Why does Baylor have only 8 men on the roster?

NWASicem said:

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Why does Baylor have only 8 men on the roster?

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8 + ATV injury minus one + basketball injury minus one + redshirt minus one = 11

Don't they need more than this

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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NWASicem said:

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Why does Baylor have only 8 men on the roster?

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8 + ATV injury minus one + basketball injury minus one + redshirt minus one = 11

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It's actually redshirt minus three.

All three of our non one-and-done freshmen appear to be redshirting in Andre Iguodala Jr., Maikcol Perez and Mayo Soyoye.

It would appear that we're returning to a more of a vintage Scott Drew roster-building strategy with those program/project guys. I'm pumped to see if we can develop those guys into quality rotation players as we did for years before the NIL/transfer portal era.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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NWASicem said:

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Why does Baylor have only 8 men on the roster?

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8 + ATV injury minus one + basketball injury minus one + redshirt minus one = 11

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It's actually redshirt minus three.

All three of our non one-and-done freshmen appear to be redshirting in Andre Iguodala Jr., Maikcol Perez and Mayo Soyoye.

It would appear that we're returning to a more vintage Scott Drew roster-building strategy with those program/project guys. I'm pumped to see if we can develop those guys into quality rotation players as we did for years before the NIL/transfer portal era.

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Perez is one of the injuries mentioned. Soyoye redshirt mention. The other roster players were not mentioned because I doubt they ever see anything other than mop up duty. Jordan Turner item.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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NWASicem said:

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Why does Baylor have only 8 men on the roster?

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8 + ATV injury minus one + basketball injury minus one + redshirt minus one = 11

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It's actually redshirt minus three.

All three of our non one-and-done freshmen appear to be redshirting in Andre Iguodala Jr., Maikcol Perez and Mayo Soyoye.

It would appear that we're returning to a more vintage Scott Drew roster-building strategy with those program/project guys. I'm pumped to see if we can develop those guys into quality rotation players as we did for years before the NIL/transfer portal era.

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This is a bit misleading because Perez is out for the year with an ACL injury, otherwise he would have been a key rotation player. And it's not that CSD hasn't tried developing players these past few years. Guys like Dubravic, Miro Little, and going back a little farther Loveday and Jordan Turner. These guys haven't panned out for different reasons, and now they can just leave. Hopefully guys like Soyoye and Iguadala will choose to stick around and not just transfer out after their one year of development.

Crawfoso1973 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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NWASicem said:

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Why does Baylor have only 8 men on the roster?

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8 + ATV injury minus one + basketball injury minus one + redshirt minus one = 11

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It's actually redshirt minus three.

All three of our non one-and-done freshmen appear to be redshirting in Andre Iguodala Jr., Maikcol Perez and Mayo Soyoye.

It would appear that we're returning to a more vintage Scott Drew roster-building strategy with those program/project guys. I'm pumped to see if we can develop those guys into quality rotation players as we did for years before the NIL/transfer portal era.

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This is a bit misleading because Perez is out for the year with an ACL injury, otherwise he would have been a key rotation player. And it's not that CSD hasn't tried developing players these past few years. Guys like Dubravic, Miro Little, and going back a little farther Loveday and Jordan Turner. These guys haven't panned out for different reasons, and now they can just leave. Hopefully guys like Soyoye and Iguadala will choose to stick around and not just transfer out after their one year of development.

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This year was the first in ages that we brought in more than one developmental freshman, marking a major departure from a recent -- and failed -- recruiting trend/strategy.

And Perez would have likely seen some playing time this year, but "key rotation player" is a stretch. He's not the project that Iguodala and Soyoye were, but he also wasn't a guy we were ever expecting significant minutes from as a freshman. I was excited about his combination of size and skill set when we added him and still am. But he was always projected to be a developmental/program guy.

