at https://t.co/cegyfz96ax, headlined by Donovan Dent and Bennett Stirtz: pic.twitter.com/1opJu6FDtF

— Evan Miyakawa (@EvanMiya) March 25, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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What a huge task for programs to comb through all those potential candidates

More than 1,000 Division 1 men's basketball players have entered the transfer portal since it opened yesterday.

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) March 26, 2025

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Absolutely absurd. And there are currently no efforts being made by anyone to fix any of this.

The best any of these "leaders" in college athletics can come up with is calling on our worthless congress to save them -- something as likely to happen as a bipartisan immigration, healthcare or abortion bill.

IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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First of all, it's not Drew's money to spend. It's not Baylor's money to spend. NCAA rules are still pretty clear on this. NIL money comes from people willing to pay players for name, image,etc. for advertising, collectibles and whatever else we can think of to pretend this isn't just playing players. Coaches, when trying to land a player will reach out to the NIL coordinator who then looks at the market for that player and then looks at the base of donors/investors who might make the deal happen. The market is key as the market can be determined by the reputation of the player. Jeremy Roach had a high market value because he played three years with what is perhaps the most high-profile team in the sport. It would have been assumed that a portion of the NIL commitment would be paid by that national interest in Roach. Raising money for a player with that profile may be a great deal easier than finding money for a backup power forward off the bench. You may disagree, but I think landing Omier was a great get for us. I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright. Assuming and hoping he is back next year; I think that was a good decision. Where we missed was backup players, similar to last year as well. The only way to get better backups last summer was to overpay for them. Folks can keep telling me we had all the money we wanted but just didn't use it, but I am old enough to smell bs when I am in the vicinity of it.

We have a good relationship with his head coach

NEWS: Wichita State big man Quincy Ballard is officially in the transfer portal, a source tells @LeagueRDY.

Ballard is a 7-foot big who began his career playing two seasons at Florida State before playing the last three at Wichita State. Native of Syracuse, New York.

Averaged… pic.twitter.com/DDB7cnWcU7

— Sam Kayser - 24/7 High School Hoops (@247HSHoops) March 26, 2025

TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright.

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I wish we'd stop focusing so much on profile and focus more on skill set and fit. Our post-title star-chasing strategy has pretty much been a disaster for our program. It's resulted in a series of increasingly low-ceiling teams and revolving-door rosters.

If you look around our league, the teams that are doing the things we want to be -- winning conference championships and making deep tournament runs -- are doing so with really good college players who likely won't do a thing in the NBA.

Our fascination with the NBA measurables of players who won't come close to achieving their ceilings in the one year they're on campus and NBA aspirations of players who insist on playing out of position has left us with talented but ill-fitting/deeply flawed rosters relying on players who are as concerned -- if not more -- with showcasing themselves to scouts as/than they are playing winning college basketball.

I want us to get back to recruiting for the college game. We seem to have lost sight that the goal here is to compete for championships, not to collect meaningless Freshman of the Year awards and to brag about draft picks.

bear2be2 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright.

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I wish we'd stop focusing so much on profile and focus more on skill set and fit. Our post-title star-chasing strategy has pretty much been a disaster for our program. It's resulted in a series of increasingly low-ceiling teams and revolving-door rosters.

If you look around our league, the teams that are doing the things we want to be -- winning conference championships and making deep tournament runs -- are doing so with really good college players who likely won't do a thing in the NBA.

Our fascination with the NBA measurables of players who won't come close to achieving their ceilings in the one year they're on campus and NBA aspirations of players who insist on playing out of position has left us with talented but ill-fitting/deeply flawed rosters relying on players who are as concerned -- if not more -- with showcasing themselves to scouts as/than they are playing winning college basketball.

I want us to get back to recruiting for the college game. We seem to have lost sight that the goal here is to compete for championships, not to collect meaningless Freshman of the Year awards and to brag about draft picks.

