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This is getting ridiculous. We hit $5.50 or even $5 the discretionary economy shuts down. Biden has to be one of the worst Presidents.
Even if this is a strategy to get off fossil field, the Biden Administration is managing this backwards. You have to have an option for people to migrate.
Interesting, but Biden had nothing to do with it.
It's global issue, spurred by recovery from COVID. Gas is high globally.
Gas would be just as high if Trump were still president.
I've also heard zero practical solutions from Republicans other than blaming Biden for it.
The only good thing is that it will make more switch to electric cars, which is good for everybody.
Switching to electric cars is NOT good for everybody. I have already seen news reports for over a month from at least 3 states about possible rolling blackouts because of heat and too many people running their AC high.
Now add in thousands more cars being charged and the blackouts will increase.
Funny, I was at a Auto Conference and spoke with some people from power companies. No one spoke to them about how the grid could handle an influx of EVs/ Couple of hundred thousand nationwide is one thing, total switch over at scale is another! I swear that "scale" is the most ignored word, people have no idea of the scale of the transportation industry. You think once a dynamic mass of EVs hit the road that it will be cheap to operate? Electric will become the new gas and we will burn more carbon in LNG power plants to support these "clean" cars. Musk is the P.T. Barnum, Steve Jobs of our time, great salesman!
95% coal.... which is much dirtier than gas engines.
Topics like these are too complex for the vast majority of people to understand.
Electric cars will cause the demand for natural gas to skyrocket. Nat Gas being +460% higher in cost means WAY higher fertilizer and food prices already.
There's so many variables at play.
Do you think 95% of our electricity comes from coal?
About 60% of electricity in the US is derived from fossil fuels. Nuclear and solar/wind account for a portion as well.
I am excited to see if the windmills work as good in August when the wind does not blow as they do in a fairly serious winter storm when they ice up.
Windmill and Solar aren't reliable.
I am with you Doc. Most have no idea what this entails and the externalities that will come from it.
Wind, Solar, Geothermal, Tidal, Rivers all have a place in the energy puzzle. But, non nor the combination can handle the whole load reliably. They are great in certain locations and should be used, but we cannot just shut off fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are movable, you can ship fossil fuels and earth resources where needed. The others are limited by external variable. It is like toll roads. Tolls work great to fund infrastructure in certain locations, but they will fail in others.
It is curious to me how hard this concept of needing ALL of the above is to get not only in energy but other areas, I see elected officials every day push 1 solution to highly complex, fluid problems. Frustrating. No one is saying don't build windmills for use in certain areas or use solar. But don't cover the whole nation in solar panels to get the same amount of energy 1/20th the amount of LNG will generate.
Well said. It's been decades of everyone trying to envision this green energy society and a lot of morons talking about half truths they know nothing about it. Too many people are convinced that an impossible future is possible.
It may be possible, but it will take numerous energy sources, cooperation we have not seen, inventions of both energy sources, vehicles, machinery and education we do not have and several generations to get there.
There is a reason the internal combustion engine changed the world and spurred the industrial revolution. Fossil fuels are so versatile, mobile and efficient that it allowed it do happen. You think people weren't looking before finding crude in PA?
IF climate change is truly going to result in actionable changes, not informational, we need to focus on that to protect infrastructure rather than this change society stuff. Changing behavior does not work.
Example:
Informational Change - 3 inches of water rise over 50 years in vulnerable locations
Actionable Change - 3 feet of water rise over 50 years in vulnerable locations