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In reply to Ewalker80 • 2:03a, 1/26/26
Ewalker80 said:
Drew's entire strength is building a strong culture, but that has been trumped by money. He has got to find a way to keep guys around longer so he can develop them Maybe we only do 3 year contracts for players unless they are the one and done guy for the year. I'm not aware of any reason we can't do it, other than the market, but it would be way worth it to pay a little more for lesser players that can stay around develop care about Baylor and be an actual basketball program again. Go find the next Flagler Teague Freddie etc and get a few developmental guys from high school and overseas. One year contracts do not work for us.

It's just crazy -- and extremely frustrating -- to me that no one (other than Tang, coincidentally) is having as hard a time in this era as we are.

Even **** programs like UCF and TCU and broke programs like West Virginia and Iowa State are lapping us right now. That should not be happening.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 4:58a, 1/26/26
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TWD 1974 said:
bear2be2 said:
Mitch Henessey said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.

Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.

I agree with the 2-year window: I can't see Drew staying beyond that if it's not turning around. As to comparisons with the Bliss era, though, the Dave Bliss era never produced a 20-win season, or a post season win of any kind, or anything close to .500 in the Big 12. His best conference win total was 6. While we look upon last year's team as a downturn, the 10 conference wins, and 20-15, record, if compared to results prior to Drew, would be the best year since the Iba big year 40 years ago.

Bliss made the NIT in 2000-01. We won 19 games that year -- six in the Big 12.

I don't think we'll hit either of those marks this season, unfortunately, even with two extra conference games.

Are we really comparing CSD to Dave Bliss after one bad season?
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 8:30a, 1/26/26
No, he's very obviously comparing bliss last season to the current season
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:31a, 1/26/26
bear2be2 said:
TWD 1974 said:
bear2be2 said:
Mitch Henessey said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.

Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.

I agree with the 2-year window: I can't see Drew staying beyond that if it's not turning around. As to comparisons with the Bliss era, though, the Dave Bliss era never produced a 20-win season, or a post season win of any kind, or anything close to .500 in the Big 12. His best conference win total was 6. While we look upon last year's team as a downturn, the 10 conference wins, and 20-15, record, if compared to results prior to Drew, would be the best year since the Iba big year 40 years ago.

Bliss made the NIT in 2000-01. We won 19 games that year -- six in the Big 12.

I don't think we'll hit either of those marks this season, unfortunately, even with two extra conference games.

500 star points we get at least 6 in conference!
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In reply to IowaBear • 8:41a, 1/26/26
IowaBear said:
No, he's very obviously comparing bliss last season to the current season

Two posts earlier: " Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice."

If we end up sucking year after year like the days of Harry Miller and Dave Bliss, then I would agree. This is a one-year anamoly. It's rock bottom, not a norm or expectation like under Harry Miller and Dave Bliss.

Every great program has its peaks and valleys. If CSD puts 2 or 3 years together like this, then we would be talking about needing a new voice and a new coach. Until then the Dave Bliss and Kevin Steele comparisons are as absurd as they are insulting.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 9:45a, 1/26/26
Is this season really an anomaly though? That's the question that needs asked. Or is it a culmination of where the program has been steadily heading? I know some don't want to acknowledge it. But the program has sharply declined every season the last 4 years and there's a multitude of reasons why we've gotten to this point. Maybe Drew turns it around. But that's going to require a hard look in the mirror. I'm not sure there's any reasons yet to suggest Baylor is going to magically do a 180 between now and next season. CSD gets a few mulligans but this one is multiple years in the making.
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9:48a, 1/26/26
1 year anomaly???? We are on the downward trend for the last 3 years....with a complete rebuild needed to occur again next year.
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In reply to BluesBear • 10:19a, 1/26/26
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1 year anomaly???? We are on the downward trend for the last 3 years....with a complete rebuild needed to occur again next year.

Scott Drew's teams have made it to at least the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament 6 straight seasons prior to this season.

Since the 2007-2008 season we have missed the postseason (NIT or NCAA) only once. Twice if you include the Covid-shortened season.

Yes, this is a one year anomaly.

