These two don't seem to like each other.

What's the deal?

A lot of coaches don't like other coaches that routinely kick their butts year in and year out, especially at "entitled" universities like UT and OU. I hope coaches like Aston and Coale along with whomever succeeds them continue to hate Mulkey for a lot of years to come.

Don't expect the relationship to improve.

Playing up to Baylor's level has become the standard in the Big XII and UT & OU clearly aren't up to it. We have owned them on their home courts for a decade, owned them in the conference tournaments and of course owned them in Waco. I like that the announcers at last night's game mentioned that Baylor hasn't lost in Austin since 2009. I also like that the game is being replayed on the LHN this week.

Giving them a glimmer of hope before slamming the door shut was a nice touch, IMO.

We have lived rent free in Karen's mind for 7 years and the landlord does not like her tenant.

Does anyone remember when the hate began?

I want to say, years ago, BU was way up on UT in Austin. Mulkey pulls everyone, puts in freshman for the final few minutes. Aston puts in all of her starters who put on a full court press, force turnovers, and start shooting threes. All of this in an effort ot make the score look better (closer) in the newspaper. Mulkey called her out on it.

Wasn't Karen an assistant at BU under Mulkey, or maybe I'm dreaming.

Valkyrie said:

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Wasn't Karen an assistant at BU under Mulkey, or maybe I'm dreaming.

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Its true

Valkyrie said:

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Wasn't Karen an assistant at BU under Mulkey, or maybe I'm dreaming.

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Yes, she was. I believe it was for just one season.

A couple of years ago after a beat down Kim said "there is not a new sheriff in town".

I thought she had two stints under Mulkey, one as associate HC. She left Baylor for a HC gig before going to UT.

Checked further and she was on Hogg's staff and did serve as associate HC under Mulkey for a year before leaving for Charlotte and then UNT before taking over at entitlement U.

chorne68 said:

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A couple of years ago after a beat down Kim said "there is not a new sheriff in town".

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Kim maintains that was directed at an Austin TX sports writer, not at the Texas Coach.

Johnny Bear said:

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Valkyrie said:

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Wasn't Karen an assistant at BU under Mulkey, or maybe I'm dreaming.

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Yes, she was. I believe it was for just one season.

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I believe she was also an assistant under Sonja Hogg in the mid nineties. Then she was an asst under Jody at UT. When Jody she retired UT hired Gail Goestenkors and Aston left to join Kim's staff.

Never a bride, always a......

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesheadlines/2015/03/09/baylors-kim-mulkey-upset-with-texas-karen-aston-for-strategy-at-end-of-big-12-title-game

I agree this is where it began.

Arkie4BU said:

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https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesheadlines/2015/03/09/baylors-kim-mulkey-upset-with-texas-karen-aston-for-strategy-at-end-of-big-12-title-game

I agree this is where it began.

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Who am I to question KM, but I thought instead of getting upset about that she should've just shrugged it off as a form of a back-handed compliment - as in my opponent obviously feels that even against our bench she has to have her starters in there to be competitive in a game that's already been decided - and let it go at that. Just not worth getting upset about.

BiPolarBear said:

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chorne68 said:

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A couple of years ago after a beat down Kim said "there is not a new sheriff in town".

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Kim maintains that was directed at an Austin TX sports writer, not at the Texas Coach.

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I thought after UT beat us in Waco, in the postgame news conference or somewhere Aston made a reference to "we might have a new sheriff in town" or something like that. Then when we beat them in Austin later that season, Kim made a slight reference toward that comment.

I could be completely wrong though.

BAYLOR vs. BIG 12 OPPONENTS IN THE MULKEY ERA
TCU: 14-0 (1.000)
Kansas: 28-2 (.933)
Kansas State: 32-4 (.889)
West Virginia: 14-2 (.875)
Iowa State: 26-4 (.867)
Oklahoma State: 35-6 (.854)
Texas Tech: 36-8 (.818)
Texas: 31-11 (.738)
Oklahoma: 24-18 (.571)
COMBINED: 240-55 (.814)

PAST 10 SEASONS
Kansas State: 23-0 (1.000)
TCU: 14-0 (1.000)
Texas Tech: 22-1 (.957)
Kansas: 18-1 (.947)
Oklahoma State: 20-2 (.909)
Iowa State: 16-2 (.889)
West Virginia: 14-2 (.875)
Texas: 19-3 (.864)
Oklahoma: 18-3 (.857)
COMBINED: 164-14 (.921)

TEAMS THAT LEFT THE BIG 12 (MULKEY ERA)
Missouri: 12-2 (.857)
Texas A&M: 25-5 (.833)
Colorado: 9-3 (.750)
Nebraska: 8-3 (.727)

TEAMS THAT LEFT THE BIG 12 (PAST 10 SEASONS)
Colorado: 3-0 (1.000)
Texas A&M: 8-1 (.889)
Missouri: 3-1 (.750)
Nebraska: 1-1 (.500)

Found this:
https://www.statesman.com/sports/20170222/bohls-texas-baylor-mulkey-aston-rivalries-look-to-be-full-throttle

New sheriff and $5 tickets....

