They also lost to Northern Kentucky with their best players. And are playing tonight tonight without one of their best players. I get that they're better than their record shows, but if we're truly a Top 5 team (30+ win expectation would mean we are Top 5), we need to house a team like this.
Gotta be honest. This team not at all what I expected
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it's a long season but we don't look like a 30 win team right now. Let's win this one and see how we look against Villanova, Arizona and Butler before we hit the panic button. Villanova looked like trash against Ohio State and now they look pretty dang good.
Forgive me if I am not all that worried right now. How many times over the years have we seen people hit the panic button only to have Drew's teams kick into high gear in January and February.Ashley Hodge said:
it's a long season but we don't look like a 30 win team right now. Let's win this one and see how we look against Villanova, Arizona and Butler before we hit the panic button. Villanova looked like trash against Ohio State and now they look pretty dang good.
Oh, I'm by no means worried. You guys know me, I'm one of the guys preaching patience every year on the bball boards (bearAZfan on bfans). I just think the preseason hype was a bit much, and it was promulgated by some of the staff at this site.BaylorOkie said:Forgive me if I am not all that worried right now. How many times over the years have we seen people hit the panic button only to have Drew's teams kick into high gear in January and February.Ashley Hodge said:
it's a long season but we don't look like a 30 win team right now. Let's win this one and see how we look against Villanova, Arizona and Butler before we hit the panic button. Villanova looked like trash against Ohio State and now they look pretty dang good.
I think we're very much a Sweet 16 team, by the way. But we have a lot of work to do to get there.
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Tristan has to play like he was playing in January 2019 for us to be a Final 4 caliber team... there is no doubt about that. Mayer also has to be a key player making up for some of the things that we will miss with Mario gone. Both Tristan and Mayer have a lot of rust due to not practicing until September.. they are 3-4 months behind other guys in that regard.Mitch Henessey said:Oh, I'm by no means worried. You guys know me, I'm one of the guys preaching patience every year on the bball boards (bearAZfan on bfans). I just think the preseason hype was a bit much, and it was promulgated by some of the staff at this site.BaylorOkie said:Forgive me if I am not all that worried right now. How many times over the years have we seen people hit the panic button only to have Drew's teams kick into high gear in January and February.Ashley Hodge said:
it's a long season but we don't look like a 30 win team right now. Let's win this one and see how we look against Villanova, Arizona and Butler before we hit the panic button. Villanova looked like trash against Ohio State and now they look pretty dang good.
I think we're very much a Sweet 16 team, by the way. But we have a lot of work to do to get there.
This team might score 100 one night and 55 the next because they are so 3 point shot dependent.
I like this team a lot. Drive and kick. Drive and dunk. Drive. Drive.
And play in your face man to man defense.
This team is playing anew style. Give them time. They are going to embarrass some Big 12 teams.
I like this team a lot. Drive and kick. Drive and dunk. Drive. Drive.
And play in your face man to man defense.
This team is playing anew style. Give them time. They are going to embarrass some Big 12 teams.
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Very disappointing thus far
Drew's teams always improved over the season but so far
Woooooooooofff
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!!
Retreat Hell! We just got here! The 2/5
Jerrells/Dugat/Tweety/Bruce team was the last time we had something like this. Over a decade of length and I've forgotten how this style feels. You worry the bigs get forgotten with stretch, dribble, drive but they'll find a balance. It's the defensive prowess that's most exciting. Eliminate that last 4 minutes of the half and first 4 of the second and it was pretty suffocating. Tomorrow will tell us a lot.GruntTuff said:
This team might score 100 one night and 55 the next because they are so 3 point shot dependent.
I like this team a lot. Drive and kick. Drive and dunk. Drive. Drive.
And play in your face man to man defense.
This team is playing anew style. Give them time. They are going to embarrass some Big 12 teams.
That just doesn't always happen. There's a lot more parity in men's basketball.Mitch Henessey said:
They also lost to Northern Kentucky with their best players. And are playing tonight tonight without one of their best players. I get that they're better than their record shows, but if we're truly a Top 5 team (30+ win expectation would mean we are Top 5), we need to house a team like this.
I just hope our team doesn't need a buzzer beater to beat Hartford.Mitch Henessey said:
Yeah, but when the site's mods are pimping this team and saying the O/U is 30 wins... it's gonna increase the expectations.
When you increase the expectations like that, struggling against an exceedingly mediocre Coastal Carolina is a very bad look.
Oh wait, that was our 2009-2010 team that went to the Elite Eight, was a hair away from going to the Final Four, and arguably the best team in Baylor basketball history.
I think we'll be ok.
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Crash Davis said:
I think we'll be ok.
That was a solid win that will only look better as the season wears on. Love the guards on this squad.
Great win today! Excited to continue to see this team develop and progress.
Yeah, let's keep bumping this thread.
WOOOOOFFFF!
WOOOOOFFFF!
