Proud Boys leader admits plan to storm Capitol, will testify against others

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Proud Boys leader admits plan to storm Capitol, will testify against others
Charles Donohoe pleaded guilty to conspiracy, acknowledging an attempt to stop congressional confirmation of the electoral college vote
A North Carolina man who was one of the leaders of the far-right Proud Boys as they assaulted the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, pleaded guilty Friday to two felony counts with a minimum sentence of nearly six years in prison, but agreed to cooperate against his co-defendants in hopes of getting a lighter sentence.

Court records filed Friday show he has already provided numerous insights into the group's plans and their intention to disrupt the congressional electoral vote confirmation.
Charles Donohoe, 34, of Kernersville, N.C., admitted to both organizing the pro-Trump attack on Congress and assaulting law enforcement officers. Donohoe is the first charged among six of the Proud Boys' leaders, including longtime chairman Enrique Tarrio, to admit to both organizing an attack on Congress and assaulting law enforcement officers.
Tarrio pleaded not guilty earlier this week to charges of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and six other felonies. He has been ordered held in jail until trial along with six other defendants.
Those other defendants include Donohoe, who has been jailed since March of last year. He pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and assaulting police officers.
In December 2020, according to court documents filed Friday, Tarrio appointed Donohue as one of the members of the "Ministry of Self Defense," a leadership group within the Proud Boys making preparations for Jan. 6.
In a newly filed statement of offense, prosecutors said that "Donohoe understood that the purpose of the rally in Washington, D.C., on January 6, 2021, was to stop the certification of the Electoral College vote." The "MOSD" leadership was broken into a three-person "marketing" council, to recruit more members, and an "operations" group. Donohoe was part of the marketing group, the statement of offense says, and it soon expanded to at least 65 members.
As early as Jan. 4, prosecutors said, "Donohoe was aware that members of MOSD leadership were discussing the possibility of storming the Capitol. Donohoe believed that storming the Capitol would achieve the group's goal of stopping the government from carrying out the transfer of presidential power. Donohoe understood that storming the Capitol would be illegal."
Donohoe hadn't planned to be in D.C. on Jan. 6, the statement of offense says. But after Tarrio was arrested on Jan. 4, 2021, for burning a Black Lives Matter banner stolen from a D.C. church, Donohoe decided to travel to Washington because he "believed that Tarrio's arrest could create a leadership void for the MOSD," according to the filing, which is also signed by Donohoe.
On the morning of Jan. 6, the Proud Boys marched away from the Ellipse before President Donald Trump began his speech, and did not return. Instead, they went to the Capitol shortly after 10 a.m., the statement of offense says, and Donohoe posted that his group numbered "200-300 PBs." Co-defendants Ethan Nordean and Joseph Biggs mustered the group, the statement says, and "Donohoe understood that Nordean and Biggs were searching for an opportunity to storm the Capitol."
By 1 p.m., the Proud Boys were being instructed in messages to "Push inside!" Donohoe reposted the message to other group leaders. Donohoe admitted throwing two water bottles at police trying to prevent the mob's advance. At 1:37 p.m., Donohoe took a picture of co-defendant Dominic Pezzola holding a riot shield that had been snatched from police.
Donohoe then found another Proud Boy who "initiated an altercation at the front of the crowd," the statement says. "Donohoe pushed forward to advance up the concrete stairs toward the Capitol. The crowd overwhelmed law enforcement who were attempting to stop their advance." About 140 police officers were injured during the onslaught, and five people died in the attack or immediate aftermath.
Donohoe is the second Proud Boy to agree to testify against his co-defendants. In January, Matthew Greene of Syracuse, N.Y., admitted coordinating with other New York-based members of the extremist group at the front of the Capitol mob and pleaded guilty to felony conspiracy, also hoping for a reduced sentence in exchange for his cooperation. As a result of their deals, no sentencing dates were set for Donohoe or Greene, pending the outcome of their testimony in both trials and grand jury hearings.


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It's a shame the National Guard wasn't there to help confront such brilliant planners. There is never a large, open gathering of thousands in an outdoor area without the "professional" rabble rousers around.

Any instigators of the riot at the Capitol deserve lots of time in the can.