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I would agree with you that we need more continuity on our roster. The problem as I see it is that the portal and NIL is a much greater disrupter of that continuity than any other factor. One-and-Dones comprise only one (last year 2) out of 13. We are looking to replace a half dozen at least--pretty sure only one is going to the NBA. There is no way around it: giving 19-21 years the complete freedom to portal out every year is creating havoc. I have to admit it, if I had a portal button to press, I might have punched it my Freshman year when Collins Cafeteria ran out of steak on steak night (at 5:30, somethings you never get over). To frame how big the transfer change has been, if Cryer had transferred to UH under the old transfer within conf. rules, he would be eligible to play for them next year, for the first time.

A lot of young players want to play the wrong position--didn't Asemota want to play guard? Come to think of it, Robert Perry Jr. wanted to play point. One of the tasks of Coaching is to bring them to reality. Easier said than done.

Recruiting nothing but One-and-Dones doesn't work, except it might this year. I think you can win with one top level freshman so long as you combine that freshman with good, experienced players. What seems true to me is that you recruit talent, and work for experience. I can't remember the coach who said it, but he said "You always want talent and experience. If you can only get one of those, get talent." 2 things that hurt us the most this year in my view: 1. Lack of a quality backup at C/PF, and 2. inconsistency in our guards. These were deficiencies not in the elite players, which again comprised 2/13ths of the roster, but in the veteran and transfers.

How is Sampson keeping continuity by paying less? Their OU transfer pg is getting borderline peanuts compared to other transfer starters.

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How is Sampson keeping continuity by paying less? Their OU transfer pg is getting borderline peanuts compared to other transfer starters.

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Don't know anything about Uzan, if that is who you mean. My questions are, where are you hearing about his compensation and who is telling you. Colleges are not reporting on individuals. Individual players are not being forced to, though NCAA wants them to. I would think a lot of schools are telling players to keep quiet. Revealing a new player is making a 100k more than a current player can be deadly. Houston seems to be bragging about how little they pay, but Sampson has never been light on the money pedal, and never one to talk about it unless before a grand jury. He'll be 70 this year, looking to go out a winner I think.

Iowa St Transfers - Out

Dishon Jackson C - big body; avg 19 minuts a game, 8.5 ppg; 5.1 rebounds; 6'11" - 275
Kayden Fish F -- bench warmer; played in only 9 games
Demarion Watson - Wing - played in 18 games; mainly mop up; only avg 9 minutes a game
JT Rock - C - bench warmer; played in only 9 games in mop up; 7'1" 260


Iowa St is considered the leader for:

-Oscar Cluff from South Dakota St - 6'11" 260 lbs - 17.6 ppg; 12.3 rebounds (#2 in the D1); On all the Top 25 Portal lists

-Mason Williams - Eastern Washington - 6'5" guard; 14 ppg;

TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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First of all, it's not Drew's money to spend. It's not Baylor's money to spend. NCAA rules are still pretty clear on this. NIL money comes from people willing to pay players for name, image,etc. for advertising, collectibles and whatever else we can think of to pretend this isn't just playing players. Coaches, when trying to land a player will reach out to the NIL coordinator who then looks at the market for that player and then looks at the base of donors/investors who might make the deal happen. The market is key as the market can be determined by the reputation of the player. Jeremy Roach had a high market value because he played three years with what is perhaps the most high-profile team in the sport. It would have been assumed that a portion of the NIL commitment would be paid by that national interest in Roach. Raising money for a player with that profile may be a great deal easier than finding money for a backup power forward off the bench. You may disagree, but I think landing Omier was a great get for us. I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright. Assuming and hoping he is back next year; I think that was a good decision. Where we missed was backup players, similar to last year as well. The only way to get better backups last summer was to overpay for them. Folks can keep telling me we had all the money we wanted but just didn't use it, but I am old enough to smell bs when I am in the vicinity of it.

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Do you not understand Drew is fundraising for the NIL fund and every major college coach has direct impact on how that NIL fund is spent. Are you in some fantasy land where the coach is not allocating the budget? You seem to get at it that he is, but it really seems like you're trying to sluff responsibility off Drew for not building a proper roster and pin it on donations or something. Drew knows how much he has to work with and that directly impacts who he's going after etc.