Respectfully, get a clue.

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In reply to TWD 1974 • 11:44a, 1/26/26
TWD 1974 said:
bear2be2 said:
Mitch Henessey said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.

Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.

I agree with the 2-year window: I can't see Drew staying beyond that if it's not turning around. As to comparisons with the Bliss era, though, the Dave Bliss era never produced a 20-win season, or a post season win of any kind, or anything close to .500 in the Big 12. His best conference win total was 6. While we look upon last year's team as a downturn, the 10 conference wins, and 20-15, record, if compared to results prior to Drew, would be the best year since the Iba big year 40 years ago.

We aren't talking about individual seasons. We're talking about trendlines, trajectories. Since the natty, those are downward, and picking up speed. Football is worse. The occasional exceptions are straws we cling to.

Women's BB is the lone bright spot among major BU sports, though we have yet to see how bright as the season (which I'm happy with at this point) unfolds.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 12:26p, 1/26/26
Crawfoso1973 said:
IowaBear said:
No, he's very obviously comparing bliss last season to the current season

Two posts earlier: " Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice."

If we end up sucking year after year like the days of Harry Miller and Dave Bliss, then I would agree. This is a one-year anamoly. It's rock bottom, not a norm or expectation like under Harry Miller and Dave Bliss.

Every great program has its peaks and valleys. If CSD puts 2 or 3 years together like this, then we would be talking about needing a new voice and a new coach. Until then the Dave Bliss and Kevin Steele comparisons are as absurd as they are insulting.

It's not a one-year anomaly. Last year's team had all the same problems this one does. It was just talented enough at two or three spots to sort of overcome them. Instead of being terrible, that team was thoroughly mediocre, which is still not something worth celebrating.

I'm pretty obviously talking about trajectory here. And the trajectory of this program sucks. Making excuses about it or choosing denial doesn't make it better.

And until I hear -- or more importantly see -- a plan for getting off this treadmill to irrelevancy, I'm not going to assume things are just magically going to improve with a whole new roster next year.
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12:27p, 1/26/26
With next year's team rolling out a maximum of 900 returning minutes, it is basically another total rebuild. Not much will change until the team is annually returning 2500ish minutes.

Ugly truth but still the truth. Starting from scratch is ugly and we are stuck in a rut of annual total rebuilds.

And B12 is unforgiving of limited length and athleticism and we seem to be specializing in both.
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In reply to TWD 1974 • 12:37p, 1/26/26
TWD 1974 said:
bear2be2 said:
TWD 1974 said:
bear2be2 said:
Mitch Henessey said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.

Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.

I agree with the 2-year window: I can't see Drew staying beyond that if it's not turning around. As to comparisons with the Bliss era, though, the Dave Bliss era never produced a 20-win season, or a post season win of any kind, or anything close to .500 in the Big 12. His best conference win total was 6. While we look upon last year's team as a downturn, the 10 conference wins, and 20-15, record, if compared to results prior to Drew, would be the best year since the Iba big year 40 years ago.

Bliss made the NIT in 2000-01. We won 19 games that year -- six in the Big 12.

I don't think we'll hit either of those marks this season, unfortunately, even with two extra conference games.

500 star points we get at least 6 in conference!

This team has been dominated by TCU twice this year -- including once at home. If we can't compete with them, the list of Big 12 teams we can beat is a very short one.

It's basically Utah, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, Arizona State, Colorado and maybe West Virginia or UCF (for matchup reasons). And we'd have to win five of those seven or eight games to get to six wins. I don't see that happening.
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12:49p, 1/26/26
Rataj being more consistent would help...but I think the issues go deeper than one player.

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In reply to boognish_bear • 12:56p, 1/26/26
boognish_bear said:
Rataj being more consistent would help...but I think the issues go deeper than one player.


Yeah, those kinds of selective stats are dumb.

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In reply to Robert Wilson • 12:59p, 1/26/26
Robert Wilson said:
boognish_bear said:
Rataj being more consistent would help...but I think the issues go deeper than one player.


Yeah, those kinds of selective stats are dumb.

