"Then ring the bells loud and deep. God is not dead nor doth he sleep"
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Waco1947 said:JXL said:Waco1947 said:Forgiving sins is not supernatural. Forgiving is sons is a spiritual gift from God.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Your arguments are circular
Premise the supernatural "signs" of the Bible are physically true
Premise they are supernatural and beyond ordinary life
Conclusion They are true because says they are true, not science.
Consequently the secular needs to suspend their knowledge of science and accept this reasoning.
You are the one arguing that a guy who lives 2000 years ago can forgive your sins. That is supernatural and beyond ordinary life. You cannot be a follower of a Christ who forgives sins while denying that God intervenes in history.
Once again, How did this guy who lived and died 2000 years ago "save you from your sin" without supernatural power? What would have happened had he not done so?
Ask ypour pastor. I'm sure he will back you up. Maybe a Sunday School lesson on it.
Thank you and yes the Holy Land was a deeply spiritual experience in three placesLIB,MR BEARS said:JXL said:
Any thoughts, Waco1947?
Great question…. regardless of the thread.
Actually, 47 would be nuts to come on the board right now as he is in the Holy Land. To even give this board a second thought seems like a waste of time
Waco1947 said:JXL said:Waco1947 said:Forgiving sins is not supernatural. Forgiving is sons is a spiritual gift from God.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Your arguments are circular
Premise the supernatural "signs" of the Bible are physically true
Premise they are supernatural and beyond ordinary life
Conclusion They are true because says they are true, not science.
Consequently the secular needs to suspend their knowledge of science and accept this reasoning.
You are the one arguing that a guy who lives 2000 years ago can forgive your sins. That is supernatural and beyond ordinary life. You cannot be a follower of a Christ who forgives sins while denying that God intervenes in history.
Once again, How did this guy who lived and died 2000 years ago "save you from your sin" without supernatural power? What would have happened had he not done so?
Ask ypour pastor. I'm sure he will back you up. Maybe a Sunday School lesson on it.