15 players

2 - were targeted to redshirt (Soyoye, Igoudala)

10 - Available rotation was going to include 10 (the 8 we've seen, Bodo Bodo and Perez, although desire was to hold back Perez as long as possible and potentially redshirt if not needed. That decision was made for them with Perez's season ending ACL injury.)

3 - (2 essentially walk-on type players and 1 who played high school ball with Tounde)

We can agree to disagree on Perez. I think he was in line to be a key cog immediately, not a developmental guy.

Crawfoso1973 said:

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We can agree to disagree on Perez. I think he was in line to be a key cog immediately, not a developmental guy.

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Who did you envision him playing over? This team is loaded at the wing spot and has a stretch four it invested heavily in.

He may have gotten some time, especially with injuries, but he wasn't going be playing consistently over Carr, Yessefou, Skillings or Rataj.

He was going to be the eighth or ninth guy in the rotation most likely.

He wasn't playing "over" those guys but would have been part of an 8 or 9 man rotation composed of versatile players capable of playing multiple positions. I don't think we came in looking at a 6 or 7 man rotation like in years past. Now due to injuries yet again we may have no choice.

Crawfoso1973 said:

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He wasn't playing "over" those guys but would have been part of an 8 or 9 man rotation composed of versatile players capable of playing multiple positions. I don't think we came in looking at a 6 or 7 man rotation like in years past. Now due to injuries yet again we may have no choice.

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I don't view the eighth or ninth player in a rotation likely to be trimmed to seven or eight by conference play as a "key rotation player."

I really like Perez and think he'll be a good player for us. But I don't think anyone expected him to be a major contributor for this year's team. A potential back-of-the-rotation guy, sure. But someone whose best basketball is a year or two ahead of him.

Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

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Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

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Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

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There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables, just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

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Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

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There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

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Vegas was built on "if you try hard enough you can buck the odds" mindsets.
Baylor doesn't have the resources to "hope". Baylor requires probability.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

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Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

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There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

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Vegas was built on "if you try hard enough you can buck the odds" mindsets.
Baylor doesn't have the resources to "hope". Baylor requires probability.

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Houston doesn't have a single resource that Baylor men's basketball doesn't. They're managing to do all of the things I'm talking about here.

Does Sampson wine about it? Sure. But he continues to find guys to do the things he wants them to do, keeps them in his program and wins at an elite level.

None of these things you and others call impossible here are impossible. Multiple programs in our own league -- with no resource advantage over our own -- are managing to do these things without major issue.

The good thing is our last class (both portal and high school) was a clear shift away from the failed recruiting and development strategies that many of you guys still advocate for our program.

We'll see if it works. But others have shown time and again that (while more difficult in the NIL era) these things can, indeed, still be done.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

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Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

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This. Talented player like Perez wouldn't come and sit.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

---

Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

---

There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

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Vegas was built on "if you try hard enough you can buck the odds" mindsets.
Baylor doesn't have the resources to "hope". Baylor requires probability.

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Houston doesn't have a single resource that Baylor men's basketball doesn't. They're managing to do all of the things I'm talking about here.

Does Sampson wine about it? Sure. But he continues to find guys to do the things he wants them to do, keeps them in his program and wins at an elite level.

None of these things you and others call impossible here are impossible. Multiple programs in our own league -- with no resource advantage over our own -- are managing to do these things without major issue.

The good thing is our last class (both portal and high school) was a clear shift away from the failed recruiting and development strategies that many of you guys still advocate for our program.

We'll see if it works. But others have shown time and again that (while more difficult in the NIL era) these things can, indeed, still be done.

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LMFAO…. UH is providing every player a luxury car as part of their NIL deals. Care to tell us when Baylor started that item?

Crawfoso1973 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

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Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

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This. Talented player like Perez wouldn't come and sit.

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McCarty's recruiting profile is very similar to Perez's. He accepted a redshirt at Houston. Same with Alex Karaban at UConn and numerous others.

It's not that these guys aren't capable of playing or contributing as freshmen. It's that roster dynamics make playing opportunities extremely scarce and make redshirting make more sense.