He clearly blew the budget last year on two transfer guys one who at least produced at the level he was paid one who certainly did not, neither contributed to us being a good team. These decisions are on him, many teams are doing more with spending less, most of the sweet 16 had smaller budgets than us, they're just better at spending it. It's okay Drew is allowed to make bad decisions he's human. Roach was a colossal miss and if you talked to any Duke fans before the season they all called it, they were excited to see him go - it's a bummer Drew didn't pick up on this.

Drew has to spend his budget on building a program not a one year rotation of 6 guys like he keeps doing.

USC freshman guard Isaiah Elohim has entered the transfer portal.

He first committed to Muss at Arkansas and then followed him to L.A. He averaged just 5.4 minutes per game and 2.1 points.

— Ryan Kartje (@Ryan_Kartje) March 25, 2025

He was a true freshman this year, for those of you seeking roster continuity. We are one of the schools mentioned to have contacted him and had recruited him previously. He was a 4/5 star in high school with a Final 3 of Villanova, Kansas, Arkansas. He went with Muss to USC so he never ended up at Arkansas.

Didn't really follow USC closely this year so I have no idea why he didn't get off the bench very much.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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USC freshman guard Isaiah Elohim has entered the transfer portal.

He first committed to Muss at Arkansas and then followed him to L.A. He averaged just 5.4 minutes per game and 2.1 points.

— Ryan Kartje (@Ryan_Kartje) March 25, 2025

He was a true freshman this year, for those of you seeking roster continuity. We are one of the schools mentioned to have contacted him and had recruited him previously. He was a 4/5 star in high school with a Final 3 of Villanova, Kansas, Arkansas. He went with Muss to USC so he never ended up at Arkansas.

Didn't really follow USC closely this year so I have no idea why he didn't get off the bench very much.

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Muss had a dumpster fire of a year - he may just not be that emotionally stable. Not sure I'd overly read into performance of any players there this year. Would love to grab more young guys who have talent potential we think we can draw out.

TWD 1974 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright.

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I wish we'd stop focusing so much on profile and focus more on skill set and fit. Our post-title star-chasing strategy has pretty much been a disaster for our program. It's resulted in a series of increasingly low-ceiling teams and revolving-door rosters.

If you look around our league, the teams that are doing the things we want to be -- winning conference championships and making deep tournament runs -- are doing so with really good college players who likely won't do a thing in the NBA.

Our fascination with the NBA measurables of players who won't come close to achieving their ceilings in the one year they're on campus and NBA aspirations of players who insist on playing out of position has left us with talented but ill-fitting/deeply flawed rosters relying on players who are as concerned -- if not more -- with showcasing themselves to scouts as/than they are playing winning college basketball.

I want us to get back to recruiting for the college game. We seem to have lost sight that the goal here is to compete for championships, not to collect meaningless Freshman of the Year awards and to brag about draft picks.

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I would agree with you that we need more continuity on our roster. The problem as I see it is that the portal and NIL is a much greater disrupter of that continuity than any other factor. One-and-Dones comprise only one (last year 2) out of 13. We are looking to replace a half dozen at least--pretty sure only one is going to the NBA. There is no way around it: giving 19-21 years the complete freedom to portal out every year is creating havoc. I have to admit it, if I had a portal button to press, I might have punched it my Freshman year when Collins Cafeteria ran out of steak on steak night (at 5:30, somethings you never get over). To frame how big the transfer change has been, if Cryer had transferred to UH under the old transfer within conf. rules, he would be eligible to play for them next year, for the first time.

A lot of young players want to play the wrong position--didn't Asemota want to play guard? Come to think of it, Robert Perry Jr. wanted to play point. One of the tasks of Coaching is to bring them to reality. Easier said than done.

Recruiting nothing but One-and-Dones doesn't work, except it might this year. I think you can win with one top level freshman so long as you combine that freshman with good, experienced players. What seems true to me is that you recruit talent, and work for experience. I can't remember the coach who said it, but he said "You always want talent and experience. If you can only get one of those, get talent." 2 things that hurt us the most this year in my view: 1. Lack of a quality backup at C/PF, and 2. inconsistency in our guards. These were deficiencies not in the elite players, which again comprised 2/13ths of the roster, but in the veteran and transfers.