Any boneheaded followers into the Capitol need to do penance at the least for being a cow in a herd and hurting conservative causes across the country for years to come.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

It's a shame the National Guard wasn't there to help confront such brilliant planners. There is never a large, open gathering of thousands in an outdoor area without the "professional" rabble rousers around.

Any instigators of the riot at the Capitol deserve lots of time in the can.

Any boneheaded followers into the Capitol need to do penance at the least for being a cow in a herd and hurting conservative causes across the country for years to come.
um, are you paying attention? A GOP mayor for Ok city after unseating the Dem
Incumbent. School boards are getting sweeping vote outs. The conservative movement is as strong as ever
Sam Lowry
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Conservative and liberal causes are both getting weakened by radicalism, and each side wrongly assumes the other's loss is its gain. In fact they are in a race to irrelevancy.
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4th and Inches said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

It's a shame the National Guard wasn't there to help confront such brilliant planners. There is never a large, open gathering of thousands in an outdoor area without the "professional" rabble rousers around.

Any instigators of the riot at the Capitol deserve lots of time in the can.

Any boneheaded followers into the Capitol need to do penance at the least for being a cow in a herd and hurting conservative causes across the country for years to come.
The conservative movement is as strong as ever
There is no conservative movement .

Only millions of lonely, debt encumbered , over weight, illiterates hoping the government provides for all their needs .

Biden has failed to deliver...so the Dems are scared.

Just means more 'voter harvesting ' come November .
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This news should make Roger Stone pretty nervous, if he gets swept up in this the current admin won't be corruptly pulling his ass out of the fire like the last one did. The Proud Boys were Stone's personal bodyguard team leading up to and on 1/6, it strains credulity to think he didn't have some hand in planning/coordinating what they were up to...or that he wasn't doing it for his boss Donald.
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So now they were acting at the behest of Trump's wishes and to think otherwise strains credulity?
4th and Inches
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Wangchung said:

So now they were acting at the behest of Trump's wishes and to think otherwise strains credulity?
the FBI said there was no link to Trump so obviously Trump should be worried
HuMcK
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Yeah, I'm sure they stuck their necks out there for Trump's exclusive benefit on the exact day and in the exact way as what Don Jr laid out to Mark Meadows just on a whim. Not like Roger Stone literally owes his freedom to Trump or anything.
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Yes, because it's either done on a whim or at the personal behest of Trump. Absolutely no other possibility is possible.
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4th and Inches said:

Wangchung said:

So now they were acting at the behest of Trump's wishes and to think otherwise strains credulity?
the FBI said there was no link to Trump so obviously Trump should be worried
What statement are you referring to?
4th and Inches
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Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Wangchung said:

So now they were acting at the behest of Trump's wishes and to think otherwise strains credulity?
the FBI said there was no link to Trump so obviously Trump should be worried
What statement are you referring to?
the one where the FBI said they found no direct link to Trump related to their initial investigation into J6..

If you need help, cheat off your neighbor
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4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Wangchung said:

So now they were acting at the behest of Trump's wishes and to think otherwise strains credulity?
the FBI said there was no link to Trump so obviously Trump should be worried
What statement are you referring to?
the one where the FBI said they found no direct link to Trump related to their initial investigation into J6..

If you need help, cheat off your neighbor
Link?
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Osodecentx said:

Oops!

Proud Boys leader admits plan to storm Capitol, will testify against others
Charles Donohoe pleaded guilty to conspiracy, acknowledging an attempt to stop congressional confirmation of the electoral college vote
A North Carolina man who was one of the leaders of the far-right Proud Boys as they assaulted the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, pleaded guilty Friday to two felony counts with a minimum sentence of nearly six years in prison, but agreed to cooperate against his co-defendants in hopes of getting a lighter sentence.