CSD, your girlfriend ... woof
I haven't watched the entire game yet (hopefully later today), but what I saw of the Villanova game was very encouraging. Matt seems much better compared to last year. The whole team seems to be working very well together and competing at a high level. No doubt I missed some of the miscues but I also know that Coach Drew & his staff are capable of developing this team. They might actually be able to get to the Final Four. I'm looking forward to more great games.
Overall the Nova game was well played, with limited turnovers. CSD switched to zone and it really frustrates the Nova guards as it took away their drives to the lane.
I thought we were "over helping" on defense on occasion. What I mean by that is our denial or help defenders were sucking in too much on drives. We were basically trading a tough 2 and giving them open threes.
One example was the ball went to the high post and the on ball defender wasn't beat (IIRC) but Mayer totally sold out and turned his back to his man and went to help. You never double from ball side - boom open three from the wing.
On the other hand I was impressed with our OB ball defense for the most part. Especially Vital. Watching Vital compete and go all out on defense brings me immense joy. So glad he chose us - and his FT shooting is coming along. His technique is there and that 63% is bound to get to 70 by end of season.
I thought we were "over helping" on defense on occasion. What I mean by that is our denial or help defenders were sucking in too much on drives. We were basically trading a tough 2 and giving them open threes.
One example was the ball went to the high post and the on ball defender wasn't beat (IIRC) but Mayer totally sold out and turned his back to his man and went to help. You never double from ball side - boom open three from the wing.
On the other hand I was impressed with our OB ball defense for the most part. Especially Vital. Watching Vital compete and go all out on defense brings me immense joy. So glad he chose us - and his FT shooting is coming along. His technique is there and that 63% is bound to get to 70 by end of season.
Just finished watching. What a great game!
Butler earned the MVP.
Butler earned the MVP.
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really everyone played well but I thought Macio Teague did a few savvy veteran things that slipped past my attention live. For example drawing (selling) a foul at 77-73 on a screen that resulted in free throws (and he's 90% when he gets there).historian said:
Just finished watching. What a great game!
Butler earned the MVP.
We'll win a lot of games only turning it over 5 times
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
Butler was and is da man
Don't ever underestimate Scott Drew
Posts like this are fine, as long as the poster comes back with a "hey I was wrong!", or "proud of this team", or "I'll eventually learn not to doubt this team", or "one game does not a season make!", or something else a little more positive..Baylor3216 said:
Very disappointing thus far
Drew's teams always improved over the season but so far
Woooooooooofff
But complainers usually are nowhere to be found when there are compliments to be handed out.
I'm still not over the charge called on Acy against Zubek in the Duke game.
Me? I didn't have us going undefeated.
SFA just won at Duke.
College BBall be crazy
College BBall be crazy
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
SFA just won at Duke.
College BBall be crazy
That Duke coach must really suck
boognish_bear said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
SFA just won at Duke.
College BBall be crazy
That Duke coach must really suck
He does in many ways, most not associated with coaching the game of basketball.
rudylaw said:boognish_bear said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
SFA just won at Duke.
College BBall be crazy
That Duke coach must really suck
He does in many ways, most not associated with coaching the game of basketball.
Wow, not the point we're making.
EvilTroyAndAbed said:rudylaw said:boognish_bear said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:
SFA just won at Duke.
College BBall be crazy
That Duke coach must really suck
He does in many ways, most not associated with coaching the game of basketball.
Wow, not the point we're making.
Oh gee, really? You mean the point that's been beaten to death Drew's whole career? You're never going to solve that one. His detractors will always be detractors.
I do not understand the Drew haters: why are they still out there? Why do the humiliate themselves by talking trash about the most successful coach we've ever had?
Without a doubt, Coach Drew is the best chance we have to get to the Final Four anytime soon. I doubt any of his detractors will deliver mea culpas if he does. I wonder how many of them are cow trolls.
Without a doubt, Coach Drew is the best chance we have to get to the Final Four anytime soon. I doubt any of his detractors will deliver mea culpas if he does. I wonder how many of them are cow trolls.
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Baylor is a tremendous job especially with the new arena. But Drew should absolutely be here until he wants to retire as long as his competitive fire still burns. He runs a great program and he's getting better every year. The best days are ahead and I believe they will include conference championships, final 4s and national championships. This new arena is going to be a game-changer in terms of perception and enthusiasm for the program going forward. The path towards sustained excellence is winning 85%+ of your home games. Drew has already proved he can win on the road at a high rate and also win at neutral sites. Start winning 85% plus at home and we get #1 and #2 seeds in the tourney. And you are far more likely to get to a Final 4 when you get a #1 and #2 seed.historian said:
I do not understand the Drew haters: why are they still out there? Why do the humiliate themselves by talking trash about the most successful coach we've ever had?
Without a doubt, Coach Drew is the best chance we have to get to the Final Four anytime soon. I doubt any of his detractors will deliver mea culpas if he does. I wonder how many of them are cow trolls.
I eagerly await the day when Baylor gets a win in Lawrence. I believe it is coming soon, maybe as early as 2020.
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