Only one more season 22-23 of the Kim bad Kim left the pantry empty. Looking forward to what Nicki brings in and how it plays out.lookin4awin said:
20th verse, same as the 1st..For us old folk, it's like that Herman's Hermits song, Henry the Eight I am
KM BAD, KM LEAVE PANTRY EMPTY, KIM BAD, KIM REAL BAD, CNC DID GREAT; CNC WILL DO BETTER WITH HER OWN PLAYERS-KM BAD-KM NEEDED TO GO. i UNDERSTAND-YOU DON'T-KM BAD,
Second verse, same as the First
YAWN, exhausting. next subject.
Mulkeyists, their Selective Memory, & their Revisionist History
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And I fully support CNC in everything she does, and I think she is going to do great things...I just want some offseason peace and quiet without bringing up the ghost of KM on a regular basis. This has gone on the entire season.
The best way to stop the infighting is to get all of the CenTex Luby's to start using microwaves at 4:30 p.m. every day.
Agree but good luck with that.lookin4awin said:
And I fully support CNC in everything she does, and I think she is going to do great things...I just want some offseason peace and quiet without bringing up the ghost of KM on a regular basis. This has gone on the entire season.
You're the same ageAdriacus Peratuun said:SMH……how many Baylor games did you attend at the HOT Horse Barn? I was Baylor long before you.Osodecentx said:I've wondered if AP is a UT plant posting here to sow dissensionbaylor1984 said:So when can they be fairly evaluated ? After the 22-23 season ? After the 23-24 season ? After the 24-25 season ? Just want to know when it's okay and it'll stop being all KM fault.Adriacus Peratuun said:
LMFAO. When the Mulkey Army attacks the new staff and someone dares to point out the myriad of issues inherited, overcome, and continuing for the new staff……….the new talking point is "you are harming CNC".
Again, LMFAO.
The new staff inherited 7 players. Fact.
1 sophomore, 1 junior, & the remainder were seniors or COVID super seniors. Fact.
Simply having healthy bodies to practice & play was an endeavor. Fact.
The new staff performed admirably achieving a B12 regular season title. Fact.
Recognizing indisputable facts is being realistic. Acknowledging the hurdles overcome/being faced isn't an attack. The only attack is what has been done to the current staff.
The new staff can never be fairly evaluated and recognized until the true state of the program they inherited is accepted. Despite on court success, the then existing off court issues in recruiting, athletic department cohesion, etc. were significant. The new staff has done an admirable job given what they inherited. Those realities aren't attacks. They are acknowledgments.
I am 64 that's old...Brian Ethridge said:You're the same ageAdriacus Peratuun said:SMH……how many Baylor games did you attend at the HOT Horse Barn? I was Baylor long before you.Osodecentx said:I've wondered if AP is a UT plant posting here to sow dissensionbaylor1984 said:So when can they be fairly evaluated ? After the 22-23 season ? After the 23-24 season ? After the 24-25 season ? Just want to know when it's okay and it'll stop being all KM fault.Adriacus Peratuun said:
LMFAO. When the Mulkey Army attacks the new staff and someone dares to point out the myriad of issues inherited, overcome, and continuing for the new staff……….the new talking point is "you are harming CNC".
Again, LMFAO.
The new staff inherited 7 players. Fact.
1 sophomore, 1 junior, & the remainder were seniors or COVID super seniors. Fact.
Simply having healthy bodies to practice & play was an endeavor. Fact.
The new staff performed admirably achieving a B12 regular season title. Fact.
Recognizing indisputable facts is being realistic. Acknowledging the hurdles overcome/being faced isn't an attack. The only attack is what has been done to the current staff.
The new staff can never be fairly evaluated and recognized until the true state of the program they inherited is accepted. Despite on court success, the then existing off court issues in recruiting, athletic department cohesion, etc. were significant. The new staff has done an admirable job given what they inherited. Those realities aren't attacks. They are acknowledgments.
Now that's funny, I don't care who you areAdriacus Peratuun said:
The best way to stop the infighting is to get all of the CenTex Luby's to start using microwaves at 4:30 p.m. every day.
There is/was no cafeteria like Piccadilly!Adriacus Peratuun said:
The best way to stop the infighting is to get all of the CenTex Luby's to start using microwaves at 4:30 p.m. every day.
Amen! Even in the summer when the lake "turned over" and the water tasted like dead fish!Eball said:There is/was no cafeteria like Piccadilly!Adriacus Peratuun said:
The best way to stop the infighting is to get all of the CenTex Luby's to start using microwaves at 4:30 p.m. every day.