Court records filed Friday show he has already provided numerous insights into the group's plans and their intention to disrupt the congressional electoral vote confirmation.
Charles Donohoe, 34, of Kernersville, N.C., admitted to both organizing the pro-Trump attack on Congress and assaulting law enforcement officers. Donohoe is the first charged among six of the Proud Boys' leaders, including longtime chairman Enrique Tarrio, to admit to both organizing an attack on Congress and assaulting law enforcement officers.
Tarrio pleaded not guilty earlier this week to charges of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and six other felonies. He has been ordered held in jail until trial along with six other defendants.
Those other defendants include Donohoe, who has been jailed since March of last year. He pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and assaulting police officers.
In December 2020, according to court documents filed Friday, Tarrio appointed Donohue as one of the members of the "Ministry of Self Defense," a leadership group within the Proud Boys making preparations for Jan. 6.
In a newly filed statement of offense, prosecutors said that "Donohoe understood that the purpose of the rally in Washington, D.C., on January 6, 2021, was to stop the certification of the Electoral College vote." The "MOSD" leadership was broken into a three-person "marketing" council, to recruit more members, and an "operations" group. Donohoe was part of the marketing group, the statement of offense says, and it soon expanded to at least 65 members.
As early as Jan. 4, prosecutors said, "Donohoe was aware that members of MOSD leadership were discussing the possibility of storming the Capitol. Donohoe believed that storming the Capitol would achieve the group's goal of stopping the government from carrying out the transfer of presidential power. Donohoe understood that storming the Capitol would be illegal."
Donohoe hadn't planned to be in D.C. on Jan. 6, the statement of offense says. But after Tarrio was arrested on Jan. 4, 2021, for burning a Black Lives Matter banner stolen from a D.C. church, Donohoe decided to travel to Washington because he "believed that Tarrio's arrest could create a leadership void for the MOSD," according to the filing, which is also signed by Donohoe.
On the morning of Jan. 6, the Proud Boys marched away from the Ellipse before President Donald Trump began his speech, and did not return. Instead, they went to the Capitol shortly after 10 a.m., the statement of offense says, and Donohoe posted that his group numbered "200-300 PBs." Co-defendants Ethan Nordean and Joseph Biggs mustered the group, the statement says, and "Donohoe understood that Nordean and Biggs were searching for an opportunity to storm the Capitol."
By 1 p.m., the Proud Boys were being instructed in messages to "Push inside!" Donohoe reposted the message to other group leaders. Donohoe admitted throwing two water bottles at police trying to prevent the mob's advance. At 1:37 p.m., Donohoe took a picture of co-defendant Dominic Pezzola holding a riot shield that had been snatched from police.
Donohoe then found another Proud Boy who "initiated an altercation at the front of the crowd," the statement says. "Donohoe pushed forward to advance up the concrete stairs toward the Capitol. The crowd overwhelmed law enforcement who were attempting to stop their advance." About 140 police officers were injured during the onslaught, and five people died in the attack or immediate aftermath.
Donohoe is the second Proud Boy to agree to testify against his co-defendants. In January, Matthew Greene of Syracuse, N.Y., admitted coordinating with other New York-based members of the extremist group at the front of the Capitol mob and pleaded guilty to felony conspiracy, also hoping for a reduced sentence in exchange for his cooperation. As a result of their deals, no sentencing dates were set for Donohoe or Greene, pending the outcome of their testimony in both trials and grand jury hearings.





Lock him up. No sympathy or tolerance for this type of behavior. The peaceful transfer of power is what prevents us from being a banana republic.
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Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Wangchung said:

So now they were acting at the behest of Trump's wishes and to think otherwise strains credulity?
the FBI said there was no link to Trump so obviously Trump should be worried
What statement are you referring to?
the one where the FBI said they found no direct link to Trump related to their initial investigation into J6..

If you need help, cheat off your neighbor
Link?
can't cheat off my paper, teacher!! He cheatin!
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I call BS. Last I heard the investigation is still ongoing.
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FBi has previously stated this.. you deny it?

Garlands DOJ is an arm of the Biden admin doing political hit jobs. You deny it?

Recent report:

Fed investigators tried to find a possible connection between Trump and efforts to halt Congress' counting of Electoral College votes, according to court records and interviews with defense lawyers, several defendants told investigators they had no links to Trump.

"During the interviews, the government was focused on establishing an organized conspiracy between defendant, President Donald J. Trump, and allies of the former president, to disrupt the Joint Session of Congress on January 6," wrote Bilal Essayli, Straka's attorney, who didn't respond to calls seeking comment. "Defendant answered all questions truthfully and denied the existence of any such plot."