You don't think Johnathan Motley wanted to play as a freshman or was capable of contributing in some role that year? Of course he did and was. But he would have wasted a year of eligibility trying to find playing time behind better and more experienced players at that time. That dynamic hasn't changed with NIL. Unless you're a one-and-done guy, you often have to wait your turn to play when you enter a successful program as a freshman.

That was the situation Perez was walking into this year. He could have chosen to be the ninth man off the bench and get six minutes a game -- many players do. But he was never going to supplant the better (at this stage) and more experienced players that were ahead of him on the playing time pecking order. Other than losing the practice time, which is a huge blow, the injury likely helped him avoid a wasted year, where he was as likely as not to be this year's Jason Asemota.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

---

Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

---

There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

---

Vegas was built on "if you try hard enough you can buck the odds" mindsets.
Baylor doesn't have the resources to "hope". Baylor requires probability.

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Houston doesn't have a single resource that Baylor men's basketball doesn't. They're managing to do all of the things I'm talking about here.

Does Sampson wine about it? Sure. But he continues to find guys to do the things he wants them to do, keeps them in his program and wins at an elite level.

None of these things you and others call impossible here are impossible. Multiple programs in our own league -- with no resource advantage over our own -- are managing to do these things without major issue.

The good thing is our last class (both portal and high school) was a clear shift away from the failed recruiting and development strategies that many of you guys still advocate for our program.

We'll see if it works. But others have shown time and again that (while more difficult in the NIL era) these things can, indeed, still be done.

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LMFAO…. UH is providing every player a luxury car as part of their NIL deals. Care to tell us when Baylor started that item?

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Baylor fans need to stop crying poor. Our resources aren't the -- or even a -- problem. We're recruiting at the highest level we ever have in the NIL era. We just happened to be recruiting to a strategy that doesn't bear consistent fruit in modern college basketball. That many of you want to watch us continue down that same failed path is odd.

The @DukeMBB had a budget of $21.4 million in 2022-23, the third largest in the country, while the @GatorsMBK had a budget of $8.4 million that ranked 77th in the nation. The other two No. 1 seeds fell in between— @AuburnMBB expenses totaled $15 million and @UHCougarFB equaled… https://t.co/nKqKDhhPSL pic.twitter.com/Hp22qT4NC8

— Sportico (@Sportico) March 17, 2025

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

---

Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

---

There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

---

Vegas was built on "if you try hard enough you can buck the odds" mindsets.
Baylor doesn't have the resources to "hope". Baylor requires probability.

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Houston doesn't have a single resource that Baylor men's basketball doesn't. They're managing to do all of the things I'm talking about here.

Does Sampson wine about it? Sure. But he continues to find guys to do the things he wants them to do, keeps them in his program and wins at an elite level.

None of these things you and others call impossible here are impossible. Multiple programs in our own league -- with no resource advantage over our own -- are managing to do these things without major issue.

The good thing is our last class (both portal and high school) was a clear shift away from the failed recruiting and development strategies that many of you guys still advocate for our program.

We'll see if it works. But others have shown time and again that (while more difficult in the NIL era) these things can, indeed, still be done.

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LMFAO…. UH is providing every player a luxury car as part of their NIL deals. Care to tell us when Baylor started that item?

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Baylor fans need to stop crying poor. Our resources aren't the -- or even a -- problem. We're recruiting at the highest level we ever have in the NIL era. We just happened to be recruiting to a strategy that doesn't bear consistent fruit in modern college basketball. That many of you want to watch us continue down that same failed path is odd.

The @DukeMBB had a budget of $21.4 million in 2022-23, the third largest in the country, while the @GatorsMBK had a budget of $8.4 million that ranked 77th in the nation. The other two No. 1 seeds fell in between— @AuburnMBB expenses totaled $15 million and @UHCougarFB equaled… https://t.co/nKqKDhhPSL pic.twitter.com/Hp22qT4NC8

— Sportico (@Sportico) March 17, 2025

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Do you think we are stupid? A chart about expenses….. which include things like coaches salaries isn't an apples to apples comp on NIL budget. Stop with the nonsense.