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

The litany of ifs, ands, or buts rolls on..................
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:01p, 1/26/26
Crawfoso1973 said:
BluesBear said:
1 year anomaly???? We are on the downward trend for the last 3 years....with a complete rebuild needed to occur again next year.

Scott Drew's teams have made it to at least the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament 6 straight seasons prior to this season.

Since the 2007-2008 season we have missed the postseason (NIT or NCAA) only once. Twice if you include the Covid-shortened season.

Yes, this is a one year anomaly.


Respectfully, get a clue.




Whoa. Simmer down and don't get a stroke. Our record is on a downward trend and our performance in NCAA is 2nd round exit.
1 seed in 2022 - lost in second round
3 seed in 2023 - lost in second round
3 seed in 2024 - lost in second round
9 seed in 2025 - lost in second round
Failed to qualify in 2026.

I would be willing to bet that Baylor doesn't make the tourney in 2027. Got $100. You in.

Drew has to retool an entire new team. Still same poor defensive mindset. Same results expected.
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1:18p, 1/26/26
Good ol days

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In reply to BluesBear • 2:43p, 1/26/26
We earned a top 3 seed three years in a row and that is viewed as a failure?

And in CSD's first season to miss the postseason since 2010 and he is compared to Dave Bliss.

Tough crowd.
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In reply to Adriacus Peratuun • 2:50p, 1/26/26
Adriacus Peratuun said:
With next year's team rolling out a maximum of 900 returning minutes, it is basically another total rebuild. Not much will change until the team is annually returning 2500ish minutes.

Ugly truth but still the truth. Starting from scratch is ugly and we are stuck in a rut of annual total rebuilds.

And B12 is unforgiving of limited length and athleticism and we seem to be specializing in both.

I am hoping CSD gets guys willing to stick around a couple of years. Guys with the raw athleticism to compete in this conference and willing to develop skill over a 2 or 3 year period. I would be willing to miss the tournament another year if that meant a plan in place to find and develop a core group of young players to build around, instead of another bandaid approach. We haven't been able to figure out how to do this in the transfer portal era and I am starting to doubt our ability to evaluate talent and fit.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 2:56p, 1/26/26
bear2be2 said:
Crawfoso1973 said:
IowaBear said:
No, he's very obviously comparing bliss last season to the current season

Two posts earlier: " Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice."

If we end up sucking year after year like the days of Harry Miller and Dave Bliss, then I would agree. This is a one-year anamoly. It's rock bottom, not a norm or expectation like under Harry Miller and Dave Bliss.

Every great program has its peaks and valleys. If CSD puts 2 or 3 years together like this, then we would be talking about needing a new voice and a new coach. Until then the Dave Bliss and Kevin Steele comparisons are as absurd as they are insulting.

It's not a one-year anomaly. Last year's team had all the same problems this one does. It was just talented enough at two or three spots to sort of overcome them. Instead of being terrible, that team was thoroughly mediocre, which is still not something worth celebrating.

I'm pretty obviously talking about trajectory here. And the trajectory of this program sucks. Making excuses about it or choosing denial doesn't make it better.

And until I hear -- or more importantly see -- a plan for getting off this treadmill to irrelevancy, I'm not going to assume things are just magically going to improve with a whole new roster next year.

It will depend on the kind of roster he chooses to put together. A bandaid approach with a bunch of senior and graduate tranfers? Omier aside, that approach has failed miserably over the past 2 years. I would love to see us find more hungry, athletic players like Isaac Williams who we can develop over a 2 or 3 year period as opposed to the next Roach or Rataj. I would be legit excited about our roster and our program even if we missed the tournament against next year with a player development plan in place and a logical roster construction. Sadly I am starting to doubt our ability to recruit and find the right kind of talent in the transfer portal era.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 3:15p, 1/26/26
bear2be2 said:
TWD 1974 said:
bear2be2 said:
Mitch Henessey said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
bear2be2 said:
Ewalker80 said:
CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.

Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.