Ever expanding scope in order to prevent their opponents from gaining power. Washington is a cesspool and the smell is getting stronger.
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RMF5630 said:

Osodecentx said:

Oops!

Proud Boys leader admits plan to storm Capitol, will testify against others
Charles Donohoe pleaded guilty to conspiracy, acknowledging an attempt to stop congressional confirmation of the electoral college vote
A North Carolina man who was one of the leaders of the far-right Proud Boys as they assaulted the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, pleaded guilty Friday to two felony counts with a minimum sentence of nearly six years in prison, but agreed to cooperate against his co-defendants in hopes of getting a lighter sentence.

Court records filed Friday show he has already provided numerous insights into the group's plans and their intention to disrupt the congressional electoral vote confirmation.
Charles Donohoe, 34, of Kernersville, N.C., admitted to both organizing the pro-Trump attack on Congress and assaulting law enforcement officers. Donohoe is the first charged among six of the Proud Boys' leaders, including longtime chairman Enrique Tarrio, to admit to both organizing an attack on Congress and assaulting law enforcement officers.
Tarrio pleaded not guilty earlier this week to charges of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and six other felonies. He has been ordered held in jail until trial along with six other defendants.
Those other defendants include Donohoe, who has been jailed since March of last year. He pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and assaulting police officers.
In December 2020, according to court documents filed Friday, Tarrio appointed Donohue as one of the members of the "Ministry of Self Defense," a leadership group within the Proud Boys making preparations for Jan. 6.
In a newly filed statement of offense, prosecutors said that "Donohoe understood that the purpose of the rally in Washington, D.C., on January 6, 2021, was to stop the certification of the Electoral College vote." The "MOSD" leadership was broken into a three-person "marketing" council, to recruit more members, and an "operations" group. Donohoe was part of the marketing group, the statement of offense says, and it soon expanded to at least 65 members.
As early as Jan. 4, prosecutors said, "Donohoe was aware that members of MOSD leadership were discussing the possibility of storming the Capitol. Donohoe believed that storming the Capitol would achieve the group's goal of stopping the government from carrying out the transfer of presidential power. Donohoe understood that storming the Capitol would be illegal."
Donohoe hadn't planned to be in D.C. on Jan. 6, the statement of offense says. But after Tarrio was arrested on Jan. 4, 2021, for burning a Black Lives Matter banner stolen from a D.C. church, Donohoe decided to travel to Washington because he "believed that Tarrio's arrest could create a leadership void for the MOSD," according to the filing, which is also signed by Donohoe.
On the morning of Jan. 6, the Proud Boys marched away from the Ellipse before President Donald Trump began his speech, and did not return. Instead, they went to the Capitol shortly after 10 a.m., the statement of offense says, and Donohoe posted that his group numbered "200-300 PBs." Co-defendants Ethan Nordean and Joseph Biggs mustered the group, the statement says, and "Donohoe understood that Nordean and Biggs were searching for an opportunity to storm the Capitol."
By 1 p.m., the Proud Boys were being instructed in messages to "Push inside!" Donohoe reposted the message to other group leaders. Donohoe admitted throwing two water bottles at police trying to prevent the mob's advance. At 1:37 p.m., Donohoe took a picture of co-defendant Dominic Pezzola holding a riot shield that had been snatched from police.
Donohoe then found another Proud Boy who "initiated an altercation at the front of the crowd," the statement says. "Donohoe pushed forward to advance up the concrete stairs toward the Capitol. The crowd overwhelmed law enforcement who were attempting to stop their advance." About 140 police officers were injured during the onslaught, and five people died in the attack or immediate aftermath.
Donohoe is the second Proud Boy to agree to testify against his co-defendants. In January, Matthew Greene of Syracuse, N.Y., admitted coordinating with other New York-based members of the extremist group at the front of the Capitol mob and pleaded guilty to felony conspiracy, also hoping for a reduced sentence in exchange for his cooperation. As a result of their deals, no sentencing dates were set for Donohoe or Greene, pending the outcome of their testimony in both trials and grand jury hearings.





Lock him up. No sympathy or tolerance for this type of behavior. The peaceful transfer of power is what prevents us from being a banana republic.