Players don't care if our budget is higher. They care if their paycheck is higher.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

---

Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

---

There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

---

Vegas was built on "if you try hard enough you can buck the odds" mindsets.
Baylor doesn't have the resources to "hope". Baylor requires probability.

---

Houston doesn't have a single resource that Baylor men's basketball doesn't. They're managing to do all of the things I'm talking about here.

Does Sampson wine about it? Sure. But he continues to find guys to do the things he wants them to do, keeps them in his program and wins at an elite level.

None of these things you and others call impossible here are impossible. Multiple programs in our own league -- with no resource advantage over our own -- are managing to do these things without major issue.

The good thing is our last class (both portal and high school) was a clear shift away from the failed recruiting and development strategies that many of you guys still advocate for our program.

We'll see if it works. But others have shown time and again that (while more difficult in the NIL era) these things can, indeed, still be done.

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LMFAO…. UH is providing every player a luxury car as part of their NIL deals. Care to tell us when Baylor started that item?

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Baylor fans need to stop crying poor. Our resources aren't the -- or even a -- problem. We're recruiting at the highest level we ever have in the NIL era. We just happened to be recruiting to a strategy that doesn't bear consistent fruit in modern college basketball. That many of you want to watch us continue down that same failed path is odd.

The @DukeMBB had a budget of $21.4 million in 2022-23, the third largest in the country, while the @GatorsMBK had a budget of $8.4 million that ranked 77th in the nation. The other two No. 1 seeds fell in between— @AuburnMBB expenses totaled $15 million and @UHCougarFB equaled… https://t.co/nKqKDhhPSL pic.twitter.com/Hp22qT4NC8

— Sportico (@Sportico) March 17, 2025

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Do you think we are stupid? A chart about expenses….. which include things like coaches salaries isn't an apples to apples comp on NIL budget. Stop with the nonsense.

Players don't care if our budget is higher. They care if their paycheck is higher.

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Are you under the impression we have a poor NIL budget? We've been a top destination for both freshman and portal targets in the NIL era. Our resources are fine. Are they infinite? Obviously not. But they're very good by modern college basketball standards.

Investment isn't an issue for our program and crying poor is just excuse-making. Particularly when a number of programs in our own conference who invest less are having more success.

Comparing Motley and others from pre NIL era is an apples to oranges comparison. Asemota is a perfect example. He clearly needed to develop, but wasn't willing to redshirt and work in his game. He just left for immediate playing time and money. By the tone of your posts you act like we enjoy the current NIL basketball climate. I hate it, but it is reality.

Crawfoso1973 said:

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Comparing Motley and others from pre NIL era is an apples to oranges comparison. Asemota is a perfect example. He clearly needed to develop, but wasn't willing to redshirt and work in his game. He just left for immediate playing time and money. By the tone of your posts you act like we enjoy the current NIL basketball climate. I hate it, but it is reality.

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I'm not saying all players are willing to redshirt. But I've already pointed out two in winning programs who were and I could keep adding to that list if you'd like me to.

You guys talk about recruiting as though a) all players are the same and have the same goals and priorities (they don't) and b) coaches don't build relationships with and lay out visions for these players ahead of their arrival on campus (they do).

Y'all constantly talk in absolutes that are easily debunked with example after example. Does that mean you can convince all players to redshirt? Obviously not. Does that mean you won't lose some players you want to keep to the portal? Obviously, you will. But these things aren't impossible ... and we can point to example after example that prove that.

Recruiting in the NIL is more difficult because there's a monetary baseline you have to meet that's different for every player. But once those basic monetary requirements are met (and we have the money to meet them in most cases), it's still about the same things it's always been about -- building a program culture that guys want to be/stay a part of and proving through your on-court and development track record that you can help players meet their goals.