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1. Thank you, Texas and Baylor women's basketball. You've given us an intriguing, colorful, new rivalry. Their sensational game Monday night at the Erwin Center reminded us how much we are entertained by a gritty, emotional hatefest between two terrific teams. Kim Mulkey coaches like her hair is on fire or like she wants to light referees' hair on fire and speaks the same way, chastising probably phantom critics. After her Lady Bears beat the Longhorns 70-67 in a thriller to gain sole place of first place in the Big 12, Mulkey wagged her finger at "everyone (who) wanted to say we were stale food, there's a new sheriff in town." Baylor still has the badge on its chest, but Texas coach Karen Aston was not amused and said, "I'm well aware that we've got to talk about sheriffs and all kinds of crap, but I thought we played really hard and we just didn't win," Aston said. Translation: Aston was boiling over the loss and Mulkey's response in complaining about Aston's players flopping to get calls. Plus, Mulkey was smug in bragging on the atmosphere but talking about $5 tickets and saying, "You don't give away something. You've got a good product on the floor, you don't sell it cheap. I guess you got to do what you need to do to get 'em in the stands." Keep it up, Kim. And keep restocking your lineup, Karen, who will add two all-star recruits to have nine yes, nine McDonald's All-Americans on next year's roster. It would help if talented freshman Joyner Holmes would find her way to the basket instead of settling for jump shots that she rarely sinks. The Lady Bears made a living in the paint with 36 points there. Yes, Baylor's still the sheriff, but Texas may be deputized soon. When's Round 3?

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February 1, 2014

AVERAGE MARGIN OF VICTORY (PAST 10 SEASONS) - Against Current Big 12 schools
+27.2 - Kansas
+25.3 - Kansas State
+25.2 - TCU
+24.6 - Texas Tech
+20.6 - Iowa State
+17.6 - Oklahoma State
+16.3 - Oklahoma
+14.1 - West Virginia
+11.8 - Texas

Texasjeremy said:

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BAYLOR vs. BIG 12 OPPONENTS IN THE MULKEY ERA
TCU: 14-0 (1.000)
Kansas: 28-2 (.933)
Kansas State: 32-4 (.889)
West Virginia: 14-2 (.875)
Iowa State: 26-4 (.867)
Oklahoma State: 35-6 (.854)
Texas Tech: 36-8 (.818)
Texas: 31-11 (.738)
Oklahoma: 24-18 (.571)
COMBINED: 240-55 (.814)

PAST 10 SEASONS
Kansas State: 23-0 (1.000)
TCU: 14-0 (1.000)
Texas Tech: 22-1 (.957)
Kansas: 18-1 (.947)
Oklahoma State: 20-2 (.909)
Iowa State: 16-2 (.889)
West Virginia: 14-2 (.875)
Texas: 19-3 (.864)
Oklahoma: 18-3 (.857)
COMBINED: 163-14 (.921)

TEAMS THAT LEFT THE BIG 12 (MULKEY ERA)
Missouri: 12-2 (.857)
Texas A&M: 25-5 (.833)
Colorado: 9-3 (.750)
Nebraska: 8-3 (.727)

TEAMS THAT LEFT THE BIG 12 (PAST 10 SEASONS)
Colorado: 3-0 (1.000)
Texas A&M: 8-1 (.889)
Missouri: 3-1 (.750)
Nebraska: 1-1 (.500)

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Total domination

Valkyrie said:

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Wasn't Karen an assistant at BU under Mulkey, or maybe I'm dreaming.

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Had to of begun then

There's no house big enough for the 2 of them to live in together

March 31, 2012

"Texas may have found its successor.

Baylor coach Kim Mulkey confirmed with the Austin America-Statesman that North Texas head coach Karen Aston will take over the Texas program from Gail Goestenkors who resigned after Texas' first round bow out of the NCAA tournament.

Aston served as an assistant coach under Mulkey and is said to have texted her the news.

"This has to be her dream job," Mulkey told the paper.

