Iowa St…currently getting throttled by Ok St. 66-35…start of the 4th

BUatbirth said:

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Iowa St…currently getting throttled by Ok St. 66-35…start of the 4th

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There was mentioned of 2 key ISU players out with injury...who else besides Addy Brown?

BUVA said:

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BUatbirth said:

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Iowa St…currently getting throttled by Ok St. 66-35…start of the 4th

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There was mentioned of 2 key ISU players out with injury...who else besides Addy Brown?

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Arianna Jackson, I believe.

Upsets in Top 25....#16 Ole Miss falls to unranked Georgia 82-59....#7 Kentucky downed by unranked MS State 61-59.

#9 TCU loses to #12 Ohio State 69-71.

BUVA said:

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#9 TCU loses to #12 Ohio State 69-71.

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TCU....20 turnovers to OSU's 10. Pretty much says it all right there. TCU only played 7.

TCU is another paper tiger. Not sure the B12 really has a 2nd weekend lock. BU might be the leagues best shot

Tech loses to BYU 73-61.

BYU blows out Tech in Provo. Tech scores late to cut the final margin to 12.

We beat BYU by 11; TCU beat them by 24. Both on the road.

Tech goes to SLC on Saturday, where we won and TCU lost.

#16 OU beats down #2 USCe in OT 94-82. OU coach throws F-bomb post game. Keep it classy.

That league is just stupid good. It really does suck for WBB that the conference lost OU and Texas

IowaBear said:

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That league is just stupid good. It really does suck for WBB that the conference lost OU and Texas

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Doesn't even matter, really.

It appears that UCONN is once again head and shoulders above everyone else - and will likely steam roll the field on the way to a second consecutive title.

Everyone else is just playing for second at this point - which isn't necessarily a bad thing for most programs.

Always tough to lose good teams from a conference. But UConn is in a very weak conference and dominates as ranked #1. All you have to do is schedule a few strong teams in out of conf games and SOS takes care of itself.

Football wise, Miami from ACC demonstrates a weak conference team can compete in even football. Where has the mighty SEC been the last THREE years in the national championship race in football, absent. The SEC does appear to be very good at wbb, but NIL seems to be leveling the field across the board. It will in wbb as well. Players care more about $$ than conference name tags. TCU recent success in wbb, coming out of nowhere, is case in point. Money shouts. Conference affiliation whispers. And 1 mega downer is all it takes to level the difference in conference money take, Texas Tech exhibit A.

UConn is beatable. Michigan played them tough. I doubt they steamroll teams from the E8 on. But yes, they're the favorite. Not sure that has much to do with pointing out how tough the SEC has become in WBB. (Wasn't always the case)

fredbear said:

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NIL seems to be leveling the field across the board. It will in wbb as well. Players care more about $$ than conference name tags. TCU recent success in wbb, coming out of nowhere, is case in point. Money shouts. Conference affiliation whispers. And 1 mega downer is all it takes to level the difference in conference money take, Texas Tech exhibit A.

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Yes, look what Tech did once they got a $1M pitcher...all the way to the WCWS final game from I don't think ever playing in a regional.

I am disappointed to a degree when we don't do as well as we have in the past, but it is tempered to some degree in realizing that NIL has made this a very uneven playing field. I can't criticize our WBB program as do some who only show up here when we lose when I see where they are doing very well given the resources they don't have to be able to buy the players we used to get on coaching and non-NIL recruiting alone. I think you have to temper your expectations, not to not be the best you can be, but in the realization that others are going to be able to buy the difference makers that result in a FF caliber team.

I think we all wish for a mega donor for all our sports, but when you look at things, there are much better ways for people to do much better things in this world than buy "amateur" championships. The college situation has become possibly more perverted than politics.

IowaBear said:

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UConn is beatable. Michigan played them tough. I doubt they steamroll teams from the E8 on. But yes, they're the favorite. Not sure that has much to do with pointing out how tough the SEC has become in WBB. (Wasn't always the case)

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The point I was making was that there's no reason to oooh and ahhh over the mighty SEC.