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Nitpicking but not true on Cryer. He would be playing his last year of eligibility (only because of COVID year) this year. I guess it would actually depend on whether UH was in the conference when he transferred. If yes, then he would sit a year and lose that year of eligibility, meaning without the COVID extension he wouldn't have been able to play for UH. If not in the conference when he transferred this would be his last year.

Iron Claw said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright.

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I wish we'd stop focusing so much on profile and focus more on skill set and fit. Our post-title star-chasing strategy has pretty much been a disaster for our program. It's resulted in a series of increasingly low-ceiling teams and revolving-door rosters.

If you look around our league, the teams that are doing the things we want to be -- winning conference championships and making deep tournament runs -- are doing so with really good college players who likely won't do a thing in the NBA.

Our fascination with the NBA measurables of players who won't come close to achieving their ceilings in the one year they're on campus and NBA aspirations of players who insist on playing out of position has left us with talented but ill-fitting/deeply flawed rosters relying on players who are as concerned -- if not more -- with showcasing themselves to scouts as/than they are playing winning college basketball.

I want us to get back to recruiting for the college game. We seem to have lost sight that the goal here is to compete for championships, not to collect meaningless Freshman of the Year awards and to brag about draft picks.

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I would agree with you that we need more continuity on our roster. The problem as I see it is that the portal and NIL is a much greater disrupter of that continuity than any other factor. One-and-Dones comprise only one (last year 2) out of 13. We are looking to replace a half dozen at least--pretty sure only one is going to the NBA. There is no way around it: giving 19-21 years the complete freedom to portal out every year is creating havoc. I have to admit it, if I had a portal button to press, I might have punched it my Freshman year when Collins Cafeteria ran out of steak on steak night (at 5:30, somethings you never get over). To frame how big the transfer change has been, if Cryer had transferred to UH under the old transfer within conf. rules, he would be eligible to play for them next year, for the first time.

A lot of young players want to play the wrong position--didn't Asemota want to play guard? Come to think of it, Robert Perry Jr. wanted to play point. One of the tasks of Coaching is to bring them to reality. Easier said than done.

Recruiting nothing but One-and-Dones doesn't work, except it might this year. I think you can win with one top level freshman so long as you combine that freshman with good, experienced players. What seems true to me is that you recruit talent, and work for experience. I can't remember the coach who said it, but he said "You always want talent and experience. If you can only get one of those, get talent." 2 things that hurt us the most this year in my view: 1. Lack of a quality backup at C/PF, and 2. inconsistency in our guards. These were deficiencies not in the elite players, which again comprised 2/13ths of the roster, but in the veteran and transfers.

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Nitpicking but not true on Cryer. He would be playing his last year of eligibility (only because of COVID year) this year. I guess it would actually depend on whether UH was in the conference when he transferred. If yes, then he would sit a year and lose that year of eligibility, meaning without the COVID extension he wouldn't have been able to play for UH. If not in the conference when he transferred this would be his last year.

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I was referring to transfer rules in the old conference, which would require a transferring player to sit for 2 years instead of one. It pretty much eliminated the inconference transfers. Mute point obviously, just made to point out how far the pendulum has swung.

Arizona State freshman and former 5 🌟 Joson Sanon has committed to St. John’s, per @DraftExpress.

Rick Pitino is already cooking 🍳👀 pic.twitter.com/wsrNzrXSWs

— College Basketball Report (@CBKReport) March 26, 2025

TWD 1974 said:

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Iron Claw said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright.

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I wish we'd stop focusing so much on profile and focus more on skill set and fit. Our post-title star-chasing strategy has pretty much been a disaster for our program. It's resulted in a series of increasingly low-ceiling teams and revolving-door rosters.

If you look around our league, the teams that are doing the things we want to be -- winning conference championships and making deep tournament runs -- are doing so with really good college players who likely won't do a thing in the NBA.

Our fascination with the NBA measurables of players who won't come close to achieving their ceilings in the one year they're on campus and NBA aspirations of players who insist on playing out of position has left us with talented but ill-fitting/deeply flawed rosters relying on players who are as concerned -- if not more -- with showcasing themselves to scouts as/than they are playing winning college basketball.