If anyone got Ice Cream at Baskin Robbins summers of 72-73 I probably served you! I was quite the big dipper!Lynnp550 said:Amen! Even in the summer when the lake "turned over" and the water tasted like dead fish!Eball said:There is/was no cafeteria like Piccadilly!Adriacus Peratuun said:
The best way to stop the infighting is to get all of the CenTex Luby's to start using microwaves at 4:30 p.m. every day.
Here I was thinking I'm old when I'm turning 30 this year
I saw every game The Microwave played at the HOT!Adriacus Peratuun said:SMH……how many Baylor games did you attend at the HOT Horse Barn? I was Baylor long before you.Osodecentx said:I've wondered if AP is a UT plant posting here to sow dissensionbaylor1984 said:So when can they be fairly evaluated ? After the 22-23 season ? After the 23-24 season ? After the 24-25 season ? Just want to know when it's okay and it'll stop being all KM fault.Adriacus Peratuun said:
LMFAO. When the Mulkey Army attacks the new staff and someone dares to point out the myriad of issues inherited, overcome, and continuing for the new staff……….the new talking point is "you are harming CNC".
Again, LMFAO.
The new staff inherited 7 players. Fact.
1 sophomore, 1 junior, & the remainder were seniors or COVID super seniors. Fact.
Simply having healthy bodies to practice & play was an endeavor. Fact.
The new staff performed admirably achieving a B12 regular season title. Fact.
Recognizing indisputable facts is being realistic. Acknowledging the hurdles overcome/being faced isn't an attack. The only attack is what has been done to the current staff.
The new staff can never be fairly evaluated and recognized until the true state of the program they inherited is accepted. Despite on court success, the then existing off court issues in recruiting, athletic department cohesion, etc. were significant. The new staff has done an admirable job given what they inherited. Those realities aren't attacks. They are acknowledgments.
Those were some memorable times - a guy in each corner and Vinny going against the zone by himself - and they could not stop him from scoring !lookin4awin said:I saw every game The Microwave played at the HOT!Adriacus Peratuun said:SMH……how many Baylor games did you attend at the HOT Horse Barn? I was Baylor long before you.Osodecentx said:I've wondered if AP is a UT plant posting here to sow dissensionbaylor1984 said:So when can they be fairly evaluated ? After the 22-23 season ? After the 23-24 season ? After the 24-25 season ? Just want to know when it's okay and it'll stop being all KM fault.Adriacus Peratuun said:
LMFAO. When the Mulkey Army attacks the new staff and someone dares to point out the myriad of issues inherited, overcome, and continuing for the new staff……….the new talking point is "you are harming CNC".
Again, LMFAO.
The new staff inherited 7 players. Fact.
1 sophomore, 1 junior, & the remainder were seniors or COVID super seniors. Fact.
Simply having healthy bodies to practice & play was an endeavor. Fact.
The new staff performed admirably achieving a B12 regular season title. Fact.
Recognizing indisputable facts is being realistic. Acknowledging the hurdles overcome/being faced isn't an attack. The only attack is what has been done to the current staff.
The new staff can never be fairly evaluated and recognized until the true state of the program they inherited is accepted. Despite on court success, the then existing off court issues in recruiting, athletic department cohesion, etc. were significant. The new staff has done an admirable job given what they inherited. Those realities aren't attacks. They are acknowledgments.
While HOT produced some solid basketball memories, the most memorable times for me were:
no power after the transformer was hit
the rat chasing the cat
the night the roof leaked and John Wheeler [yes, the one that cost Haller his job] entering the game only to go flying when his uncoordinated feet hit a puddle at half court
no power after the transformer was hit
the rat chasing the cat
the night the roof leaked and John Wheeler [yes, the one that cost Haller his job] entering the game only to go flying when his uncoordinated feet hit a puddle at half court
Did the women ever play games at the HOT? I remember going to women's games at Mars Mclean with my parents but never the HOT coliseum.
Well then you probably did. For 50+ years B-R and Jamoca Almond Fudge has been, is and will be my cocaine.Eball said:If anyone got Ice Cream at Baskin Robbins summers of 72-73 I probably served you! I was quite the big dipper!Lynnp550 said:Amen! Even in the summer when the lake "turned over" and the water tasted like dead fish!Eball said:There is/was no cafeteria like Piccadilly!Adriacus Peratuun said:
The best way to stop the infighting is to get all of the CenTex Luby's to start using microwaves at 4:30 p.m. every day.
Same for me! He could really light it up!
Blessed to have had he and Iron Mike during that time - two of the most successful Baylor athletes of all time.
Leslie's Chicken Shack and Lone Star Tavern in Bellmead...