Because at the end of the day, the best team in the country will hail from a Non-SEC conference - The Big East.

Basically, everyone else will be in the same boat, in all likelihood.

Saying that conference is ridiculously tough is now considered oooh and ahhhing? Boy that's one hell of a goalpost move. What would you have liked me to say? That the SEC sucks? Sure, next time I'll lie to please you.
UConn looks the part. But until they actually win the title you're just speculating.

IowaBear said:

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Saying that conference is ridiculously tough is now considered oooh and ahhhing? Boy that's one hell of a goalpost move. What would you have liked me to say? That the SEC sucks? Sure, next time I'll lie to please you.
UConn looks the part. But until they actually win the title you're just speculating.

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Hmm. Looks like you and I are in the same boat!

You get accused of "oohing and aahing" over the SEC for saying you think they are ridiculously tough, and I get accused of having a meltdown because I said Duke absolutely deserved their preseason top 10 ranking. A PRESEASON ranking that came out before a single game was played and would be based on previous year's performance, returning production, coaching reputation and stability, etc. Not whether they deserved their preseason top ranking going forward, but whether they deserved it when we played them the very first game.

Because I strongly disagreed with you, you labeled me as having a meltdown….

Maybe that was projecting….

Your post…
Duke was never top 10 good!! ChiBear had a full on meltdown in the Duke game thread because I pointed that out prior to tip off. Pre season rankings mean nothing! Duke might actually be worse than I thought. U still said after the game it'll end up being a good win at seasons end. Not sure anymore.
Whatever you do, don't criticize Duke. Chibears will melt

No, I labeled you as having a meltdown because you constantly twisted my words to fit YOUR narrative. You said multiple times in that thread that I said Duke sucked.. not 1 time did those words come out of my mouth. I said they weren't a top 10 team and I was proven right all non con. I could care less that they're on a winning streak in the ACC which is as bad as the B12.
You and I will never be in the same boat
Bottom line is you had a full meltdown and cried like a little ***** because I didn't share your opinion that Duke was a top 10 team

Iowabear. You often have great insights. And no one engages with the forum more than you. All that is appreciated. But with multiple posters you feel a need always to be right, belittling the opinions of others. Instead of discussing and respecting, you escalate the intensity, degenerating the language into personal attacks or broad assumptions and accusations. You are obviously highly intelligent and capable of keen insights and analysis, but the way you package your ideas or positions is off putting. That is my opinion, and you may do with it what you will. Ignore it, own it and grow, or attack me. The forum is not a place to aggressively release personal frustrations. Respect all posters no matter how much you disagree with their ideas or opinions. Your intelligence and dedication earn you my respect, your need to attack and belittle, however, puts a damper on discussion. I feel like in a face to face discussions, your comments would be interpreted as less aggressive, but when there are no personal cues in communication (body language, tone, volume, etc.) only written words there are no context clues to soften the assuage the apparent harshness.

Before you make uneducated comments you should read how this argument with ChiBears started. Go read the Duke thread than get back to me. I respect everyone on here who respects me. I DONT respect those who twist and turn my words to fit a certain agenda. And that's exactly what happened in that thread. ChiBears didn't agree with my opinion so she chose to twist and turn everything I said. I respect everyone poster who shows me respect. Period, end of discussion. If ChiBears had respected me I would have respected her. It's funny you choose to blatantly ignore the disrespect AP shows everyone by essentially kissing the guys ass while attempting to lecture me.
If you don't like what I post or my thoughts turn on the ignore button Fred. Not going to lose any sleep over not engaging with you ChiBears or anyone else who can't have a conversation without twisting words.
Think about how regarded this engagement is. I made a comment about how tough the SEC is this year.. after a comment about OU knocking off SC. That's it, no where did I derail a thread. But carry on ranting Fred. It's what you do best

Did not rant. Will not rant. You chose to reject my insight. I accept that. I offered the cup, you could drink it or cast it to the ground. To the ground you sent it. You make the choice and live with the results. That is daily life for us all. I can only offer wisdom, the heeding is up to you.