I agree with the 2-year window: I can't see Drew staying beyond that if it's not turning around. As to comparisons with the Bliss era, though, the Dave Bliss era never produced a 20-win season, or a post season win of any kind, or anything close to .500 in the Big 12. His best conference win total was 6. While we look upon last year's team as a downturn, the 10 conference wins, and 20-15, record, if compared to results prior to Drew, would be the best year since the Iba big year 40 years ago.

Bliss made the NIT in 2000-01. We won 19 games that year -- six in the Big 12.

I don't think we'll hit either of those marks this season, unfortunately, even with two extra conference games.

The Terry Black days. Still remember that home win over Kansas. I think that was the year.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 3:20p, 1/26/26
Crawfoso1973 said:
We earned a top 3 seed three years in a row and that is viewed as a failure?

And in CSD's first season to miss the postseason since 2010 and he is compared to Dave Bliss.

Tough crowd.

I never compared him to Dave Bliss. My stance is no coach is above Baylor. When people start saying that Drew has a job for life - - that doesn't sit well.

Yup. 3 seed and bounced 3x in a row in the second round - - - you see that as success, I see that as failure.

I would expect more from a coach making $5M a year.....a really down year would be .500 in conference, not the chance to finish at the bottom of the barrel and have a losing record.

We had 13 guys on roster but have a rotation of 7/8....???? We are D1 - P4 school....can't find 13 quality players for the squad?
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In reply to BluesBear • 3:29p, 1/26/26
BluesBear said:
Crawfoso1973 said:
We earned a top 3 seed three years in a row and that is viewed as a failure?

And in CSD's first season to miss the postseason since 2010 and he is compared to Dave Bliss.

Tough crowd.

I never compared him to Dave Bliss. My stance is no coach is above Baylor. When people start saying that Drew has a job for life - - that doesn't sit well.

Yup. 3 seed and bounced 3x in a row in the second round - - - you see that as success, I see that as failure.

I would expect more from a coach making $5M a year.....a really down year would be .500 in conference, not the chance to finish at the bottom of the barrel and have a losing record.

We had 13 guys on roster but have a rotation of 7/8....???? We are D1 - P4 school....can't find 13 quality players for the squad?


More what explains this before. If you pay 10 players instead of 9 you don't get as good of players. We have 3 basically season ending injuries to this team or the depth would be fine. Reasons one and two for this season are the rob wright tampering. Reason three is bodo bodo plus Perez plus white injuries.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 4:20p, 1/26/26
Crawfoso1973 said:
We earned a top 3 seed three years in a row and that is viewed as a failure?

And in CSD's first season to miss the postseason since 2010 and he is compared to Dave Bliss.

Tough crowd.

The 2021-22 team was elite and ran into bad injury luck/a brutal second-round opponent, but each of the next two teams had better resumes than teams and ended up way overseeded as a result.

Those teams losing in the second round was the least surprising ever.

And sadly, those teams were the high water mark of what we've seen the last four years. It's been headed straight downward since.
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In reply to BluesBear • 4:25p, 1/26/26
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Crawfoso1973 said:
We earned a top 3 seed three years in a row and that is viewed as a failure?

And in CSD's first season to miss the postseason since 2010 and he is compared to Dave Bliss.

Tough crowd.

I never compared him to Dave Bliss. My stance is no coach is above Baylor. When people start saying that Drew has a job for life - - that doesn't sit well.

Yup. 3 seed and bounced 3x in a row in the second round - - - you see that as success, I see that as failure.

I would expect more from a coach making $5M a year.....a really down year would be .500 in conference, not the chance to finish at the bottom of the barrel and have a losing record.

We had 13 guys on roster but have a rotation of 7/8....???? We are D1 - P4 school....can't find 13 quality players for the squad?

No one is comparing Scott Drew to Dave Bliss.

We're comparing the current results to those results. And nothing anyone can possibly do to spin what we're currently watching will make this season significantly better than those we experienced before Drew.