Blessed to have had he and Iron Mike during that time - two of the most successful Baylor athletes of all time.
Leslie's Chicken Shack and Lone Star Tavern in Bellmead...
3rdgenbear said:
Same for me! He could really light it up!
Blessed to have had he and Iron Mike during that time - two of the most successful Baylor athletes of all time.
Leslie's Chicken Shack and Lone Star Tavern in Bellmead...
At Chicken Shack, it was all about the rolls...we'd order a piece of so-so chicken just to keep the rolls and butter coming.
I remember a WBB game at HOT against the Lady Longhorns.We had fewer than a hundred fans and they had over 1000.I think it was a double header game.
Yes, they played at the HOT until they moved into the Ferrell Center.
BUVA, you mentioned the butter with the rolls, but what about that honey. They put one of those long squeeze-out honey tubes on the table right by the catsup.
My group of friends went almost every Sunday night.
My group of friends went almost every Sunday night.
Yes, I played at the Barn. I am 80. Most memorable was Roy Wolfe's shot vs the horns. We won and that was the only loss the horns had in conference. It was the longest made shot in the history of BB at that time.
The first game played at the HOT Coliseum was in the Fall of 1954, Baylor beat Oklahoma (Baylor rarely lost to them in basketball back in those days), but when I reentered Baylor after a stint in the army, they were still playing in Rena Marrs McLean in 1956-57.
Gary Green and I sat together and watched Vinnie drop 50 on the 'Frogs, mostly 1 on 5.blueeyedbear said:Those were some memorable times - a guy in each corner and Vinny going against the zone by himself - and they could not stop him from scoring !lookin4awin said:I saw every game The Microwave played at the HOT!Adriacus Peratuun said:SMH……how many Baylor games did you attend at the HOT Horse Barn? I was Baylor long before you.Osodecentx said:I've wondered if AP is a UT plant posting here to sow dissensionbaylor1984 said:So when can they be fairly evaluated ? After the 22-23 season ? After the 23-24 season ? After the 24-25 season ? Just want to know when it's okay and it'll stop being all KM fault.Adriacus Peratuun said:
LMFAO. When the Mulkey Army attacks the new staff and someone dares to point out the myriad of issues inherited, overcome, and continuing for the new staff……….the new talking point is "you are harming CNC".
Again, LMFAO.
The new staff inherited 7 players. Fact.
1 sophomore, 1 junior, & the remainder were seniors or COVID super seniors. Fact.
Simply having healthy bodies to practice & play was an endeavor. Fact.
The new staff performed admirably achieving a B12 regular season title. Fact.
Recognizing indisputable facts is being realistic. Acknowledging the hurdles overcome/being faced isn't an attack. The only attack is what has been done to the current staff.
The new staff can never be fairly evaluated and recognized until the true state of the program they inherited is accepted. Despite on court success, the then existing off court issues in recruiting, athletic department cohesion, etc. were significant. The new staff has done an admirable job given what they inherited. Those realities aren't attacks. They are acknowledgments.
I was at that game. He was tripled teamed and just rose up above everyone and shot.
lookin4awin said:
BUVA, you mentioned the butter with the rolls, but what about that honey. They put one of those long squeeze-out honey tubes on the table right by the catsup.
My group of friends went almost every Sunday night.
Duh...how could I forget?!
Care to revisit this hot mess?Adriacus Peratuun said:
With Baylor WBB winning the regular season B12 and reaching the finals in the B12 Tourney, the members of Team Mulkey are wiggling to explain themselves.
Reality: everything that the haters have been spewing since last Spring has been publicly proven to be utter nonsense. The Clan of the Clueless are trying to dance away from their idiotic positions but the internet is forever.
Reality: Coach Collen inherited a roster mess. She inherited 7 players and was able to obtain 2 more players at the late date. One of the inherited players was a complete malcontent. The staff succeeded anyway.
Reality: despite the limited numbers, the team was able to grow and thrive. despite the limited numbers, the staff was able to manage minutes in a workable manner.
Reality: Coach Collen inherited an incredibly undersized roster. Last year, the perimeter defenders were 6'1 Richards, 5'11 Carrington, and 5'6 Ursin (who could really jump). This year the perimeter defenders are 5'5, 5'5, and 5'6. None are great leapers. That lack of size causes defensive rotation issues, rebounding issues, and the rebounding issues impact the ability to create transition offense. The team nevertheless succeeded.
Reality: the staff was installing an entirely new style of offense. The new offense works. Allowing the posts players to catch the ball (1) on the move and (2) in space at the elbow, in the short corner, and at the mid post eliminates many of the constant double teams they faced last season. The idiots complaining about the O in December are rewriting history now.