I want us to get back to recruiting for the college game. We seem to have lost sight that the goal here is to compete for championships, not to collect meaningless Freshman of the Year awards and to brag about draft picks.

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I would agree with you that we need more continuity on our roster. The problem as I see it is that the portal and NIL is a much greater disrupter of that continuity than any other factor. One-and-Dones comprise only one (last year 2) out of 13. We are looking to replace a half dozen at least--pretty sure only one is going to the NBA. There is no way around it: giving 19-21 years the complete freedom to portal out every year is creating havoc. I have to admit it, if I had a portal button to press, I might have punched it my Freshman year when Collins Cafeteria ran out of steak on steak night (at 5:30, somethings you never get over). To frame how big the transfer change has been, if Cryer had transferred to UH under the old transfer within conf. rules, he would be eligible to play for them next year, for the first time.

A lot of young players want to play the wrong position--didn't Asemota want to play guard? Come to think of it, Robert Perry Jr. wanted to play point. One of the tasks of Coaching is to bring them to reality. Easier said than done.

Recruiting nothing but One-and-Dones doesn't work, except it might this year. I think you can win with one top level freshman so long as you combine that freshman with good, experienced players. What seems true to me is that you recruit talent, and work for experience. I can't remember the coach who said it, but he said "You always want talent and experience. If you can only get one of those, get talent." 2 things that hurt us the most this year in my view: 1. Lack of a quality backup at C/PF, and 2. inconsistency in our guards. These were deficiencies not in the elite players, which again comprised 2/13ths of the roster, but in the veteran and transfers.

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Nitpicking but not true on Cryer. He would be playing his last year of eligibility (only because of COVID year) this year. I guess it would actually depend on whether UH was in the conference when he transferred. If yes, then he would sit a year and lose that year of eligibility, meaning without the COVID extension he wouldn't have been able to play for UH. If not in the conference when he transferred this would be his last year.

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I was referring to transfer rules in the old conference, which would require a transferring player to sit for 2 years instead of one. It pretty much eliminated the inconference transfers. Moot point obviously, just made to point out how far the pendulum has swung.

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I am too and they didn't have to sit for 2 years. They sat 1 and lost that year, could not count it as a redshirt. My point was if he only had one year of eligibility left he couldn't have transferred inside the conference because he would have lost his last year of eligibility.

NEWS: 2025 5⭐️ Koa Peat is making his college announcement tomorrow on the @PatMcAfeeShow, per his Instagram. Peat is down to these five schools:

Houston
Arizona
Arizona State
Texas
Baylor

Peat is a tough, athletic, physical forward who guards multiple positions defensively and… pic.twitter.com/mFF9m6hCRz

— Sam Kayser - 24/7 High School Hoops (@247HSHoops) March 27, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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NEWS: 2025 5⭐️ Koa Peat is making his college announcement tomorrow on the @PatMcAfeeShow, per his Instagram. Peat is down to these five schools:

Houston
Arizona
Arizona State
Texas
Baylor

Peat is a tough, athletic, physical forward who guards multiple positions defensively and… pic.twitter.com/mFF9m6hCRz

— Sam Kayser - 24/7 High School Hoops (@247HSHoops) March 27, 2025

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Is he going to Texas. Why else would ESPN give him airtime

IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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Seems to be a trend among ALL Baylor coaches - - - knowing that, the real issue is the GUY who is Signing the checks. Mac needs to go...

IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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This is the model we need and how we won a natty. I'm not convinced Drew will do it.

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If we can get the money commitment. Nothing is possible without that.

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Money hasn't been our problem, Drew's very poor spending of it has.