Agreed
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4th and Inches said:

FBi has previously stated this.. you deny it?

Garlands DOJ is an arm of the Biden admin doing political hit jobs. You deny it?

Recent report:

Fed investigators tried to find a possible connection between Trump and efforts to halt Congress' counting of Electoral College votes, according to court records and interviews with defense lawyers, several defendants told investigators they had no links to Trump.

"During the interviews, the government was focused on establishing an organized conspiracy between defendant, President Donald J. Trump, and allies of the former president, to disrupt the Joint Session of Congress on January 6," wrote Bilal Essayli, Straka's attorney, who didn't respond to calls seeking comment. "Defendant answered all questions truthfully and denied the existence of any such plot."

Ever expanding scope in order to prevent their opponents from gaining power. Washington is a cesspool and the smell is getting stronger.

Come on. A denial from a defendant isn't the same as the FBI saying there was no link.
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Come on, do your own research.

Answer my question, has it been previously reported that there is no link?

Is Garland politizing the DOJ to target Bidens opponents?

Simple yes or no lawyer man..

Do you feel it is appropriate for them to do so?

They found no link so they expand and press to see if they can find anything.. its a witch hunt
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Why did you hide the source for the OP's article?

Odd behavior, that.
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WaPo. Hmmmm
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Oldbear83 said:

WaPo. Hmmmm
gossip rag
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4th and Inches said:

Oldbear83 said:

WaPo. Hmmmm
gossip rag
Read the full article. It's not quite what is pretends.

I agree that there are a very few individuals who committed violence against Police on January 6.

They deserve every minute of their sentence.

But as I observed in another thread, around 95% of the cases resolved so far are for single, non-violent offenses based on protest without a permit.

The simple fact is that the overwhelming majority of people who went to DC on January 6th protested peacefully and lawfully, and the overwhelming majority of those who broke the law committed no violent offense, and the only firearm fired that day was by a Capitol police officer who killed an unarmed woman half his size, and without warning.

The 'sedition' and 'insurrection' fairy tales are just not supported by the facts. A few idiots committed violence, they do not represent or speak for anyone but their own small numbers.

They are less of a threat to America than BLM, then and now.
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Come on, do your own research.

Answer my question, has it been previously reported that there is no link?

Is Garland politizing the DOJ to target Bidens opponents?

Simple yes or no lawyer man..

Do you feel it is appropriate for them to do so?

They found no link so they expand and press to see if they can find anything.. its a witch hunt
I don't know. I have looked. That's why I'm asking you. Where's the report that you're talking about?
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Oldbear83 said:

Why did you hide the source for the OP's article?

Odd behavior, that.
Sorry
my fault
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4th and Inches said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

It's a shame the National Guard wasn't there to help confront such brilliant planners. There is never a large, open gathering of thousands in an outdoor area without the "professional" rabble rousers around.

Any instigators of the riot at the Capitol deserve lots of time in the can.

Any boneheaded followers into the Capitol need to do penance at the least for being a cow in a herd and hurting conservative causes across the country for years to come.
um, are you paying attention? A GOP mayor for Ok city after unseating the Dem
Incumbent. School boards are getting sweeping vote outs. The conservative movement is as strong as ever
You can thank democrats for that. Certainly not the Jan. 6 hotheads. Jan. 6 just gave leftists and democrats fodder for years to come.
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HuMcK said:

This news should make Roger Stone pretty nervous, if he gets swept up in this the current admin won't be corruptly pulling his ass out of the fire like the last one did. The Proud Boys were Stone's personal bodyguard team leading up to and on 1/6, it strains credulity to think he didn't have some hand in planning/coordinating what they were up to...or that he wasn't doing it for his boss Donald.

Proud Boys leadership seemed to think they had a direct line to Trump through some unnamed individual, I wonder who that could be...
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HuMcK said:

HuMcK said:

This news should make Roger Stone pretty nervous, if he gets swept up in this the current admin won't be corruptly pulling his ass out of the fire like the last one did. The Proud Boys were Stone's personal bodyguard team leading up to and on 1/6, it strains credulity to think he didn't have some hand in planning/coordinating what they were up to...or that he wasn't doing it for his boss Donald.