Reality: the staff was installing a new defense, and it isn't the D they want to run. The roster is far too small to run the preferred Switch Everything Perimeter D. And if they ran Mulkey's switch nothing, go over every screen, soft show D……well that would be a disaster [still give up open 3s and wouldn't have any size on post help]. So the staff has done a nice job creating a Frankenstein D……sometimes over screens, sometimes under, sometimes switch. Sometime soft show, sometimes show, sometimes hedge, sometimes hard hedge. The team generally does a nice job making the right reads [Egbo continues to have issues].
Reality: Coach Collen has faced numerous hateful people in Waco. A Baylor coach going to lunch in Waco shouldn't have to listen to crap from the Angry Army of the former coach.
Reality: the staff obtained a Top 10 recruiting class is a super short window. The staff is fixing the damaged relationships with multiple summer programs left by Mulkey.
Reality: scheduling isn't easy when smaller schools who play for the $$$ are told that scheduling Baylor means that LSU is no longer an option. Spiteful nonsense.
Reality: one side honestly follows the term of the separation agreement, one doesn't. The term guardhouse lawyer comes to mind.
Reality: many of the "I was wrong about Coach Collen" crowd only admit their error in conclusion but conveniently ignore the false statements that their conclusions were built upon, ignore the personal attacks they made toward anyone whom disagreed with their nonsense, and ignore the false data that they cited.
Reality: the same people that make idiotic comments about this staff's game attire willingly ignored the garish choices of the past.
Reality: throughout the entire Baylor athletic department, the happy dance continues. Addition by subtraction. The new staff is a great bonus. Everyone rowing together in the same direction and liking the people around them is a solid change.
Reality: the changes aren't even one year into the process. Imagine the progress by year 3.
Reality: ask former players what they think. Ask other Baylor coaches what they think [privately]. Ask the Admin [privately] what they think. Ask the coaches of Summer programs what they think.
Reality: look at the budget position.
Reality: the Clueless Clan owes a ton of public apologies. And not basic "I was wrong" apologies but detailed "here are the hundreds of ways that I was wrong and acted like an ass towards folks that knew much more than me" apologies.
Get started.
Oh goody, this thread is back.
Too Funny. There are bad takes then there was this,
Everytime the team loses we have to discuss Mulkey who has been gone 3 years ….. Mulkey is a great coach but consider her current record at LSU is the same as Baylor's, 4 losses with 2 to unranked teams. Her team is full of stars and LSU talent is certainly superior to our team. I say this because in this era good and even great coaches are going to lose multiple games,
17 of the top 25 Wbb teams currently have 3 or more loses , 17 teams !!!
That being said, there are certainly areas our team can improve in and we desperately need a true post player . But as Blackie has said many times expectations of having success Kim had in early to mid 2000's isn't going happen, It wouldn't happen if Kim was still here.
Also if Nicki left Baylor I guarantee you she would have NO problem finding another college job
17 of the top 25 Wbb teams currently have 3 or more loses , 17 teams !!!
That being said, there are certainly areas our team can improve in and we desperately need a true post player . But as Blackie has said many times expectations of having success Kim had in early to mid 2000's isn't going happen, It wouldn't happen if Kim was still here.
Also if Nicki left Baylor I guarantee you she would have NO problem finding another college job
This is reality that some are finding hard to grasp.
NIL…transfer at will…etc. Very different landscape.
NIL…transfer at will…etc. Very different landscape.
Ttt
That and the ascendancy of Texas under Vic. Like it or not.BUatbirth said:
This is reality that some are finding hard to grasp.
NIL…transfer at will…etc. Very different landscape.
Uh…ok? I was making a general observation…Texas and Vic?
This discussion is not helpful and has become inconsequential. When we see attendance the rest of the home games this season and next, and season ticket renewals in the next couple of years it might be worth taking up again. The AD and ADMIN seem to be satisfied with the current state of the WBB program and especially CNC. Some have observed that she has the demeanor and attitude of a person with a solid commitment from Baylor.
We did not renew season tickets this year after many years due to questions about arena access, etc., and not program issues. But our interest level has dropped. We will continue to support all Baylor sports teams and attend as frequently as possible. Maybe Baylor WBB will be competitive among the elite teams again some day. I don't see that on the horizon.
We did not renew season tickets this year after many years due to questions about arena access, etc., and not program issues. But our interest level has dropped. We will continue to support all Baylor sports teams and attend as frequently as possible. Maybe Baylor WBB will be competitive among the elite teams again some day. I don't see that on the horizon.
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