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First of all, it's not Drew's money to spend. It's not Baylor's money to spend. NCAA rules are still pretty clear on this. NIL money comes from people willing to pay players for name, image,etc. for advertising, collectibles and whatever else we can think of to pretend this isn't just playing players. Coaches, when trying to land a player will reach out to the NIL coordinator who then looks at the market for that player and then looks at the base of donors/investors who might make the deal happen. The market is key as the market can be determined by the reputation of the player. Jeremy Roach had a high market value because he played three years with what is perhaps the most high-profile team in the sport. It would have been assumed that a portion of the NIL commitment would be paid by that national interest in Roach. Raising money for a player with that profile may be a great deal easier than finding money for a backup power forward off the bench. You may disagree, but I think landing Omier was a great get for us. I also think Jeremy was a good signing, though we are disappointed with how it turned out. We were not likely getting a higher profile pg in the portal without losing Wright. Assuming and hoping he is back next year; I think that was a good decision. Where we missed was backup players, similar to last year as well. The only way to get better backups last summer was to overpay for them. Folks can keep telling me we had all the money we wanted but just didn't use it, but I am old enough to smell bs when I am in the vicinity of it.

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Do you not understand Drew is fundraising for the NIL fund and every major college coach has direct impact on how that NIL fund is spent. Are you in some fantasy land where the coach is not allocating the budget? You seem to get at it that he is, but it really seems like you're trying to sluff responsibility off Drew for not building a proper roster and pin it on donations or something. Drew knows how much he has to work with and that directly impacts who he's going after etc.

He clearly blew the budget last year on two transfer guys one who at least produced at the level he was paid one who certainly did not, neither contributed to us being a good team. These decisions are on him, many teams are doing more with spending less, most of the sweet 16 had smaller budgets than us, they're just better at spending it. It's okay Drew is allowed to make bad decisions he's human. Roach was a colossal miss and if you talked to any Duke fans before the season they all called it, they were excited to see him go - it's a bummer Drew didn't pick up on this.

Drew has to spend his budget on building a program not a one year rotation of 6 guys like he keeps doing.

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Additional point. It's not about the NIL for NEW PLAYERS but the additional spend to KEEP the EXISTING PLAYERS....I have ZERO confidence in Mac's ability to help Drew in NIL Funding and allocation....

Starting big man issue should be solved in the very near future. Expect UConn big man Tarris Reed Jr. to enter the portal soon (most likely today) and Baylor be the front runner. He will be expensive, easily north of 1 million.

Obi Agbim was very close to a commit, but Kentucky is pushing for him. Hopefully Drew is able to fend them off and secure a commit. Adding Agbim, Reed, Carr would be a very strong start to this year's portalszn. Fingers crossed.

In no way shape or form should BU be spending 1 million on freaking Tarris Reed…. Especially when the entire roster needs revamped. I'd hope a lesson was learned when Roach got a giant bag to do next to nothing. Anything more than 400k is way over spending on Reed. I'm also fine with passing on the Wyoming kid. BU isn't in a position to shell out huge chunks of its nil to a single player when they literally need 6-7 new impact players

IowaBear said:

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In no way shape or form should BU be spending 1 million on freaking Tarris Reed…. Especially when the entire roster needs revamped. I'd hope a lesson was learned when Roach got a giant bag to do next to nothing. Anything more than 400k is way over spending on Reed. I'm also fine with passing on the Wyoming kid. BU isn't in a position to shell out huge chunks of its nil to a single player when they literally need 6-7 new impact players

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Agreed. There are a ton of guys in the portal who can do what Reed does almost as well that would come waaaaaaayyyyy cheaper.

Reed is a good two-way big, but if he's asking for a million, hard pass.

Pretty sure they lost two years of eligibility in conference, can't remember if they had to sit for two.

IowaBear said:

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In no way shape or form should BU be spending 1 million on freaking Tarris Reed…. Especially when the entire roster needs revamped. I'd hope a lesson was learned when Roach got a giant bag to do next to nothing. Anything more than 400k is way over spending on Reed. I'm also fine with passing on the Wyoming kid. BU isn't in a position to shell out huge chunks of its nil to a single player when they literally need 6-7 new impact players

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Player reps will be looking to drive the price up for their players. If the revenue share deal comes in next year, agents could see a money-making window closing after this year.

Iowa, looking at our situation in a triage fashion, what do you think are our most acute needs in the portal, 1-5?
We seem to facing a near-tabula rasa.