Proud Boys leadership seemed to think they had a direct line to Trump through some unnamed individual, I wonder who that could be...

implores and yet, he didnt.. he also released a video telling them to go home but it was pulled from social media within 5 minutes of it being uploaded.

All roads dont lead to Trump just because somebody wants it to..

In other news, NY grand jury found even less than the NCAA did against Baylor football and was dismissed
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Sam Lowry said:

Conservative and liberal causes are both getting weakened by radicalism, and each side wrongly assumes the other's loss is its gain. In fact they are in a race to irrelevancy.
except that the infinitessimally small Proud Boys are not a part of the GOP coalition, while BLM and Antifa and all the CRT & Queer Theory folks are openly extolled on the left. BLM is crowdfunded by ACTblue (funding from which does filter down to Antifa), and VPOTUS proudly raised money to bail out Antifa thugs in 2020.

Despite what we hear from alphabet media, GOP does not have a radicalism problem remotely approaching the multi-headed progressive hydra devouring the Democrat party.
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whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Conservative and liberal causes are both getting weakened by radicalism, and each side wrongly assumes the other's loss is its gain. In fact they are in a race to irrelevancy.
except that the infinitessimally small Proud Boys are not a part of the GOP coalition, while BLM and Antifa and all the CRT & Queer Theory folks are openly extolled on the left. BLM is crowdfunded by ACTblue (funding from which does filter down to Antifa), and VPOTUS proudly raised money to bail out Antifa thugs in 2020.

Despite what we hear from alphabet media, GOP does not have a radicalism problem remotely approaching the multi-headed progressive hydra devouring the Democrat party.
Oh, look...denialism! Never thought I'd see that from the plandemic crowd again.
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Dude should be executed as a traitor.
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With respect to those who were trying the prevent the certification vote, it seems that they were really stupid and incompetent. They raised enough hell to be charged with felonies but didn't employ a strategy or the weapons necessary to actually change anything but a small delay in the timing of the vote.

Even if they had taken over the Capitol building, it wouldn't affect the outcome of the election. Congress could have just convened elsewhere or waited a few days until FBI swat teams had cleared the building. The only way a coup could work in America is if the President was able to obtain the support of broad swaths of the military. Not just verbal allegiance but a willingness by the military to kill their fellow Americans. I simply don't see this being possible in America despite the heated divisions that exist. I think the real agitators (not the loud but peaceful Trump fans) were a pathetic incompetent bunch of dreamers and fools. I don't like the use of the word insurrection because it gives these losers too much credit. As a Trump voter, I have nothing but disgust for them. And profound disappointment in Trump's rhetoric after the election. All the worst aspects of Trump's personality came out in force after losing to a weak ticket like Biden/Harris.
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Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Conservative and liberal causes are both getting weakened by radicalism, and each side wrongly assumes the other's loss is its gain. In fact they are in a race to irrelevancy.
except that the infinitessimally small Proud Boys are not a part of the GOP coalition, while BLM and Antifa and all the CRT & Queer Theory folks are openly extolled on the left. BLM is crowdfunded by ACTblue (funding from which does filter down to Antifa), and VPOTUS proudly raised money to bail out Antifa thugs in 2020.

Despite what we hear from alphabet media, GOP does not have a radicalism problem remotely approaching the multi-headed progressive hydra devouring the Democrat party.
Oh, look...denialism! Never thought I'd see that from the plandemic crowd again.
So sad to see that Sam's verbal Cholera has escalated.
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Proud 1992 Alum said:

As a Trump voter, I have nothing but disgust for them. And profound disappointment in Trump's rhetoric after the election. All the worst aspects of Trump's personality came out in force after losing to a weak ticket like Biden/Harris.
Agreed

The vast majority of the protestors involved on January 6th were incredibly naive .


Trump seems to have lost all sense in the weeks prior to....and immediately after the election .
Suspect he knew what was coming and his ego basically blew a few circuits .

Old age affects everyone....not just the 'other guy'.

Hope Trump fades away....but that seems more and more unlikely .
Dems just got to be praying Trump stays in the race and destroys whats left of the Republican party .
 
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