I don't reject your insight/knowledge. I'm rejecting your attempt to lecture me on how to treat others. Especially when it appears you selectively choose who to lecture

#11 Kentucky suffers 3rd loss in a row to Georgia, 67-72.

Not that it matters this early, but may give us another ranking climb by one.

Tech spanked Utah last night 77-49. TT bench scored 44 points.

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It's a 5-horse race for the B12 title.



I looked through to compare schedules, West Virginia's appears to be the easiest remaining. And there's a good chance they beat us with our ball handling issues. If we can steal a win in Morgantown next Sunday that would be massive, especially considering we still have TCU twice

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Have you watched West Virginia? They have their own problems. They lost to TT and TCU because they couldn't hit the ocean from the beach when the game was there to take. We have troubles in Morgantown....always have, but Baylor should beat them.

Pretty much this. Fred and I were discussing this in another thread. Morgantown is always tough. And WV certainly has themselves a good coach. But they don't match up well at all with BU. They're incredibly short and the guard spots as well as the forward spots. They also don't shot particularly well from 3. They rely heavily on getting into the paint. When they aren't successful at doing so they bog down. Anything can happen but losing this one would be a tad upsetting because of the advantages BU will have

South Carolina dismantling undefeated Vanderbilt by 26 after 3 quarters.

This will leave UCONN as the only unbeaten.

The only team that could 'possibly' knock off UCONN this year would be the Gamecocks, imo.

And even then, it would take a near-perfect game to take the Huskies down.

Just don't see anyone else posing a serious threat come tournament time.

Oklahoma state lost to Colorado 79-65.

LTBear19 said:

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South Carolina dismantling undefeated Vanderbilt by 26 after 3 quarters.

This will leave UCONN as the only unbeaten.

The only team that could 'possibly' knock off UCONN this year would be the Gamecocks, imo.

And even then, it would take a near-perfect game to take the Huskies down.

Just don't see anyone else posing a serious threat come tournament time.

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Wonder when Fudd leaves that is the time for Geno. Many speculated nationally because of his age and health concerns from time to time he would retire when Beckers finished. Whenever it happens it will be interesting to see if UConn can avoid the yet to be avoided let down after the HOF coach is not longer there.

ScottyB_The_Baylor_King said:

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Oklahoma state lost to Colorado 79-65.

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Anything can happen in the mountains. Really good that we saved serve when TCU, TT and OSU did not and WVU is not through there either.

After Geno, I predict UConn will have the same landing as Tenn or Baylor. Relevant but no longer dominate. Will be hard to keep money flowing, and coaches salary will but 40 percent of what it is today. I Don't think Dawn or Vic or Kim, who have their own aging issue, would have any interest. So it will be a gamble.

fredbear said:

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After Geno, I predict UConn will have the same landing as Tenn or Baylor. Relevant but no longer dominate. Will be hard to keep money flowing, and coaches salary will but 40 percent of what it is today. I Don't think Dawn or Vic or Kim, who have their own aging issue, would have any interest. So it will be a gamble.

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If they withstand the change when it comes without a blip, they will be the first to do so. Just like most other places in WBB, players are attracted to the coach, not the school. barring just a rare few because of legacies or specific family situations. I have only visited Connecticut a couple of times, but I can't believe it has anything special for players to actually want to go there for the life experience over other comparable places.

It will also be interesting to see if the UConn fans have any understanding of the impact of a HOF coach leaving. Too many here still don't get that and expected and demanded the train to keep on rolling as it had because of Baylor's WBB history, which of course after the person who built that history left, means nothing. Of course today, money can recruit. Have no idea what type of money UConn might bring in to buy players. That is a difference between now and when the other legacy coaches retired or moved to a new school.