Aston is considered an extremely able recruiter, and proved herself as one while working under Jody Conradt fom 1998-2006. She went 15-16 (7-9 Sun Belt) with the North Texas Mean Green this past season. A Daily Texan source from within the UT athletic department said there has yet to be a decision made.

The UT Board of Regents will meet Monday to officially discuss the future of the position."

- Garrett Callahan, Daily Texan

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Does anyone remember when the hate began?

I want to say, years ago, BU was way up on UT in Austin. Mulkey pulls everyone, puts in freshman for the final few minutes. Aston puts in all of her starters who put on a full court press, force turnovers, and start shooting threes. All of this in an effort ot make the score look better (closer) in the newspaper. Mulkey called her out on it.

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Cherry Cola has done the same thing at least two times as I recall. Once here in Waco I remember how she came up off the bench like she had coil springs under her and hastened her starters to get back in when she saw Kim putting in the 2nd string.

Cherry Cola LOL?? Where'd that come from?

https://www.hookem.com/columns/golden-texas-elevated-loss-top-ranked-baylor/

Golden: Texas women should be elevated after tight loss to top-ranked Baylor

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https://www.hookem.com/columns/golden-texas-elevated-loss-top-ranked-baylor/

Golden: Texas women should be elevated after tight loss to top-ranked Baylor

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Who wants to tell Cedric that Cox returns next year?

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WacoKelly83 said:

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https://www.hookem.com/columns/golden-texas-elevated-loss-top-ranked-baylor/

Golden: Texas women should be elevated after tight loss to top-ranked Baylor

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Who wants to tell Cedric that Cox returns next year?

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Don't anyone say anything to him. Let's see if he notices....

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Found this:
https://www.statesman.com/sports/20170222/bohls-texas-baylor-mulkey-aston-rivalries-look-to-be-full-throttle

New sheriff and $5 tickets....

Quote:

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1. Thank you, Texas and Baylor women's basketball. You've given us an intriguing, colorful, new rivalry. Their sensational game Monday night at the Erwin Center reminded us how much we are entertained by a gritty, emotional hatefest between two terrific teams. Kim Mulkey coaches like her hair is on fire or like she wants to light referees' hair on fire and speaks the same way, chastising probably phantom critics. After her Lady Bears beat the Longhorns 70-67 in a thriller to gain sole place of first place in the Big 12, Mulkey wagged her finger at "everyone (who) wanted to say we were stale food, there's a new sheriff in town." Baylor still has the badge on its chest, but Texas coach Karen Aston was not amused and said, "I'm well aware that we've got to talk about sheriffs and all kinds of crap, but I thought we played really hard and we just didn't win," Aston said. Translation: Aston was boiling over the loss and Mulkey's response in complaining about Aston's players flopping to get calls. Plus, Mulkey was smug in bragging on the atmosphere but talking about $5 tickets and saying, "You don't give away something. You've got a good product on the floor, you don't sell it cheap. I guess you got to do what you need to do to get 'em in the stands." Keep it up, Kim. And keep restocking your lineup, Karen, who will add two all-star recruits to have nine yes, nine McDonald's All-Americans on next year's roster. It would help if talented freshman Joyner Holmes would find her way to the basket instead of settling for jump shots that she rarely sinks. The Lady Bears made a living in the paint with 36 points there. Yes, Baylor's still the sheriff, but Texas may be deputized soon. When's Round 3?

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Simply put: They are both highly competitive. Stuff happens.

Yes, and was not appreciative of what she learned from Kim.

Kim really values loyalty

Running the press and subbing a player at 1.9 seconds to go and down by 6 doesn't do much to mend the fence. It's senseless. I think KA would like to get on Kim's nerves. Instead, it just makes KA look bad...again.

On the pregame radio interview yesterday as I recall Kim was asked if the UT offense looks similar to hers in some ways. She said Karen worked under her for a year and it certainly does, "but I don't know if she'll admit it."

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Running the press and subbing a player at 1.9 seconds to go and down by 6 doesn't do much to mend the fence. It's senseless. I think KA would like to get on Kim's nerves. Instead, it just makes KA look bad...again.

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Unnecessarily pressing in a lost game doesn't do anything but put the players on the court at risk of injury. We've had players throughout Kim's years who have had knee injuries in high school, while at Baylor, or both. I'm sure most college coaches have had similar experiences. If this nonsense Aston pulls at the end of games ever resulted in an injury, the post-game handshake make turn into an impromptu MMA match.

I used to see them eat lunch together every once in a while in downtown Waco when she was an assistant here.