That was the point. If we're back to that level -- and I'll give him two more years of runway to prove we're not before I actually jump on the "fire him" train -- then all this talk about what we'd be losing by firing Drew is nonsense. He'll have given us some awesome memories and deserve full credit and respect for that, but he'll be leaving the program in the same state he found it -- minus the scandal, of course (which is no small thing).
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4:46p, 1/26/26
All Can Be True:

Drew's coaching staff has been gutted over the past few years as assistants get HC jobs.
The program faced a larger than normal % of key injuries.
The conference has gotten tougher.
The program has done a poor job adjusting to the NIL environment.
CSD has/had a weird fixation with the dribble weave.
Conference Opponents are much better at defending ISO O.
CSD remains a top program builder but hit a dry stretch in evolving.
Baylor isn't hiring a better HC if CSD leaves under bad terms.
Transfer Portal evaluation has recently been really poor.
The program keeps paying up for players that are skilled but lack B12 level athleticism.
The 5 Star recruit evaluation is great on O but a mixed bag on D.
Drew recognizes high school talent at a very high level.
Player development isn't what it was. Constant turnover doesn't help.
Constant mass turnover is a problem.
Returning less than 10% of playing minutes is disastrous. Continuity matters.
No one can coach motor. Culture matters.
Baylor won a NC convincingly with Thamba, young EJ, and Vital all playing key roles despite being offensively limited.
Our highest motor player this season wouldn't be a Top Four motor player on the NC team.
CSD seems to be missing a Bad Cop assistant to balance his Good Cop persona.
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In reply to Adriacus Peratuun • 4:51p, 1/26/26
Top 5 post of all time.
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In reply to Adriacus Peratuun • 8:16p, 1/26/26
Can't speak reason to these fair weather fans. The real ones get it.
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8:26p, 1/26/26
What fair weather fans? Quit making crap up. Everyone on here is a Baylor fan. You can be critical of the program and still be a fan. Pretty clear posters throwing the phrase fair weather fan around have zero clue what it actually means
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In reply to IowaBear • 8:33p, 1/26/26
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What fair weather fans? Quit making crap up. Everyone on here is a Baylor fan. You can be critical of the program and still be a fan. Pretty clear posters throwing the phrase fair weather fan around have zero clue what it actually means

No one who is still paying attention to this year's team is a fair weather fan. The weather hasn't been fair around here since the Memphis loss, and the forecast looks pretty ****ty through March.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:42p, 1/26/26
Yup, the moment I left Memphis I knew this team was going to suck out loud.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 8:56p, 1/26/26
Crawfoso1973 said:
We earned a top 3 seed three years in a row and that is viewed as a failure?

And in CSD's first season to miss the postseason since 2010 and he is compared to Dave Bliss.

Tough crowd.

You know the game Craw. Its the quality of ball.. hasn't been very good in a long time. They haven't played a complete game against a top level opponent in many, many years. All of the top half of this league has at least one in the last year.

Defense has been terrible for years. Offense has struggled against the very top tier (some exceptions). I wouldn't go as far as to call it a complete failure. But it has been a real dissapointment.
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In reply to IowaBear • 7:16a, 1/27/26
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Yup, the moment I left Memphis I knew this team was going to suck out loud.
That was the game that did it for me too. Any illusions I had of this team doing anything substantial were crushed there.

I didn't think things would get this bad, though.
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11:08p, 1/27/26
Win Loss Record against ranked opponents...

22-23 Season | 5-4
23-24 Season | 5-5
24-25 Season | 3-10
25-26 Season | 0-4 (with 5 remaining games against currently ranked opponents)

That is a 13-23 record against ranked opponents...

$17.5M in salary collected over this same period ($1.4m salary bump after 22-23 season). No details on additional incentives (which we know exist)

We can speculate all we want as the reasons for the lack of consistency and competitiveness of this team but I guess my standards are higher for the 8th highest paid coach in D1 Basketball...

Put forth a strategy and communicate it....Nnaji - 74 minutes played...2 blocks. What did that cost ???
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Put forth a strategy and communicate it....Nnaji - 74 minutes played...2 blocks. What did that cost ???

Nnaji and Williams could be building blocks for the next 2 years if the plan is to bring them back and bring in other players willing to stick around and grow in the program over a 2 or 3 year period. I am not complaining about Nnaji's lack of immediate production if that is the plan in place for him.
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