I simply refuse to believe that we can't do the same things that programs like Houston, Gonzaga and UConn are proving year after year can still be done.

Our post-championship recruiting/development strategy was a choice -- not an inevitability forced upon us by NIL or the transfer portal. I've said that forever and stand by that position. Thankfully, we've finally started to move away from some of the trends that have had us spinning our wheels since the end of the injury-plagued 2021-22 season and toward those that the teams that have been more successful than us have been managed to employee ... even in the NIL era.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Crawfoso1973 said:

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Yes, which is different from a red shirt or developmental guy.. I think he was better than that and ready to contribute immediately.

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We redshirted Johnathan Motley. Being redshirted in our program doesn't mean you can't play.

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Any example pre-NIL is not really relevant. Players are no longer recruited to sit. Players know playing time equals a bigger paycheck.

---

There's a Houston example to debunk virtually every absolute our fans try to throw out about modern recruiting and roster construction.

Chase McCarty, a four-star recruit with NBA measurables just redshirted last year for Sampson.

College athletes aren't monoliths. If you sell a vision and explain how they'll be benefitted, you can still get some guys to buy in to certain roles and ideas. It's all about finding the right culture and roster fits.

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Vegas was built on "if you try hard enough you can buck the odds" mindsets.
Baylor doesn't have the resources to "hope". Baylor requires probability.

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Houston doesn't have a single resource that Baylor men's basketball doesn't. They're managing to do all of the things I'm talking about here.

Does Sampson wine about it? Sure. But he continues to find guys to do the things he wants them to do, keeps them in his program and wins at an elite level.

None of these things you and others call impossible here are impossible. Multiple programs in our own league -- with no resource advantage over our own -- are managing to do these things without major issue.

The good thing is our last class (both portal and high school) was a clear shift away from the failed recruiting and development strategies that many of you guys still advocate for our program.

We'll see if it works. But others have shown time and again that (while more difficult in the NIL era) these things can, indeed, still be done.

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LMFAO…. UH is providing every player a luxury car as part of their NIL deals. Care to tell us when Baylor started that item?

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Baylor fans need to stop crying poor. Our resources aren't the -- or even a -- problem. We're recruiting at the highest level we ever have in the NIL era. We just happened to be recruiting to a strategy that doesn't bear consistent fruit in modern college basketball. That many of you want to watch us continue down that same failed path is odd.

The @DukeMBB had a budget of $21.4 million in 2022-23, the third largest in the country, while the @GatorsMBK had a budget of $8.4 million that ranked 77th in the nation. The other two No. 1 seeds fell in between— @AuburnMBB expenses totaled $15 million and @UHCougarFB equaled… https://t.co/nKqKDhhPSL pic.twitter.com/Hp22qT4NC8

— Sportico (@Sportico) March 17, 2025

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Do you think we are stupid? A chart about expenses….. which include things like coaches salaries isn't an apples to apples comp on NIL budget. Stop with the nonsense.

Players don't care if our budget is higher. They care if their paycheck is higher.

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Are you under the impression we have a poor NIL budget? We've been a top destination for both freshman and portal targets in the NIL era. Our resources are fine. Are they infinite? Obviously not. But they're very good by modern college basketball standards.

Investment isn't an issue for our program and crying poor is just excuse-making. Particularly when a number of programs in our own conference who invest less are having more success.

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We have a Top 25 to Top 40 NIL budget.
We are getting Top 25 results.
Amazing how that reality plays out.

We need to fine tune our approach to figure a way to be Top 10 two to three times per decade and Top 25 consistently. But your Wave a Magic Wand talking point isn't realistic. A certain degree of good fortune is required. Either 1-2 players need to massively over-perform predictions or 7-8 players need to slightly over-perform. And we have to dump the damn dribble weave nonsense.

The improvement will be trial and error in an ever changing environment. Luck is part of the formula.