Tourney Talk

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Mitch Henessey
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Big12Fan2024 said:



Brick one falls. Flemings and Cenac, the other 5 stars, to the NBA draft are next. Get ready, Kelvin. You veered away from your traditional recruiting model and now you're about to find out how other schools have been forced to adjust rosters.

"Well-proportioned" makes him sound like a house. "You'll love the layout on this new build, Isiah Harwell-style home!"
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boognish_bear
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Quinton
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I'm surprised, Mitch finally called it. Took forever, this is the first real transfer loss they've had since the transfer to Texas. The kid last year to NC State wasn't developing.

Sampson held the line longer than anyone else. Someone needs to throw big $ at Tugler now. He can't get anything more out of the program..needs offensive development they can't give him.
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Sports writer from Tucson

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Fre3dombear
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LTBear19 said:

Fre3dombear said:

Biggest duke tourney collapse ever? Wow


This one was bad, no doubt.

But last year's Final 4 game took the cake.

Yesterday's outcome ultimately came down to one bad play by a single player.

Despite the loss, it was only in the Elite 8, meaning Duke still had 2 more hurdles to overcome. And with the way they were playing, I doubt they would have cleared both.

Last year was a choke for the ages, however. And the whole team got in on the act.

Houston had ZERO business winning that game. They were down 6 with less than a minute to go, Duke had the ball, and the game was basically over.

About 7-8 things needed to go Houston's way in that final minute for them to pull off that miracle.

Duke Miss at Rim
Sharpe 3 After Stumbling to the Ground
Duke Turnover on Inbounds
Houston Putback Dunk
Duke Misses 1 and 1
Flagg Over the Back Foul on Roberts
Roberts Making Both Free Throws of 1 and 1 (He was Like 60% or so from the Stripe)
Flagg Mid-Range Jumper Miss

If any of those things go the other way, Houston loses.

Plus, Duke would have been huge favorites to beat Florida and win the whole thing.

So for as bad as yesterday was, last year's game was probably as painful as it gets.


This most recent choke by duke was literally Kevin Steele Baylor (and now arandaesque)
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Barf

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Was kind of looking like UConn had it on cruise control… But Illinois is making it interesting now
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My annual plea to the Big 12 Presidents and Brett Yormark if they truly want to this conference to continue -- GO GET UCONN, the last school with any value that can drive media attention and media rights with both MBB and WBB. Who cares what they provide for football. Big 12 is gonna be 2nd tier in football regardless. At least be 1st tier and seal the crowning point in the best conference label every year in basketball while also gaining the most important media market in the country.
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Wildcats starting out ice cold
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This is the first time all year I've seen Arizona looked overwhelmed. I'm sure they'll settle down and start hitting some shots soon.
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Arizona averaged only 10 TOs a game this year. They have 7 in the first 8 minutes of this game. Jaden Bradley is completely out of sync. That is not a good sign.
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Big12Fan2024
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Finally. Some life out of Arizona. Ball movement is much better.
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Wildcats have a pulse
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Bradley's used his right arm all year long to create space on his dribble drives. They just didn't call it in Big 12 games. Tonight they're calling it and he already has 3 fouls in the first half.
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Michigan's size is in Arizona's head. Arizona is rushing and missing short shots they hit all year along against shorter Big 12 teams.
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The difference between the very average Elliot Cadeau I watched at UNC versus this version is staggering.
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They are getting their ass handed to them. Thought this one would be close and entertaining.

Wildcats gonna need to figure something out in the locker room.
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Arizona has been horrible on put backs
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This is Baylor - Houston semi-final from 2021. This game is over at the half. Arizona may chip away and get it closer but they have no response for Michigan's size. They are completely intimidated. Kinda embarrassing the team who won the Big 12 handily is getting routed this badly. In basketball even the best teams have a game here or there where they underperform and it looks like Arizona picked the wrong time to have their's. Makes me appreciate even more how we manhandled teams on the way to our Natty.
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Quinton
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Big12Fan2024 said:

Michigan's size is in Arizona's head. Arizona is rushing and missing short shots they hit all year along against shorter Big 12 teams.


Yep, Illinois v Houston repeat on steroids with a better team. Michigan would be up 30 if Yaxel was healthy
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Completely running them off the court.
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boognish_bear said:

IowaBear said:

Who does everyone have winning their bracket ? I wound up with Houston


I ended up very B12 biased and have Duke, Az, UH, and ISU in the FF...and Az beating Duke in the final.

Joshua injury not gonna help that ISU run.


I regret my B12 bias
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I realize a couple of the teams were missing key players (ISU, Tech), but few people are gonna remember that 3 months from now. The Big 12 is probably gonna take a reputational hickey for performance in this tournament.

Arizona (losing by 20+ points right now)
Tech blown out by 25
ISU lost by 14
Houston lost by 10

The 4 best programs in the conference all getting eliminated by double digits. Yikes!


Kansas, TCU and BYU didn't make it past the first weekend (although none were expected to make it)


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Quinton
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Big12Fan2024 said:

I realize a couple of the teams were missing key players (ISU, Tech), but few people are gonna remember that 3 months from now. The Big 12 is probably gonna take a reputational hickey for performance in this tournament.

Arizona (losing by 20+ points right now)
Tech blown out by 25
ISU lost by 14
Houston lost by 10

The 4 best programs in the conference all getting eliminated by double digits. Yikes!


Kansas, TCU and BYU didn't make it past the first weekend (although none were expected to make it)




The "Big 12 physicality" narrative is a bit overblown imo. Houston and Iowa play like maniacs.. true. But Arizona was the most physically dominant team this year -- and they got manhandled last night.

There are teams that can match the physicality of the league. Big 12 teams overwhelm lesser talented opponents with ridiculous effort, but when that physicality is matched, they often struggle to get over the hump.
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UConn is getting hosed with foul calls that aren't going both ways.

Michigan looks like Land of the Giants.
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Been a good one so far
Big12Fan2024
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Anyone who doesn't think coaching and development still matter in the era of the transfer portal should look no further (or is it farther) than Mara of Michigan. He looked awful at UCLA under Cronin. He's turned into a good basketball player at Michigan under May and his staff.
Big12Fan2024
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UConn's back-up center is not ready for a game like this. He's getting completely dominated. Reed is gonna have to play or UConn is done.
 
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